MrRodgers
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Ive posted this enough times you should have it memorized by now
Even these two clowns had to admit that we did great things for Iraq
(Until their policies took over)
Barack Obama:
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'We're Leaving Behind a Sovereign, Stable and Self-Reliant Iraq'
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/12/14/remarks-president-and-first-lady-end-war-iraq
Joe Biden:
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“I am very optimistic about Iraq. I think it’s gonna be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re gonna see 90,000 American troops come marchin’ home by the end of the summer. You’re gonna see a stable government in Iraq that is actually movin’ toward a representative government. I’ve been there 17 times now. I go about every two months, three months. I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society. It’s impressed me. I’ve been impressed, how they have been deciding to use the political process, rather than guns, to settle their differences.”
Then Joe rode off on a unicorn down a road made of rainbows.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/12/watch-joe-biden-call-iraq-one-of-the-great-achievements-of-this-administration/
Iraq was a complete fucking disaster before Obama was even put in office. That it still is, is testimony to the success of the neocons from the beginning...Arabs/Muslim killing Arabs/Muslim and getting Obama, to try and tell the world...is to blame for their mess.
Even as we type, the right denigrates Obama for the nuke deal with Iran while the MIC licks their for-profit lips seeing a new cold war in the middle east. War, continues to be a racket...the gift that keeps on giving.
Connect the dots kinkroids. Presidents have little to do with the real direction of this country. They all do what they need to do...to stay alive.
No, as I have proven, Barack Obama and Joe Biden both admitted that when they took over, Iraq was shaping up to be a really great success.
Too bad they fucked the pooch as they say, let it go to hell after all the sacrifice and money that was invested. Really a shame
They were flat out wrong, probably knew as much and as likely, were told what to say about Iraq and the complicit media and the 'ignorant' people...bought it.
Ten myths about Iraq...2008. HERE It's a bit long but quite a read and I abbreviated this link.
1. Iraqis are safer because of Bush’s War.
In fact, conditions of insecurity have helped created both an internal and external refugee problem:
At least 4.2 million Iraqis were displaced. These included 2.2 million who were displaced within Iraq and some 2 million refugees, mostly in Syria (around 1.4 million) and Jordan (around half a million).
2. Large numbers of Iraqis in exile abroad have returned.
In fact, no great number have returned, and more Iraqis may still be leaving to Syria than returning.
3. Iraqis are materially better off because of Bush’s war.
In fact, A million Iraqis are “food insecure” and another 6 million need UN food rations to survive. Oxfam estimated in summer, 2007, that 28% of Iraqi children are malnourished.
4. The Bush administration scored a major victory with its Status of Forces Agreement.
In fact, The Iraqis forced on Bush an agreement that the US would withdraw combat troops from Iraqi cities by July, 2009,and would completely withdraw from the Country by the end of 2011. The Bush administration had wanted 58 long-term bases, and the authority to arrest Iraqis at will and to launch military operations unilaterally.
5. Minorities in Iraq are safer since Bush’s invasion.
In fact, there have in 2008 been significant attacks on and displacement of Iraqi Christians from Mosul. In early January of 2008, guerrillas bombed churches in Mosul, wounding a number of persons. More recently, some 13,000 Christians have had to flee Mosul because of violence.
6. The sole explanation for the fall in the monthly death rate for Iraqi civilians was the troop excalation or surge of 30,000 extra US troops in 2007. In fact, troop levels had been that high before without major effect.
The US military did good counter-insurgency in 2007. The major reason for the fall in the death toll, however, was that the Shiites won the war for Baghdad, ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands of Sunnis from the capital, and turning it into a city with a Shiite majority of 75 to 80 percent.
7. John McCain alleged that if the US left Iraq, it would be promptly taken over by al-Qaeda.
In fact, there are few followers of Usamah Bin Laden in Iraq. The fundamentalist extremists, if that is what McCain meant, are not supported by most Sunni Arabs. They are supported by no Shiites (60% of Iraq) or Kurds (20% of Iraq), and are hated by Iran, Syria, Turkey, and Jordan, who would never allow such a takeover.
8. The Iraq War made the world safer from terrorism. In fact, Iraq has become a major training ground for extremists and is implicated in the major bombings in Madrid, London, and Glasgow.
9. Bush went to war in Iraq because he was given bad intelligence about Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction capabilities.
In fact, the State Department’s Intelligence & Research (I & R) division cast doubt on the alarmist WMD stories that Bush/Cheney put about. The CIA refused to sign off on the inclusion of the Niger uranium lie in the State of the Union address, which made Bush source it to the British MI6 instead.
10. Douglas Feith and other Neoconservatives didn’t really want a war with Iraq (!). Yeah, that was why they demanded war on Iraq with their 1996 white paper for Bibi Netanyahu and again in their 1998 Project for a New American Century letter to Clinton, where they explicitly called for military action.
The Neoconservatives are notorious liars and by the time they get through with rewriting history, they will be a combination of Gandhi and Mother Teresa and the Iraq War will be Bill Clinton’s fault.
< Message edited by MrRodgers -- 4/15/2015 8:22:09 PM >
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