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RE: MOM! - 4/30/2015 8:21:35 AM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		Butch would you believe me if I said I wish I could see the humor in that situation like so called "normal" people do.....


I don't,I really don't

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RE: MOM! - 4/30/2015 10:09:58 AM   
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Butch would you believe me if I said I wish I could see the humor in that situation like so called "normal" people do.....


I don't,I really don't


When I was that boy's age, and he is a boy not a man by any means, once in a while my mom would slap me. I'd just laugh. She knew as well as I did that she couldn't physically hurt me. That mom was not hurting that boy either. That boy reacted because his mother was filled with riotous indignation. Look at the look on his face at the end of the video. That boy was going along with a mob and thought everything was cool and fun. Then mom showed up. It was a perfect attitude adjustment.

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RE: MOM! - 4/30/2015 2:38:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps.....but I'm not talking about the boys reaction,Butch asked me about mine.

My personal history made my stomach do flip flops at that sight

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RE: MOM! - 4/30/2015 3:00:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn .... Am I the only one on collarspace that had a great childhood?

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RE: MOM! - 4/30/2015 3:42:04 PM   
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Damn .... Am I the only one on collarspace that had a great childhood?

Butch

Overall, mine wasn't bad. The hell I went through that I described to Mike really had very little, IF anything, to do with physical stuff. It was more...in trying to describe it accurately...indirect emotional garbage. I'm a softie in a lot of ways but even then, I had the smarts and/or the maturity to look at the culprits and think "hey...you did this. I didn't and neither did my brother. Wallow in it but if you bring us into it, you'll be even sorrier than you are now". But when I look at the good times and what I learned...younger, pristine years and older, 'hell years', it works out to a plus.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 7:37:34 AM   
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Faux Nuze fair and balanced Baltimore reporting.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 7:42:39 AM   
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http://imgur.com/NJN5664

Faux Nuze fair and balanced Baltimore reporting.

Why don't you note the rest of the story, dancer?

a. This is a local affiliate, NOT FOX News

b. The local affiliate issued an apology once they caught their error

Nice try at a smear, though

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:18:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oh their misrepresentations are endless. thats why they are known as Faux Nuze.

Nice try at lying and pretending they are honest if pathetically imbecilic.


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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:19:23 AM   
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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:28:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow jester. Haven't had your meds yet this morning. Even for you this is stretching thread drift. Why don't you start your own thread. Then we all won't have to read around you.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:46:00 AM   
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We will see.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 10:21:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		As you all can see, you are allowed to insult in Feisty sections, but some insults reach into darker places that cannot be allowed. I am sorry that it took as long as it did to clean, but this is not the only thing I have to do when I get here.

Moderator10 was about to take things in hand when I showed up and got to it faster than they could. Had M10 removed the thread, which is often what they will do when I am not here and they don't wish to disturb me because I sleep so little, you wouldn't see why we would do some things. Many times you don't see it. There is always a reason we do what we do and if you have any questions you can direct them to me in cmail.

Enjoy!

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 10:32:37 AM   
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As you all can see, you are allowed to insult in Feisty sections, but some insults reach into darker places that cannot be allowed. I am sorry that it took as long as it did to clean, but this is not the only thing I have to do when I get here.

Moderator10 was about to take things in hand when I showed up and got to it faster than they could. Had M10 removed the thread, which is often what they will do when I am not here and they don't wish to disturb me because I sleep so little, you wouldn't see why we would do some things. Many times you don't see it. There is always a reason we do what we do and if you have any questions you can direct them to me in cmail.

Enjoy!

To bad people can't act like adults, the rules in this section are loose enough that adults shouldn't cause you any work at all.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 2:14:34 PM   
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Butch would you believe me if I said I wish I could see the humor in that situation like so called "normal" people do.....


I don't,I really don't

I think if you had a bad abusive childhood then you have a different perspective about this incident.. but imo, the teenager in this incident is not complaining, he understands why his mom did what she did as he knows he was doing wrong, he doesnt seem to hold resentment against her at all, from what i can gather.. so if he doesnt see it as abuse then I take my view from that.. jmo..

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 7:24:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		All good tj....and if you look at my first post here I came right out and said that given the situation I could not fault the mother.

What I mildly objected to,and it's gotten worse since on fox news,is the idea that she is somehow mother of the year material.

If she had been such a good mother she would have been able to tell her sixteen year old son to march his ass out of that situation.

I take issue with the fact that in order to make him heed her it was necessary to smack him upside the head repeatedly.

Greta Sundstrom had her on tonight,the banner at the bottom of the scree actually hailed her as "Mother of the Year"....I call bullshit on that.

A mother that has gained her sons respect thru non violent parenting tells her son to walk away and they both walk to the car,minus the whacks....just my opinion

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:21:00 PM   
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All good tj....and if you look at my first post here I came right out and said that given the situation I could not fault the mother.

What I mildly objected to,and it's gotten worse since on fox news,is the idea that she is somehow mother of the year material.

If she had been such a good mother she would have been able to tell her sixteen year old son to march his ass out of that situation.

I take issue with the fact that in order to make him heed her it was necessary to smack him upside the head repeatedly.

Greta Sundstrom had her on tonight,the banner at the bottom of the scree actually hailed her as "Mother of the Year"....I call bullshit on that.

A mother that has gained her sons respect thru non violent parenting tells her son to walk away and they both walk to the car,minus the whacks....just my opinion

And a mother who has gained her son's disrespect and animosity because of her non-violent parenting which...because of what else he saw and learned from others while growing up...left him thinking she was weak or afraid or didn't know how to stand up to him when she should have...would tell him to leave and he'd refuse. Because really...what's she going to do?

I know that you think every child raised in a home where there was NEVER any striking grows up right...they don't. Just as every child who grows up in a home where there was only the occasional Swat still doesn't turn out right.

But most times...in both households...they do.

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 8:30:44 PM   
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All good tj....and if you look at my first post here I came right out and said that given the situation I could not fault the mother.

What I mildly objected to,and it's gotten worse since on fox news,is the idea that she is somehow mother of the year material.

If she had been such a good mother she would have been able to tell her sixteen year old son to march his ass out of that situation.

I take issue with the fact that in order to make him heed her it was necessary to smack him upside the head repeatedly.

Greta Sundstrom had her on tonight,the banner at the bottom of the scree actually hailed her as "Mother of the Year"....I call bullshit on that.

A mother that has gained her sons respect thru non violent parenting tells her son to walk away and they both walk to the car,minus the whacks....just my opinion

And a mother who has gained her son's disrespect and animosity because of her non-violent parenting which...because of what else he saw and learned from others while growing up...left him thinking she was weak or afraid or didn't know how to stand up to him when she should have...would tell him to leave and he'd refuse. Because really...what's she going to do?

I know that you think every child raised in a home where there was NEVER any striking grows up right...they don't. Just as every child who grows up in a home where there was only the occasional Swat still doesn't turn out right.

But most times...in both households...they do.

I didn't say any of that ...you did.

Why do folks seem so intent on picking a fight with me over this...I'm not all that incensed over the incident,I simply object to the idea that she is the model we should hold up on high as something to aspire to.
What's so fucking hard about that for you to understand ?
What's so wrong about thinking in an IDEAL situation she would not have needed to repeatedly strike her child.

Seriously dude,what you malfunction ?

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 9:04:17 PM   
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All good tj....and if you look at my first post here I came right out and said that given the situation I could not fault the mother.

What I mildly objected to,and it's gotten worse since on fox news,is the idea that she is somehow mother of the year material.

If she had been such a good mother she would have been able to tell her sixteen year old son to march his ass out of that situation.

I take issue with the fact that in order to make him heed her it was necessary to smack him upside the head repeatedly.

Greta Sundstrom had her on tonight,the banner at the bottom of the scree actually hailed her as "Mother of the Year"....I call bullshit on that.

A mother that has gained her sons respect thru non violent parenting tells her son to walk away and they both walk to the car,minus the whacks....just my opinion

And a mother who has gained her son's disrespect and animosity because of her non-violent parenting which...because of what else he saw and learned from others while growing up...left him thinking she was weak or afraid or didn't know how to stand up to him when she should have...would tell him to leave and he'd refuse. Because really...what's she going to do?

I know that you think every child raised in a home where there was NEVER any striking grows up right...they don't. Just as every child who grows up in a home where there was only the occasional Swat still doesn't turn out right.

But most times...in both households...they do.

I didn't say any of that ...you did.

Why do folks seem so intent on picking a fight with me over this...I'm not all that incensed over the incident,I simply object to the idea that she is the model we should hold up on high as something to aspire to.
What's so fucking hard about that for you to understand ?
What's so wrong about thinking in an IDEAL situation she would not have needed to repeatedly strike her child.

Seriously dude,what you malfunction ?
But you see Mike, when you make a statement such as "If she had been such a good mother she would have been able to tell her sixteen year old son to march his ass out of that situation.". What you seem to be saying is...and correct me if I'm wrong...that this IS the best way to handle this and that if she could have done so, she'd have been a better mother.

You don't see that as derogatory of anyone else who doesn't see it your way?

Yes...in an IDEAL world, none of us would have ever had to Swat our children...And we'd have married the right partpartner the first time around...And the right job would have miraculously opened up for us. But it isn't an ideal world nor was it an ideal situation. What I see is a mother who moved her child in a way that she knew would move him.


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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 9:29:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay you asked me to correct you if you were wrong,so I will....what I'm saying is not anything about BEST.....but better.

Or are you going to argue that achieving the same result without the need to strike is not BETTER than needing to resort to striking ?

Simple question,better than ....not BEST

See the difference ?
You practically concede it when you mention an IDEAL world,yet you keep coming back at me about it,I'm really at a loss as to how to be more clearer

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RE: MOM! - 5/1/2015 9:33:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		By the way,how about we respond to what each of us say....rather than what one of us thinks the other "seems" to be saying

Just an idea,and I've probably,in the past been as guilty as anyone else of doing this.....new leaf though.

Someone ,in another thread said I seem to be more reasonable of late,I'm not going to add any more apologies but I am going to try to live up to that description.I understand I've ticked off numerous folks numerous times.
Nothing I can do about that save try not to do it so often going forward,

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