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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


• The USA ranks 29nth in life expectancy

• The USA's infant mortality rate is 2x that of Germany

• The United States has the highest teenage birthrate in the developed world

• Among adults, seven out of every 1,000 are in prison, more than five times the rate of incarceration in most other rich democracies

• Pick almost any measure of social health and cohesion over the last four decades or so, and you will find that the United States took a wrong turn along the way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/29/business/economy/income-inequality-is-costing-the-us-on-social-issues.html?emc=eta1&_r=0

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

from 87 to 79 is quite a difference if its you dying.

And for those 79 years one needs a living wage.

Free market communism is indeed an insanity promulgated by the rabid rightwing.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

from 87 to 79 is quite a difference if its you dying.

And for those 79 years one needs a living wage.

Free market communism is indeed an insanity promulgated by the rabid rightwing.

I wrote "many'

ONE country is at 87, so thats very disingenuous on your part

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

and as we go down the line, at least 14 countries are out of the year or two you claim.

very disingenuous and actual lying propaganda on your part.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats greatly misleading, which you shouldnt expect anything different from the far left NYT propagandists

EXAMPLE, the longevity claim. Many of the countries with "greater longevity" fall within a year or two of ours. Put another way, theres not a real significant difference, as in everyone is living twenty or thirty years longer than us

Its just not so

And the implied claim that everything on the list is because we have yet to convert to communism is insane

Lifestyle choices are a greater issue than government failing to redistribute wealth. Smoking, over eating, failing to be a good parent...

Just more of the same propaganda we have been hearing for decades

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Low birth weight infants are not counted against the "live birth" statistics for many countries reporting low infant mortality rates.

According to the way statistics are calculated in Canada, Germany, and Austria, a premature baby weighing <500g is not considered a living child.

But in the U.S., such very low birth weight babies are considered live births. The mortality rate of such babies - considered "unsalvageable" outside of the U.S. and therefore never alive - is extraordinarily high; up to 869 per 1,000 in the first month of life alone. This skews U.S. infant mortality statistics.

[...]

Some of the countries reporting infant mortality rates lower than the U.S. classify babies as "stillborn" if they survive less than 24 hours whether or not such babies breathe, move, or have a beating heart at birth.

Forty percent of all infant deaths occur in the first 24 hours of life.

In the United States, all infants who show signs of life at birth (take a breath, move voluntarily, have a heartbeat) are considered alive.

If a child in Hong Kong or Japan is born alive but dies within the first 24 hours of birth, he or she is reported as a "miscarriage" and does not affect the country's reported infant mortality rates.

[...]

Too short to count?

In Switzerland and other parts of Europe, a baby born who is less than 30 centimeters long is not counted as a live birth. Therefore, unlike in the U.S., such high-risk infants cannot affect Swiss infant mortality rates.

Efforts to salvage these tiny babies reflect this classification. Since 2000, 42 of the world's 52 surviving babies weighing less than 400g (0.9 lbs.) were born in the United States.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If people want a living wage then enforce the immigration laws, for one thing. The current flood of cheap labor undercutting even the poorest Americans is a REAL issue

There are other things that can help

Teach children to pay attention in school, dont do heroine... Avoid the thug life as glamorized in the media, and work their tails off

Government seizing peoples' property / wealth doesnt help, it just makes everyone poor as seen in the USSR, Cuba, China etc etc etc

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


FR

Another example of how the new York Times is parroting misleading statistic (propaganda):

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Low birth weight infants are not counted against the "live birth" statistics for many countries reporting low infant mortality rates.

According to the way statistics are calculated in Canada, Germany, and Austria, a premature baby weighing <500g is not considered a living child.

But in the U.S., such very low birth weight babies are considered live births. The mortality rate of such babies - considered "unsalvageable" outside of the U.S. and therefore never alive - is extraordinarily high; up to 869 per 1,000 in the first month of life alone. This skews U.S. infant mortality statistics.

[...]

Some of the countries reporting infant mortality rates lower than the U.S. classify babies as "stillborn" if they survive less than 24 hours whether or not such babies breathe, move, or have a beating heart at birth.

Forty percent of all infant deaths occur in the first 24 hours of life.

In the United States, all infants who show signs of life at birth (take a breath, move voluntarily, have a heartbeat) are considered alive.

If a child in Hong Kong or Japan is born alive but dies within the first 24 hours of birth, he or she is reported as a "miscarriage" and does not affect the country's reported infant mortality rates.

[...]

Too short to count?

In Switzerland and other parts of Europe, a baby born who is less than 30 centimeters long is not counted as a live birth. Therefore, unlike in the U.S., such high-risk infants cannot affect Swiss infant mortality rates.

Efforts to salvage these tiny babies reflect this classification. Since 2000, 42 of the world's 52 surviving babies weighing less than 400g (0.9 lbs.) were born in the United States.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Leftists love far left biased sources such as the New York Times and MSNBC, PBS, the BBC for their "news"...

Other though, prefer more balanced sources for news and information

To each their own

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


If people want a living wage then enforce the immigration laws, for one thing. The current flood of cheap labor undercutting even the poorest Americans is a REAL issue

There are other things that can help

Teach children to pay attention in school, dont do heroine... Avoid the thug life as glamorized in the media, and work their tails off

Government seizing peoples' property / wealth doesnt help, it just makes everyone poor as seen in the USSR, Cuba, China etc etc etc

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


Oh I agree and the trouble is, nobody can find any on the right or any that support the right's policy prescriptions.