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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 5:37:00 PM   
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They're just worried she night now switch parties and run as a repub...becoming ever so much more qualified everyday.

Can't have that, they have their own brand of hypocrisy and pandering.


Pretty off the wall statement. But I'll say now what I've always said. Democrats always get themselves in trouble when they act and vote liberal. Republicans also get themselves in trouble when they act and vote liberal.

I think you are on to something. I've always said that liberalism was born and now has elected a black dem lib twice, because of the failures of conservatives. Notice I said 'conservatives' not conservatism.

You see I come from a Michigan conservative repub family going way back (ok, not that far back) but one who voted for Geo. Romney for gov. and for whom whose mother actually worked.

Soon as the conservative movement added to their strengths of a cold war constituency, the corporatism constituency, they started to lose many voters. Liberals were fed great ammunition and elected LBJ the great whore until he tired of playing ball on Vietnam.

Then with Nixon even though the most liberal repub to be elec. pres, his scummery did the trick. So we get Carter, a good man with whipsawed policies and then Reagan...an instant neocon upon being shot.

Now we wade through and battle out of the mutually greasy weeds of BI-partisan hypocrisy, corruption, hatred and venality. So, I just come here to give everybody shit.


You know, every now and then you and I agree. I held my nose and voted for "W" because I thought Id get two Supreme Court judges from him, and did. I won't vote for President if Jeb is the nominee. After the first 100 days Newt really started to look like s tax and spend liberal and after him, the Republicans lost all credibility nationally. Nixon instituted wage and price freezes and the EPA.

There are a lot of people voting who haven't even seen a real conservative. I don't consider myself a Republican because they lost me a long time ago. But, I stay with the party just so I can have a say in what they should do, to whatever little affect that has.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:09:34 PM   
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Where are Christians beheading gays?
Take a nap come back when you are better.
And then tell us why it is OK for Hillary to ignore the law.


Goggle the name 'Mathew Shepard'.....

See if your bullshit holds up to reality after that. Then Google 'KKK black churches'. After that, try 'Salem Witch Trials' for extra reading! How about how those 'Southern Christians' treated their Northern Christians during the American Civil War; Google 'Andersonville Prison and Civil War'.






The Salem Witch Trials were about gays?

The Civil War had a gay element?

Andersonville and gays?

Mathew Sheppard was a drug deal gone bad.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:25:06 PM   
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That religion has much in the way of problems towards people it has disagreed. If it were not for law enforcement at all levels, the shit we currently see ISIS doing (which doesn't have a law enforcement keeping it in check) would be the stuff Christians do towards others here in the States

From me? Really, Joether? Show me one...ONE...organized, recognized religious group in the U.S. calling for the beheading of Muslims...Buddhists...Jews.

Show me ONE organized, recognized religious group calling for stoning of unfaithful women, torture and killing of homosexuals, honor killing for our daughters.

One group, Joether...just one. If you seriously think it is ONLY the law holding back Christians...

Over three/fourths of the U.S. population identifies as Christian.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180347/three-quarters-americans-identify-christian.aspx

Are you telling me the only thing holding back this 3/4 of the the population is the law?

You truly are a vacuous wonder. Please note...there's NO other liberals jumping to agree with you.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:31:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Joether doesn't recognize the Enlightenment and reformation, as much as he spews history. He still fears the wrack and thumbscrews.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:37:06 PM   
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An yet I could say that of every since current and future GOP/TP to run for public office. In fact what has all those Republicans and Tea Parties done for the nation in the last five months (since controlling Congress) that is of use to all Americans?


Passed a budget.






Pretty much building a bi-Partisan agenda.

No crime was committed, I know you hate Bush and anyone to the right of Trotsky but that is not impeachable.
You still haven't said how this makes it ok for Hillary to ignore the law.

All you have is the OJ defense.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:54:45 PM   
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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 6:55:58 PM   
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I'm 85% sure Hunter is a Sanity Sock.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:08:08 PM   
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I'm 85% sure Hunter is a Sanity Sock.


If he were, one of them would be banned if they posted on the same thread or were causing more trouble than is normally found in the Feisty area.

Yes, I do check these things out.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:21:20 PM   
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I'm 85% sure Hunter is a Sanity Sock.


Hum, both Sanity and I provide links and interesting things to discuss. Neither of us attack others with different views. At least not until the other has shown some ill intent and idiocy.

Cloudboy, I see you're grasp of reality and facts is up to par tonight. What is it you've come to whine about tonight?

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:25:30 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:27:39 PM   
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Laws change all the time, or do you choose to forget that?

She didn't promise to get the law changed, she promised to ignore it, clearly you choose to forget that.


Not that I don't realize that Hilary is full of crap. I assure you I do.

But just when did she promise to "ignore the law"? The last speech that I heard, she said she would go as far as she could "within the law."

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:31:40 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:35:36 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/07/the-progressive-movement-and-the-transformation-of-american-politics


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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:38:14 PM   
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Laws change all the time, or do you choose to forget that?

She didn't promise to get the law changed, she promised to ignore it, clearly you choose to forget that.


Not that I don't realize that Hilary is full of crap. I assure you I do.

But just when did she promise to "ignore the law"? The last speech that I heard, she said she would go as far as she could "within the law."


During his early term of Presidency, Obama said publicly, 22 times, that it would be illigal for him to unilaterally change immigration enforcement. Then he did. When he did, he stated he went as far as he could legally go. Now, Hillary is saying she'll go further.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:42:49 PM   
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Laws change all the time, or do you choose to forget that?

She didn't promise to get the law changed, she promised to ignore it, clearly you choose to forget that.


Not that I don't realize that Hilary is full of crap. I assure you I do.

But just when did she promise to "ignore the law"? The last speech that I heard, she said she would go as far as she could "within the law."

By Obama's own assessment he exceeded the law and she promised to go further.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:45:21 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/07/the-progressive-movement-and-the-transformation-of-american-politics




Looks like a lot of nonsense. It takes a couple quotes... Adds lots of opinion about mysterious unnamed "Progressives" (A Godless, constitution-mocking group)...

Typical Heritage Foundation propaganda. Ripe for The Blaze :)

So, Baltimore is full of Communists, and horrible people who don't believe in freedom?

I thought it was full of economically depressed areas and a bunch of thugs destroying property. I don't mind saying this. Please enlighten me?

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:48:26 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://allenbwest.com/2015/04/the-dirty-little-secret-no-one-wants-to-admit-about-baltimore/

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:52:09 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-session-preview-20150113-story.html#page=1

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:54:06 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/07/the-progressive-movement-and-the-transformation-of-american-politics




Looks like a lot of nonsense. It takes a couple quotes... Adds lots of opinion about mysterious unnamed "Progressives" (A Godless, constitution-mocking group)...

Typical Heritage Foundation propaganda. Ripe for The Blaze :)

So, Baltimore is full of Communists, and horrible people who don't believe in freedom?

I thought it was full of economically depressed areas and a bunch of thugs destroying property. I don't mind saying this. Please enlighten me?


There you go. Exactly correct. After 60 years of progressive governance it is full of economically depressed areas and a bunch of thugs destroying property. You got it.

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RE: Hillarys' 180 On Illegal Immigration - 5/7/2015 7:56:05 PM   
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Some people look to the future and want to advance the nation forward to secure our future, others live in the past embittered with the changes they see happening in the world. You're clearly in the latter camp, and you stand to experience repeated rounds of disappointment as you get older.


Cloudboy, communism and progressivism is old and has failed time and again all over the world. Take...for instance...Baltimore as an example. So, please tell me who continuing that political application into the future will secure anything?

And, ah, tell me how you coming on and insulting people contributes to a discussion of Hillary doing a 180 on immigration. Or, was it your intent to just pop in, insult people and pop back out?



How is Baltimore, an example of communism and progressivism? (And for that matter, what exactly IS progressivism?) Is that the boogie man that Glenn Beck keeps talking about?


http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/07/the-progressive-movement-and-the-transformation-of-american-politics




Looks like a lot of nonsense. It takes a couple quotes... Adds lots of opinion about mysterious unnamed "Progressives" (A Godless, constitution-mocking group)...

Typical Heritage Foundation propaganda. Ripe for The Blaze :)

So, Baltimore is full of Communists, and horrible people who don't believe in freedom?

I thought it was full of economically depressed areas and a bunch of thugs destroying property. I don't mind saying this. Please enlighten me?


Plenty of quotes from progressives like Dewey. Ridiculing it doesn't make it less true.

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