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joether -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:03:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA And that's related to CO2 how? Come on Joe, you're just bloviating again. Ok...I'm going to treat you like a fucking moron here....just so you can keep up! That post came in two parts. One was in black letters, the other in blue. I'm going to assume you can tell the difference between BLACK and BLUE. The first part was answering a question I gave to you before on something you stated original. That is what we call a 'reply' to someone else. So the person who got us of the thread originally; would be you! If your going to bitch, make sure you bitch at the correct individual.... Now then, I asked a question. I knew you didnt have the answer. But I dropped enough clues that if someone where to do some RESEARCH, they would have found. You. Dont. Research. Understanding CO2 levels does require some research. So there is the linkage there.... Now the second part, was part of the original topic. An it ties the first part into the topic quite well. That there exists an organization that is not truthful or honest when it comes to journalism. That there are many individuals that listen to it and believe they are getting good quality information. Not realizing that one is better off without viewing any news coverage than listening to that particular 'news' agency. Understand?

joether -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:09:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: what sets fox news apart from all the other stations out there is that it is indeed fair and balanced Wow! Are there lots of other people who believe that out there, Bounty? Fox News Channel routinely bests the other channels, so, yes, there seems to be a lot of other people out there that believe that. Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they are fair or balanced. I do believe they are the "most fair" and "most balanced" media outlet, but it definitely has a conservative bend to it. As far as the "opinion" staff, it is decidedly rightist and not balanced. I would put viewing/listening to NPR as better quality than FOX 'news' any day of the week. Yes, the material is dry and boring; but very much correct. Each news outlet does get things wrong from time to time. NPR is no exception. However, NPR does not push political viewpoints that are as closely aligned to a major political party as FOX does.

Aylee -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:14:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic "If any one says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen" (1 Jn. 4:20). I find it so ironic when non-Christians are "criticizing" Christians for "not behaving" as the Bible "dictates" and they do so while being nastier than the Christians that they are "criticizing". Then there is this "strange" idea that Christians are sheep who will "bow down" to them if they "quote" the Bible. They seem to imagine that Christians don't think about what Scripture says so they'll blindly listen to what they want them to do/think. They often don't realize that Christians often deal with other Christians who do take "verses" out of context (along with ignoring other verses). So since Christians often disagree with other Christians, why do they imagine that Christians will follow their "take" from Scripture? there is that...and there is also that I have absolutely no idea why that verse was quoted in response to my wondering about good stewardship of the earth and the potential for compromising conservative principles. To be snarky and prove that Christians are not being Christian-y enough.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:14:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA And that's related to CO2 how? Come on Joe, you're just bloviating again. Ok...I'm going to treat you like a fucking moron here....just so you can keep up! That post came in two parts. One was in black letters, the other in blue. I'm going to assume you can tell the difference between BLACK and BLUE. The first part was answering a question I gave to you before on something you stated original. That is what we call a 'reply' to someone else. So the person who got us of the thread originally; would be you! If your going to bitch, make sure you bitch at the correct individual.... Now then, I asked a question. I knew you didnt have the answer. But I dropped enough clues that if someone where to do some RESEARCH, they would have found. You. Dont. Research. Understanding CO2 levels does require some research. So there is the linkage there.... Now the second part, was part of the original topic. An it ties the first part into the topic quite well. That there exists an organization that is not truthful or honest when it comes to journalism. That there are many individuals that listen to it and believe they are getting good quality information. Not realizing that one is better off without viewing any news coverage than listening to that particular 'news' agency. Understand? Oh I understand. I even understand what you think you did. But what you did do was bloviate just as you are now. Since you've researched CO2, please add something enlightening to the CO2 thread. You haven't yet you know.

Aylee -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:21:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:24:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA And that's related to CO2 how? Come on Joe, you're just bloviating again. Ok...I'm going to treat you like a fucking moron here....just so you can keep up! Understanding CO2 levels does require some research. Come on Joe. Give this fucking moron the benefit of your CO2 research. Are you going to tell me, for instance the part of Al Gore's idiotic movie he received an Oscar for depicted CO2 completely back assward. I already know that. Can you tell me why? Oh wait, since I already know that, don't tell me that. Tell me something that you know that has come from your research that I don't know.

Aylee -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:27:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee You have totally moved beyond twit to complete and utter pretentious asshole with that statement. I suggest that you perform an indecent act of anatomical impossibility upon yourself; and thereafter suggest you might best be served by such for in that instance at least you would enjoy a parity of inexperience with your partner such that any incompetence and amateurish bearing on your part might be alleviated. An unlimited search of the entire vast gulf of space, and all the miserable creatures that dwell within, would never yield intellectual ineptitude exceeding that of your own. Truly, if feeble-mindedness was a cornerstone of some unspeakably perverse civilization, you would be crowned as its lord-emperor and forever clumsily worshiped by drooling, knuckle-dragging, unwashed degenerates. blah blah blah blah blah blah... ...You cant even answer the central question. That should show anyone here who disregards reality more. Just a few more insults from someone that cant handle facts, truth, and evidence. Trying to attack me in any way you can. Unfortunately for your 'Junior High School' mentality, I've moved beyond that. This is a BDSM website. Its assumed that your: A) An adult, B ) In full control of your senses and emotions, C ) That you are about to be mature. By what you have wrote here, none of those are true. How important is the SotU address? Not very. Dog and pony show. I would love it if we could go back to just sending it in a letter to congress. That does not excuse your assholishness.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:29:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me. Aylee, government funds things like medical and science research. Strictly speaking, I agree it's not constitutional and not the job of a limited government. I do find that I enjoy the benefits of the medical research. And, even, a lot of the medicine and household things we enjoy are a result of research done for the space program. Perhaps I'm not conservative enough, but I don't mind those things as long as they are reasonable and non-partisan.

Aylee -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:37:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me. Aylee, government funds things like medical and science research. Strictly speaking, I agree it's not constitutional and not the job of a limited government. I do find that I enjoy the benefits of the medical research. And, even, a lot of the medicine and household things we enjoy are a result of research done for the space program. Perhaps I'm not conservative enough, but I don't mind those things as long as they are reasonable and non-partisan. Medical and science research have legitimate military and defense applications. The space race most defiantly. Do you really want your enemy at the top of your gravity well? Which enumerated power does battling climate change fall under? Especially since the people that keep saying it is a crisis do not act like it is a crisis.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:41:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me. Aylee, government funds things like medical and science research. Strictly speaking, I agree it's not constitutional and not the job of a limited government. I do find that I enjoy the benefits of the medical research. And, even, a lot of the medicine and household things we enjoy are a result of research done for the space program. Perhaps I'm not conservative enough, but I don't mind those things as long as they are reasonable and non-partisan. Medical and science research have legitimate military and defense applications. The space race most defiantly. Do you really want your enemy at the top of your gravity well? Which enumerated power does battling climate change fall under? Especially since the people that keep saying it is a crisis do not act like it is a crisis. I almost said the legitimate military thing. I understand the point. I agree with the point. But, when Ike built all of the major highways and said it was so Armies could move tanks around for defense, was that real and aren't we actually using the highways more for vacations than moving tanks. Which go on trains and ships anyway.

bounty44 -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 3:45:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? How are we defining 'conservative government' here? Make sure you define it REALLY well. I don't have to define it "REALLY well"---its enough, for the sake of the conversation, to define it as PS is seeing it in the context of his saying that political conservatives in England have been referencing combatting "climate change" as a part of their party's platform. so perhaps rather than "conservative government" it might be more appropriate to say "conservatives in government"

bounty44 -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 4:01:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic "If any one says, 'I love God,' and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen" (1 Jn. 4:20). I find it so ironic when non-Christians are "criticizing" Christians for "not behaving" as the Bible "dictates" and they do so while being nastier than the Christians that they are "criticizing". Then there is this "strange" idea that Christians are sheep who will "bow down" to them if they "quote" the Bible. They seem to imagine that Christians don't think about what Scripture says so they'll blindly listen to what they want them to do/think. They often don't realize that Christians often deal with other Christians who do take "verses" out of context (along with ignoring other verses). So since Christians often disagree with other Christians, why do they imagine that Christians will follow their "take" from Scripture? there is that...and there is also that I have absolutely no idea why that verse was quoted in response to my wondering about good stewardship of the earth and the potential for compromising conservative principles. To be snarky and prove that Christians are not being Christian-y enough. "hate his brother" I imagine to be anything Christians espouse in terms of behavior that disagrees with the prevailing liberal view...and perhaps forgetting the "love the sinner, hate the sin" sentiment.

bounty44 -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 4:05:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me. Aylee, government funds things like medical and science research. Strictly speaking, I agree it's not constitutional and not the job of a limited government. I do find that I enjoy the benefits of the medical research. And, even, a lot of the medicine and household things we enjoy are a result of research done for the space program. Perhaps I'm not conservative enough, but I don't mind those things as long as they are reasonable and non-partisan. Medical and science research have legitimate military and defense applications. The space race most defiantly. Do you really want your enemy at the top of your gravity well? Which enumerated power does battling climate change fall under? Especially since the people that keep saying it is a crisis do not act like it is a crisis. so a first part of the answer to the question is, how does it exhibit fidelity to the constitution?

Lucylastic -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 6:01:49 PM)
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DesideriScuri -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 6:50:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: what sets fox news apart from all the other stations out there is that it is indeed fair and balanced Wow! Are there lots of other people who believe that out there, Bounty? Fox News Channel routinely bests the other channels, so, yes, there seems to be a lot of other people out there that believe that. Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they are fair or balanced. I do believe they are the "most fair" and "most balanced" media outlet, but it definitely has a conservative bend to it. As far as the "opinion" staff, it is decidedly rightist and not balanced. Hannity for sure on that last part, but in that case (and with o'reilly too, and the five) there are always liberals well represented in the guest list. I can say though, while I like sean Hannity personally, I don't like how he treats liberals on his show. lately, ive been enjoying the five minus bob beckel---Julie roginsky and juan Williams have been sitting in for him. I have a great distaste for Hannity. I think he is probably one of the most hyper partisan personalities they have. I think he may be even more partisan than Rush, which should say a lot. I don't care for how he treats callers to his radio show that don't agree with him. His laugh comes across as fake with me. Even Rush's laughter doesn't always do that to me. I don't watch Fox News outside of election nights. It's not that I'm busy watching other news outlets, though. I don't watch any of them. I do listen to local talk radio while driving to/from work. If something piques my interest, I'll look into it online, from a variety of sources. Much of the Fox News opinion personalities are dyed-in-the-wool Republicans. I'm a Libertarian, so their partisanship irks me.

DesideriScuri -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 7:02:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether I would put viewing/listening to NPR as better quality than FOX 'news' any day of the week. Yes, the material is dry and boring; but very much correct. Each news outlet does get things wrong from time to time. NPR is no exception. However, NPR does not push political viewpoints that are as closely aligned to a major political party as FOX does. I'm not surprised you would put NPR as better quality than FOX News. I wouldn't be surprised if you would put listening to septic system pump outs as better quality than FOX News, though, either. [:D] NPR is definitely partisan to the left, though. You may be right about it not being as "closely aligned to a major political party" as FOX News (I acknowledge that FOX News opinion personalities are very much Republican, and my difficulty with that is posted just about this post), but that doesn't mean they aren't very partisan.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 7:50:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: what sets fox news apart from all the other stations out there is that it is indeed fair and balanced Wow! Are there lots of other people who believe that out there, Bounty? Fox News Channel routinely bests the other channels, so, yes, there seems to be a lot of other people out there that believe that. Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that they are fair or balanced. I do believe they are the "most fair" and "most balanced" media outlet, but it definitely has a conservative bend to it. As far as the "opinion" staff, it is decidedly rightist and not balanced. Hannity for sure on that last part, but in that case (and with o'reilly too, and the five) there are always liberals well represented in the guest list. I can say though, while I like sean Hannity personally, I don't like how he treats liberals on his show. lately, ive been enjoying the five minus bob beckel---Julie roginsky and juan Williams have been sitting in for him. I have a great distaste for Hannity. I think he is probably one of the most hyper partisan personalities they have. I think he may be even more partisan than Rush, which should say a lot. I don't care for how he treats callers to his radio show that don't agree with him. His laugh comes across as fake with me. Even Rush's laughter doesn't always do that to me. I don't watch Fox News outside of election nights. It's not that I'm busy watching other news outlets, though. I don't watch any of them. I do listen to local talk radio while driving to/from work. If something piques my interest, I'll look into it online, from a variety of sources. Much of the Fox News opinion personalities are dyed-in-the-wool Republicans. I'm a Libertarian, so their partisanship irks me. I agree that Hannity is a Republican shill. I don't agree thatbRush is, although I don't pay much attention to him. I have in the past listened to Rush discuss Republicsn vs Conservative and place himself in the conservative camp. I, too, would be a libertarian by both of their standards and I don't like Prurile republican harping. In fact, sometimes I almost have to agree with jester on his used to be conservative off thread rants.

HunterCA -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 7:57:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: joether I would put viewing/listening to NPR as better quality than FOX 'news' any day of the week. Yes, the material is dry and boring; but very much correct. Each news outlet does get things wrong from time to time. NPR is no exception. However, NPR does not push political viewpoints that are as closely aligned to a major political party as FOX does. I'm not surprised you would put NPR as better quality than FOX News. I wouldn't be surprised if you would put listening to septic system pump outs as better quality than FOX News, though, either. [:D] NPR is definitely partisan to the left, though. You may be right about it not being as "closely aligned to a major political party" as FOX News (I acknowledge that FOX News opinion personalities are very much Republican, and my difficulty with that is posted just about this post), but that doesn't mean they aren't very partisan. I don't find NPR dry and boring. Joe, I once had a college professor (did you ever have one. Most likely not) who noted that valuable information didn't necessarily have to be entertaining or exciting. I see the slant, just as I see Rush's slant, and I accept it for what it is and input the information offered. I then evaluate the information and make my own determination. I have to think that NPR would pick an alignment one way or the other if it wasn't publicly funded. But, not being aligned is good for it as the political....funding....winds change.

Aylee -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/12/2015 8:24:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: HunterCA quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 let me throw this out there again and hopefully we can all pick up on it... is it possible for a conservative government to engage in combating "climate change" without compromising conservative principles? if so, what does that look like? what problems might actually prohibit it? No. They cannot. Why anyone would think that battling climate change is a legitimate function of small/limited government is beyond me. Aylee, government funds things like medical and science research. Strictly speaking, I agree it's not constitutional and not the job of a limited government. I do find that I enjoy the benefits of the medical research. And, even, a lot of the medicine and household things we enjoy are a result of research done for the space program. Perhaps I'm not conservative enough, but I don't mind those things as long as they are reasonable and non-partisan. Medical and science research have legitimate military and defense applications. The space race most defiantly. Do you really want your enemy at the top of your gravity well? Which enumerated power does battling climate change fall under? Especially since the people that keep saying it is a crisis do not act like it is a crisis. so a first part of the answer to the question is, how does it exhibit fidelity to the constitution? Pretty much. And PLEASE do NOT give me "commerce clause." Of course the other question that needs to be answered is, "Is it needed?" And "Is it cost-effective?"

mnottertail -> RE: CO2 levels hit a record high.. (5/13/2015 7:52:03 AM)
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

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