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BamaD -> Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:28:58 PM)

Saturday evening two cops in Hattiesburg MS were murdered during a "routine" traffic stop.
If they had managed to shoot the thug everyone would care, since only cops were killed apparently no one cares.




stef -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:30:58 PM)

For the love of christ, please don't be such an idiot.




markyugen -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:36:14 PM)

I would add for the love of Mohammad, Buddha, Confucius and Richard Dawkins.




BamaD -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:36:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

For the love of christ, please don't be such an idiot.

Sorry, I think that a cop being gunned down for doing his job is a bigger outrage than one shooting someone who is out to beat him to death.




BamaD -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:40:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef

For the love of christ, please don't be such an idiot.

Don't you find the recent outbreak of people ambushing and murdering cops disturbing?




stef -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 1:41:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: stef

For the love of christ, please don't be such an idiot.

Don't you find the recent outbreak of people ambushing and murdering cops disturbing?

I find all kinds of things disturbing. That doesn't make your OP any less idiotic.




BamaD -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 2:16:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: stef


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: stef

For the love of christ, please don't be such an idiot.

Don't you find the recent outbreak of people ambushing and murdering cops disturbing?

I find all kinds of things disturbing. That doesn't make your OP any less idiotic.

We have a rash of cops being murdered. No outrage. People who are outraged when a cop defends himself against an attack yawn if the cop gets killed. And you think that anyone who finds that hostility to cops to be a problem is an idiot. You know as well as I do that if one of the cops had managed to shoot the attacker we would have been inundated yesterday with arguments that it was provoked by the police and the cop should be arrested.




mnottertail -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 2:27:30 PM)

Uh, the outrage I have been seeing involves breaking a persons spines, and strangling a guy for peddling cigarrettes and shooting a guy in the back, all of them unarmed.





stef -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 2:34:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

We have a rash of cops being murdered. No outrage.

Bullshit.

If you're not seeing outrage for officers who were killed in the line of duty, then I would have to guess that's either due to your own personal blinders or the choices you've made regarding news sources.

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People who are outraged when a cop defends himself against an attack yawn if the cop gets killed.

Again, bullshit.

Wingnuts aside, officers who legitimately defend themselves don't engender outrage. Unfortunately, there seem to be an awful lot of cases recently where that legitimacy is either in question or a complete fabrication. In those cases, outrage is often warranted. Don't confuse those cases with the one you based this idiotic thread upon.

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And you think that anyone who finds that hostility to cops to be a problem is an idiot.

Survey says...

Bullshit!

Your post was idiotic, as is this strawman attempt.

quote:

You know as well as I do that if one of the cops had managed to shoot the attacker we would have been inundated yesterday with arguments that it was provoked by the police and the cop should be arrested.

Do I have to say it again?




BamaD -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 2:55:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stef


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

We have a rash of cops being murdered. No outrage.

Bullshit.

If you're not seeing outrage for officers who were killed in the line of duty, then I would have to guess that's either due to your own personal blinders or the choices you've made regarding news sources.

quote:

People who are outraged when a cop defends himself against an attack yawn if the cop gets killed.

Again, bullshit.

Wingnuts aside, officers who legitimately defend themselves don't engender outrage. Unfortunately, there seem to be an awful lot of cases recently where that legitimacy is either in question or a complete fabrication. In those cases, outrage is often warranted. Don't confuse those cases with the one you based this idiotic thread upon.

quote:

And you think that anyone who finds that hostility to cops to be a problem is an idiot.

Survey says...

Bullshit!

Your post was idiotic, as is this strawman attempt.

quote:

You know as well as I do that if one of the cops had managed to shoot the attacker we would have been inundated yesterday with arguments that it was provoked by the police and the cop should be arrested.

Do I have to say it again?

You have forgotten the outrage toward the cops when they shot a man in NY who was attacking them with a knife, the case in St Louis under the same circumstances, Ferguson where the cop was cleared, a case in Iowa where the left was horrified when the cops shot someone who was trying to run them down with a stolen truck and one in Co was shot trying to run cops down with an SUV. Too many people find "questions" every time, some on here have even proclaimed their hatred for cops. One person even stated that the only difference between the cops and the people they arrest is the badge.
Say it as many times as you want there is a strong anti cop undercurrent here and you denying it won't change it.




thishereboi -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 5:22:48 PM)

If it can't score points, it's not newsworthy. Depending on where you look on social pages it varies. I see a lot of stories about cops doing good things and cops getting killed on fb but that would depend on individual friends lists. Here I am not surprised if something I read online doesn't show up.




Aylee -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 5:23:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Saturday evening two cops in Hattiesburg MS were murdered during a "routine" traffic stop.
If they had managed to shoot the thug everyone would care, since only cops were killed apparently no one cares.


It does not fit the MSM or the social media #narrative. Unless the editors decide they want a headline that reads: "Two Hattiesburg Cops Involved in Fatal Shooting."




kdsub -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 6:08:08 PM)

It is telling however to compare the media reaction and coverage... I do wonder how extensive and intense the coverage would be it it were two police shooting black men at a traffic stop?

Butch




Lucylastic -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 6:16:18 PM)

FR
Then the question begs, why hasnt ANYONE posted ANY news until today...there IS plenty of it out there, blaming the lack of threads on cops being killed as being proof that "cops lives dont matter", is bullshit.
Find the news, post it...dont whine that cops lives dont matter....its a fucking lie.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 6:33:43 PM)

I'm not seeing a pattern, other than most police shootings being assumed to be justified, particularly of minorities (Assumption of criminality?) and completely ignored in the main. We do have a few recent overly publicized ones that are disturbing those emotionally invested in the status quo.
I'm seeing comparable coverage of News Worthy police deaths, particularly pure assassinations. Police or perps dying in mutually armed shootouts isn't news, it's family and community tragedies that don't have the required political weight for headline material. It's like dog bites man. Ciminals killing anyone isn't news except for unusual method or numbers. We hold the enforcers of Law and Order to a higher standard, and humans won't always be conforming to any standard.
The frequent community assumptions of police brutality and failure to be held accountable is an obvious result of . . . minority directed police brutality and failure to be held accountable. Which anyone with eyes and ears knows happens. By both white and minority police. Culture wars, like all wars, breed assumptions and brutality as 'opponents' get stereotyped and denigrated. Cultures where the college bound students ape the gang culture styles (For simple neighborhood survival) doesn't help much. The conflicts and deaths get exaggerated by various activists and provocateurs. Like every thing else possible, either side of any social chasm.




Lucylastic -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 7:05:15 PM)

All these links were from yesterday
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/mississippi-police-shooting-two-hattiesburg-cops-killed-during-traffic-stop
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/09/police-officers-shot-hattiesburg-miss/27072641/
http://www.ketv.com/national/hattiesburg-police-officers-killed/32922480
http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/south/2015/05/the_latest_mississippi_officers_had_a_humble_spirit
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-mississippi-police-officers-killed-search-suspects-n356641
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/09/mississippi-police-officers-shot-killed_n_7250082.html
http://time.com/3853091/mississippi-police-officers-fatal-shootings/
http://nypost.com/2015/05/10/3-arrested-after-shootings-of-2-mississippi-police-officers/
http://news.yahoo.com/3-arrested-shootings-2-mississippi-police-officers-120847710.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/2-mississippi-police-officers-killed-in-shooting/


SO Im calling bullshit on the OP




Aylee -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 7:26:33 PM)

I think that the OP is referring to the social media outrage such as Twitter and all of the opinion pieces that pop up with other shootings, protests on college campuses and the talking heads on TV telling us whose fault it actually is because it is never the perpetrators fault.

For example: "I'm a cop and I just cannot talk to my roommate about it" and rantings about micro-aggressions towards cops.




Sanity -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 7:28:26 PM)


Bingo. Fomenting riots, looting, racial animosity....





kdsub -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 7:40:58 PM)

Re check your links Lucy... in the Ferguson incident... it was WHITE COP kills unarmed BLACK... WHITE or POLICE kill BLACKS in each incident prominently... now look at your links... how many times do you see the race of the killers mentioned in the stories.

How many stories have the grieving mother and father with microphones in their faces.

How many outraged family and friends of the police do you see on camera condemning the violence in the black community?

How many pastors of the police do you see being interviewed condemning senseless violence against police?

How many governors, mayors, district attorneys do you see interviewed?

How many stories mention the statistics of how many police are killed... disabled...and wounded by blacks in performance of duties... they certainly had no problem finding how many blacks were killed by police.

I could go on and on with the differences in coverage... I understand the difference in stories and I actually think this story was covered correctly... it is the Ferguson...New York... and Baltimore stories that were a media circus.

Butch




Lucylastic -> RE: Cops lives don't matter. (5/11/2015 7:43:08 PM)

LMFAO I am not talking about ferguson, just the fact that MSM DID report on the OP
dont pull me into your goalpost changes, its not working.
The premise of the OP Is bullshit





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