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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:13:28 PM   
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I find it offensive as well but it is still a better use of our flag and far more important than some kid throwing a temper tantrum over flag waving.

Butch

But the first one just a kid flying a flag, it was the school board that threw the tantrum.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:16:17 PM   
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Aylee That is like saying someone loses a kid should immediately get over it because they are history now. I hope you were kidding.

Not so much "kidding" as sarcasm, methinks.

K.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:30:35 PM   
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Joe, I'm betting that with the life expectancy of a flag, hanging indoors, at $15,000 per year per student, they could afford to keep a flag in class and that just like everything else you've said you pulled that statement of yours out of your ass just to argue.


Devil's Advocate:

If schools have to keep their budgets low to quell those evil 'limited government types'; why pay for a flag when the money could better be spent on the child? Do the children not know what country they live in? Do they not know what the flag looks like? Is their selective amnesia so bad that the moment they step out of a classroom, they experience total memory lose of what the American flag looks like?

If that is true, then we might need a map of the United States of America to help remind them of what nation they live in. Then a model of the Sol System to remind them of which planet they are on. After that the Milky Way Galaxy:



At what point do we assume they know these things without the constant reminder?

My high school didn't do the pledge of allegiance all to often. We had things more critical to our study. Massachusetts is rated in the top three places for education. I'm sure where you are from the kids have to say it to ward off the commie, evil, non-white, mutant. progressive, tree-hugging, vile, socialist, liberal from taking their breath away that very night and killing them. For those of us that live in reality, we do it when it comes up.

Most of us can say the pledge of allegiance without needing a flag present. Not my fault if your one of those that needs a flag present in reality to say the pledge of allegiance, because your imagination sucks so badly.

I did wear the American flag on my shoulder for nine years. My dorm room had a REALLY big American flag on it. On my bookshelf right now, is a folded flag I got in a special ceremony once.




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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:35:48 PM   
BamaD


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Status: offline 		My high school didn't do the pledge of allegiance all to often.

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Finally you've said something everyone can believe.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:39:22 PM   
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We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against.

Come on Joether use that much praised (by you) brain. As far back as the one room school house kids were required to pay attention, they didn't need a federal program.


I would not worry about it Bama, the twit is not making sense again. You can "see" the spittle flying from his fingertips.


I hold off from insulting you. I could easily do it. As I know some of your past history. Say the right combination of words that would push your buttons into overdrive. Would be really evil, dastardly and unethical. As I would be doing the same thing your doing now....trying to get a rise out of me.

That you do not understand, like BamaD, is not my fault.

My attention is to the building yet to be made in a construction site. The imagination of the doors, the rooms, hallways, staircases and even artwork to adore the walls. That I can imagine the folks to make it, and once complete, exist within. You see only a pebble within that same site and think no further on it. That's the difference between us. That you try to hide it with petty insults, one line sentences, and a failure at humor. You fool some of the ones here. Unfortunately, the rest of see your true self.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 8:44:43 PM   
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My high school didn't do the pledge of allegiance all to often.

Finally you've said something everyone can believe.


That I could say the pledge at any time is a concept you really do not understand.

Good try on trying to attack/insult me. Better performance than Aylee. Unfortunately its still amateur hour....

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:17:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		No.. They just asked not to bring the flags to school... He got all huffy... He could drive with them anywhere he wanted. It is just not an important event and is not comparable to the other event as the op tried to make it.

Butch

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:24:58 PM   
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Aylee That is like saying someone loses a kid should immediately get over it because they are history now. I hope you were kidding.


It was sarcasm to kdsub calling a kid flying an US flag and a POW-MIA flag a "temper tantrum." As well as thinking it was wrong that someone with OUT his permission removed the flags from his truck. The flags were bolted down.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:25:09 PM   
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So. . . the kid should bolt and unbolt the flags from his truck because you think they are unnecessary at school?


Honor his relatives in a constructive way... Like fund raising for injured veterans .... Or collecting items to send to service men...but instead of that he is a "LOOK AT ME" little boy serving no useful purpose but to make trouble.

Butch

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:30:57 PM   
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We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against.

Come on Joether use that much praised (by you) brain. As far back as the one room school house kids were required to pay attention, they didn't need a federal program.


I would not worry about it Bama, the twit is not making sense again. You can "see" the spittle flying from his fingertips.


I hold off from insulting you. I could easily do it. As I know some of your past history. Say the right combination of words that would push your buttons into overdrive. Would be really evil, dastardly and unethical. As I would be doing the same thing your doing now....trying to get a rise out of me.

That you do not understand, like BamaD, is not my fault.

My attention is to the building yet to be made in a construction site. The imagination of the doors, the rooms, hallways, staircases and even artwork to adore the walls. That I can imagine the folks to make it, and once complete, exist within. You see only a pebble within that same site and think no further on it. That's the difference between us. That you try to hide it with petty insults, one line sentences, and a failure at humor. You fool some of the ones here. Unfortunately, the rest of see your true self.


Threats again twit?

Good luck with that.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:44:48 PM   
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We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against.

Come on Joether use that much praised (by you) brain. As far back as the one room school house kids were required to pay attention, they didn't need a federal program.


I would not worry about it Bama, the twit is not making sense again. You can "see" the spittle flying from his fingertips.


I hold off from insulting you. I could easily do it. As I know some of your past history. Say the right combination of words that would push your buttons into overdrive. Would be really evil, dastardly and unethical. As I would be doing the same thing your doing now....trying to get a rise out of me.

That you do not understand, like BamaD, is not my fault.

My attention is to the building yet to be made in a construction site. The imagination of the doors, the rooms, hallways, staircases and even artwork to adore the walls. That I can imagine the folks to make it, and once complete, exist within. You see only a pebble within that same site and think no further on it. That's the difference between us. That you try to hide it with petty insults, one line sentences, and a failure at humor. You fool some of the ones here. Unfortunately, the rest of see your true self.


Threats again twit?

Good luck with that.


Your a very sad individual. What has life really done to destroy your soul down to nothing?

You have said some stuff in the past. I suspect there is plenty more.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/18/2015 9:59:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against.

Come on Joether use that much praised (by you) brain. As far back as the one room school house kids were required to pay attention, they didn't need a federal program.


I would not worry about it Bama, the twit is not making sense again. You can "see" the spittle flying from his fingertips.


I hold off from insulting you. I could easily do it. As I know some of your past history. Say the right combination of words that would push your buttons into overdrive. Would be really evil, dastardly and unethical. As I would be doing the same thing your doing now....trying to get a rise out of me.

That you do not understand, like BamaD, is not my fault.

My attention is to the building yet to be made in a construction site. The imagination of the doors, the rooms, hallways, staircases and even artwork to adore the walls. That I can imagine the folks to make it, and once complete, exist within. You see only a pebble within that same site and think no further on it. That's the difference between us. That you try to hide it with petty insults, one line sentences, and a failure at humor. You fool some of the ones here. Unfortunately, the rest of see your true self.


Threats again twit?

Good luck with that.


Your a very sad individual. What has life really done to destroy your soul down to nothing?

You have said some stuff in the past. I suspect there is plenty more.


Concerned twit is. . . concerned.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 12:38:29 AM   
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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 3:01:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against.

Come on Joether use that much praised (by you) brain. As far back as the one room school house kids were required to pay attention, they didn't need a federal program.


I would not worry about it Bama, the twit is not making sense again. You can "see" the spittle flying from his fingertips.


I hold off from insulting you. I could easily do it. As I know some of your past history. Say the right combination of words that would push your buttons into overdrive. Would be really evil, dastardly and unethical. As I would be doing the same thing your doing now....trying to get a rise out of me.

That you do not understand, like BamaD, is not my fault.

My attention is to the building yet to be made in a construction site. The imagination of the doors, the rooms, hallways, staircases and even artwork to adore the walls. That I can imagine the folks to make it, and once complete, exist within. You see only a pebble within that same site and think no further on it. That's the difference between us. That you try to hide it with petty insults, one line sentences, and a failure at humor. You fool some of the ones here. Unfortunately, the rest of see your true self.

As I pointed out in another thread leftist say insulting things and don't think it counts such as your cheap shot about my not liking Hillery because she is more of a man than I am. That may pass for polite conversation in the peoples republic of Massachusetts but among civilized people it doesn't cut it.

And this proves that there was no requirement for students to pat attention how? All I said was that kids had to pay attention long before common core was thought of.

PS since you didn't seem to notice that has nothing to do will buildings.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 3:10:25 AM   
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Please return to the topic. These personal wars are getting a bit old.

Sorry, I had posted # 54 before working my way to this one.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 4:07:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		The first one...yea the fact that they took the flags off the kids truck and laid them in the bed is a bit offensive and if they were a safety hazard when driving why hadn't the cops stopped him before this. If i had to guess I would say it was just a bullshit excuse to remove them.

The second one is a form of speech and if I want to live in a country with freedom of speech I have to accept that I won't always like the message.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 4:15:39 AM   
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No.. They just asked not to bring the flags to school... He got all huffy... He could drive with them anywhere he wanted. It is just not an important event and is not comparable to the other event as the op tried to make it.

Butch



I got the impression from the article that they were trying to claim if was because they were concerned about safety.

"By the end of the school day, officials announced that flags such as Robinson’s are safety concerns. Superintendent Vernon Prosser told WSOC-TV the fear is that they could block the view of other drivers and cause a wreck."

If that's the case then why would they only want him to take them off when he was at school.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 4:18:39 AM   
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So. . . the kid should bolt and unbolt the flags from his truck because you think they are unnecessary at school?


Honor his relatives in a constructive way... Like fund raising for injured veterans .... Or collecting items to send to service men...but instead of that he is a "LOOK AT ME" little boy serving no useful purpose but to make trouble.

Butch



So sorry, I didn't realize you knew this kid personally. Has he always been this way or just since he started driving a pick up truck? And just to give us a little history, what other trouble has he caused?

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 4:35:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Because that is their only responsibility... The school grounds.

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RE: Flag Etiquette - 5/19/2015 4:41:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		All of this is opinion...but the bottom line is he was asked not to drive on school grounds with the flags... He chose to take it further. What ever the motivation it is not comparable to the second photograph. The first is childish and unnecessary. The second is distasteful but with a real purpose.

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