joether -> RE: Flag Etiquette (5/18/2015 12:29:29 PM)
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ORIGINAL: JVoV Any school that receives federal funds should stfu about kids wearing the flag, or flying it in any patriotic manner. Actually, Congress should make that a law. It could be reasonable that the wearing or flying the flag is used as a manner of disruption towards the educating of children. Its a really delicate situation in most cases. We want to encourage the use of the flag but not create havoc in the classroom as a result of it. Or FFS! Females here the same crap about disrupting education if a bra strap gets shown. How about we insist that children pay attention in class instead of trying to regulate what other people are wearing. And because this is you, twit, I am not suggesting speedos or bikinis being okay or any other ridiculous suggestion. Its funny that you demand one form of regulation and demand another is not enforced. Just like a true libertarian. Your for what your against, and against what your for. We have required children to pay attention in class; its called Common Core. I seem to recall you were against that concept as well....regulating that children pay attention in class. Again, your against what your for and for what your against. The problem with libertarians is there's just no way to please them.... quote:
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That both have been used to threaten and bully other students. Do you want the American flag being used as a metaphorical weapon to intimidate other students? Schools tend to walk a fine line here. The things used to threaten and bully students is legion. How about no threatening or bullying. Although to be fair it would not not matter what all was disallowed, children are going to find a way to threaten and bully. An that is why we have adults and even older students whom keep an eye on the ones that like to bully. And another one on the ones whom are bullied. You would rather educators just throw up their hands and give up. We as a nation tried that for decades. Didn't work. Had alot of violence in schools as a result of it. From gang violence in city schools to Columbine. You know what is a great equalizer to bullies? ....FIREARMS.... Kids are known for not thinking things through before, during and after tragedies. Would you rather deal with bullies and protect the bullied? Or attend many funerals for lives cut short? quote:
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Congress could not make it a law. Would run afoul with 1st amendment problems. Its been tried in several places and the courts have struck down the practice. Each law can have one or more exceptions to the rules. So creating a law that handles this process and survives court actions is highly unlikely to be easily written. The problem there is the law has to be 'just right'; neither broad nor narrow. Bull. The courts have upheld the right to wear the flag, walk on the flag, set it on fire. And there exist these things called 'exceptions' to the rules. In this particular case the flag can not be used in such a way as to incite violence or a riot. It was explained in the judge's ruling on the concept at the time. So yes, you can set the flag on fire. But not drape the flag with other American flags over someone you dislike's house and set them on fire (thus setting the house on fire). One would think common sense would kick in. But that is why we have the Darwin Awards. quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee Most class rooms have flags in them as well as the sports fields. Most class rooms have windows to the outside world. Yet, I've been in plenty of schools that have class rooms that didn't have one or the other or both. Have you gone into every single class room in America and confirmed that viewpoint? I doubt it. Many inner city schools do not have sports fields. Many poor school systems can not handle a budget to maintain an effective sports field. You make many assumptions without many facts to back either viewpoint up. Lots of businesses fly flags. quote:
ORIGINAL: Aylee At some point all you special snowflakes need to stop insisting that other people fall in line with your delicate sensibilities. [8|] Funny, I would say the same about you....
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