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ORIGINAL: bounty44 try looking again at post #16... and making ridiculous assumptions---"no one on this thread supports..."---doesn't help your case either. did you come here to genuinely discuss things, or to toss insults and start a fight I wonder? Cruz first and of the serious contenders Bush last. All better than Hillery So you feel someone that wanted to shut down the whole government because he was childish, would make a good President? You do know that....EVERY....enemy of the United States has been trying to do that for centuries now? He succeeded where the others failed: by exploiting the ignorance of the 'Low Information Voters'. Would you have a problem if Al Qaeda had partially shut down the US Government? Of course you would! But if a Republican does it, your 'OK' with it..... Jeb Bush recently stated the 21 advisers he would have for his foreign policy team. Seventeen of them were in the George W. Bush administration. Mr. J. Bush also stated he would have his brother helping on the team. So this guy just lost all credibility to be taken seriously. Your going to tell me the remaining people between these two are any better......how? You dont like Hillary because she is more a man than you are! I believe anyone who'd shut down the bloated cradle to grave monstrosity that exists, for any reason, should be considered for President. You understand there is more to the Federal Government than what your limiting your thought process to, right? When the partial shut down took place, guess who was not being paid? The US Military. That's right, the guy your backing wanted our troops not to have a paycheck. That's grounds from TREASON right there. Republicans came to their senses just enough to help Democrats pass a bill that would fortunately keep giving paychecks to the US Military. BTW, there is not a 'cradle to gravel' program in existance. That you dont understand high level concepts is not my problem. First off, since the military is in the constitution, non of my friends wanted that. It's just your imagination. We do appreciate constitutional things. Second, everyone got paid, just like they always do. Event the non-essential people who didn't show up to work got paid, just like they always do. So you're bloviating. What a surprise. What does what your friends want have anything to do with the military being listed or not listed in the US Constitution? Second, they were not going to be paid. That's what happened during a government shut down over financial problems; NO ONE GETS PAID. Whe Democrats and the 'sane' Republicans realized this overlooked item, they voted a separate bill to fully fund the US Military regardless circumstances (going further in debt if they had to). You can look it up if you dont believe me. The only people getting paid during that two or three week period were 'essential people'. After which there was a debate (short one) on 'if there are non-essential people in government, why are we paying them too?". To which the government had to get more specific, because the folks asking were not intelligent enough to think on the logic. The FBI, law enforcement, the prisons, the courts, were still open. An do you know...WHY....they did this partial shut down and threaten a full shutdown?
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