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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 7:44:29 PM   
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Even you aren't for a single candidate.

we all have a very large handful of months for them to distinguish themselves from each other. many of them share enough in common where it makes sense to speak in small numbers.


Yeah, because big numbers are just to hard for them. Unfortunately the job requires to understand complex equations and large sets of numbers. An then report on these large numbers to the American public.



whats insightful here, is you are so quick to bash republicans, that you completely missed that the "numbers" in question had to do with my having a small number of candidates at this point, and absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the candidates can "understand complex equations."

is this a simple reading error I wonder, or a character issue?


Can't it be both?

They are not mutually exclusive, ya know.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 9:50:24 PM   
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try looking again at post #16...

and making ridiculous assumptions---"no one on this thread supports..."---doesn't help your case either.

did you come here to genuinely discuss things, or to toss insults and start a fight I wonder?

Cruz first and of the serious contenders Bush last. All better than Hillery


So you feel someone that wanted to shut down the whole government because he was childish, would make a good President? You do know that....EVERY....enemy of the United States has been trying to do that for centuries now? He succeeded where the others failed: by exploiting the ignorance of the 'Low Information Voters'. Would you have a problem if Al Qaeda had partially shut down the US Government? Of course you would! But if a Republican does it, your 'OK' with it.....

Jeb Bush recently stated the 21 advisers he would have for his foreign policy team. Seventeen of them were in the George W. Bush administration. Mr. J. Bush also stated he would have his brother helping on the team. So this guy just lost all credibility to be taken seriously.

Your going to tell me the remaining people between these two are any better......how?

You dont like Hillary because she is more a man than you are!


I believe anyone who'd shut down the bloated cradle to grave monstrosity that exists, for any reason, should be considered for President.


You understand there is more to the Federal Government than what your limiting your thought process to, right? When the partial shut down took place, guess who was not being paid? The US Military. That's right, the guy your backing wanted our troops not to have a paycheck. That's grounds from TREASON right there.

Republicans came to their senses just enough to help Democrats pass a bill that would fortunately keep giving paychecks to the US Military.

BTW, there is not a 'cradle to gravel' program in existance. That you dont understand high level concepts is not my problem.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 9:53:28 PM   
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Even you aren't for a single candidate.




Yeah, because big numbers are just to hard for them. Unfortunately the job requires to understand complex equations and large sets of numbers. An then report on these large numbers to the American public.



Apparently you too. Still waiting on your CO2 numbers you bloviates you'd provide.


OK....in order for me to ANSWER a question, I have to know what the QUESTION is. Since you are not providing a QUESTION, it is rather hard to form an ANSWER to give. You do understand this process, yes?

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 10:00:02 PM   
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good luck not looking foolish on that one.


Come on Bounty, why should this be different?


What's wrong? Getting taxed to much to afford anything more than a cheap shot?

:P

Just returning the favor of your cheap shot, if you don't want to receive them don't take them. You have been depending on cheap shots more and more of late.


That you dish them out first each time, shows a lack of understanding the problems generated.

The reason why those insults are generated in the first place, has to do with not enough intellectual knowledge to draw from to form one or more arguments, each of which has supporting information. When you make those one line replies to my 'many block answers', tells you you dont know how to challenge what has been previously stated. Because I made good arguments with supporting materials.

Which I suspect is the unconscious reason why you dislike our current US President. He does it even better than myself during speeches!

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 10:31:14 PM   
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Seriously Joe, you've already stated you know you have the best brain on the planet. How do you expect anyone to step up and out-brain you?


Certainly not from the modern conservative or libertarian political philosophy areas. 'Old School' conservatives tend to be much more interesting to debate. They would be considered 'liberal' by your definition. Then again, you have never stopped to actually define the word 'liberal', THEN, looked it up. Its funny, we try to answer the definition of words based upon what they are associated with, but not WHY they are defined. The root word of liberal is from Latin. That word's meaning is rather funny in light of your view on the word liberal. That when you say your against the 'Liberal Media', your stating your against the 'Liberalis Media'. That you demand the media should be free or have the freedom to say what it wants, right?

Ever notice why the researchers on this forum never challenge me? Likewise, why I almost never challenge them? They challenge you and the 'rest of the gang' constantly. You know the researchers. They are the ones debunking your bull here and there. They never debunk the stuff I state. Or let me be more accurate, the grand majority of the stuff I state. An I dont do the same with them. Because it is often true and easy to verify through other sources. That I might take an 'old school' conservative viewpoint or a modern day 'liberal' notion to a topic. That you can not tell the difference is part of your problem.

I never stated I have the best brain on the planet. President Obama could own me on a game of US Constitutional Trivia Pursuit. Thomas Piketty could do the same on economics. Stephen Hawking on most of the hard sciences. I happen to know many very intelligent people that know things in their field. That if I have a question, I can tap their knowledge base. Having a high IQ is not enough. Obtaining knowledge is not enough either. Bridging the two while keeping perspective becomes the unwritten challenge. For everything else, there is knowing how to find that information.

Why do I easily beat you down? Your behaving in a dumb manner (for someone stating they are an engineer with 30 years of experience). Why? I dont really know. Why do you behave in a dumb manner? You might not even know that answer. An if you did understand the answer, would you state it without being immature or insulting? Doubtful.




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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 10:38:07 PM   
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It would have been apparent to you and I, but some other people might take offense it wasn't explicitly stated. I'm sure it would have been more explicitly implied if I used words like candy ass REMF's.


Someone has to organize the fuckin' paper clips.



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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 10:53:25 PM   
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Everyone and their idiot brother thought going into Iraq, when we did, was the right thing to do; including Hillary, John Kerry, I believe even Harry Reid.

What Iraq proved to me (and a lot of former military personnel) is that the way we wage "peace keeping" is a waste of lives and money.

If we must use the military, they should have a plan for real victory, execute it, and move on to the exit strategy. We had none. We haven't conducted a war with the purpose of going in and defeating an enemy since WWII. We ask our fighting men to go onto death's ground with their trigger hand tied around their balls.

Iraq was a mistake. No one disputes that, now. The PPLs have to hang on to it because it's on their list or talking points and it's an attempt to distract from all the shit that this "transparent" administration has been outed on.


All the people you mention, the American public even, were misled by the 'facts'. An administration that thought it was 'OK' to lie to everyone about the reality of Iraq at the time. Our troops went there. After a horrible number of loses we find that administration lied on a number of things. Who among us would support the President's decision had we known the facts at the time? Only the chicken-hawks, the defense industry, and 'The Low Information Voters'.

President Bush gave four reasons why we were invading:

1 ) To remove Saddam Hussein and his 'administration' from power.
2 ) To secure the Weapons of Mass Destruction Saddam threatens to use on the USA and its allies (i.e. Israel).
3 ) To free the Iraq people and allow for real democratic elections. Allow them to govern themselves.
4 ) To give the Iraq people the choice of how the oil flows from their nation.

You can go look them up in the history books.

How many wars have a plan for a real victory in the history of mankind? How did the USA 'win' against Japan? It came to ended with two large atomic blasts on their civilian population....

A pair of soldiers in a foxhole struggling to live during a shelling attack REALLY don't give a shit at the time what the politician some two thousand miles states a few weeks, months or even years ago.

Here is the question I have?

Why did the Republican controlled Congress...NOT...impeach George W. Bush for lying to them and the American people?

I guess if a US President is getting head from a Jewish intern behind closed doors is 'wrong', while getting over 3,200+ US Soldiers killed, over 32,500+ wounded (many with long term injuries), and spending $4 trillion of borrowed money is 'OK'.....

PS: #4 was total bullshit. Think about it. What industry is the Bush family in? THE OIL INDUSTRY. What would they have to gain from setting circumstances up so they can profit from those fields?

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/18/2015 11:17:25 PM   
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I guess if a US President is getting head from a Jewish intern behind closed doors is 'wrong'...

What, precisely, is the significance of her being a Jewish intern?

K.


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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/21/2015 4:05:33 AM   
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i just saw on tv last night that fox news and facebook will be the hosts of the first presidential debate for the republicans this august. (I wish they wouldn't call them "debates").

the field size is limited to the top ten in the polls at the time---I think ten is still way too many. (the next day apparently those not in the top ten are going to be given some extended air time).

if I remember rightly, the moderators are going to be megyn Kelly, chris Wallace and brett baier.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/21/2015 4:59:28 AM   
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good luck not looking foolish on that one.


Come on Bounty, why should this be different?


What's wrong? Getting taxed to much to afford anything more than a cheap shot?

:P

Just returning the favor of your cheap shot, if you don't want to receive them don't take them. You have been depending on cheap shots more and more of late.


That you dish them out first each time, shows a lack of understanding the problems generated.

The reason why those insults are generated in the first place, has to do with not enough intellectual knowledge to draw from to form one or more arguments, each of which has supporting information. When you make those one line replies to my 'many block answers', tells you you dont know how to challenge what has been previously stated. Because I made good arguments with supporting materials.

Which I suspect is the unconscious reason why you dislike our current US President. He does it even better than myself during speeches!

This round of insults started with you saying that I disliked Hillery because she was more of a man than me, that may pass for polite conversation in The Peoples Republic of Massachusetts but it doesn't in civilized parts of the country. So you don't debate as well as a man who can't say good morning without a teleprompter.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 6:43:19 AM   
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Fox News to limit Presidential debate candidates to ten (10).

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/05/20/first-republican-debate-is-limited-to-10-candidates/?_r=0

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 7:21:36 AM   
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try looking again at post #16...

and making ridiculous assumptions---"no one on this thread supports..."---doesn't help your case either.

did you come here to genuinely discuss things, or to toss insults and start a fight I wonder?

Cruz first and of the serious contenders Bush last. All better than Hillery


So you feel someone that wanted to shut down the whole government because he was childish, would make a good President? You do know that....EVERY....enemy of the United States has been trying to do that for centuries now? He succeeded where the others failed: by exploiting the ignorance of the 'Low Information Voters'. Would you have a problem if Al Qaeda had partially shut down the US Government? Of course you would! But if a Republican does it, your 'OK' with it.....

Jeb Bush recently stated the 21 advisers he would have for his foreign policy team. Seventeen of them were in the George W. Bush administration. Mr. J. Bush also stated he would have his brother helping on the team. So this guy just lost all credibility to be taken seriously.

Your going to tell me the remaining people between these two are any better......how?

You dont like Hillary because she is more a man than you are!


I believe anyone who'd shut down the bloated cradle to grave monstrosity that exists, for any reason, should be considered for President.


You understand there is more to the Federal Government than what your limiting your thought process to, right? When the partial shut down took place, guess who was not being paid? The US Military. That's right, the guy your backing wanted our troops not to have a paycheck. That's grounds from TREASON right there.

Republicans came to their senses just enough to help Democrats pass a bill that would fortunately keep giving paychecks to the US Military.

BTW, there is not a 'cradle to gravel' program in existance. That you dont understand high level concepts is not my problem.



First off, since the military is in the constitution, non of my friends wanted that. It's just your imagination. We do appreciate constitutional things. Second, everyone got paid, just like they always do. Event the non-essential people who didn't show up to work got paid, just like they always do. So you're bloviating. What a surprise.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 7:24:59 AM   
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Seriously Joe, you've already stated you know you have the best brain on the planet. How do you expect anyone to step up and out-brain you?


Certainly not from the modern conservative or libertarian political philosophy areas. 'Old School' conservatives tend to be much more interesting to debate. They would be considered 'liberal' by your definition. Then again, you have never stopped to actually define the word 'liberal', THEN, looked it up. Its funny, we try to answer the definition of words based upon what they are associated with, but not WHY they are defined. The root word of liberal is from Latin. That word's meaning is rather funny in light of your view on the word liberal. That when you say your against the 'Liberal Media', your stating your against the 'Liberalis Media'. That you demand the media should be free or have the freedom to say what it wants, right?

Ever notice why the researchers on this forum never challenge me? Likewise, why I almost never challenge them? They challenge you and the 'rest of the gang' constantly. You know the researchers. They are the ones debunking your bull here and there. They never debunk the stuff I state. Or let me be more accurate, the grand majority of the stuff I state. An I dont do the same with them. Because it is often true and easy to verify through other sources. That I might take an 'old school' conservative viewpoint or a modern day 'liberal' notion to a topic. That you can not tell the difference is part of your problem.

I never stated I have the best brain on the planet. President Obama could own me on a game of US Constitutional Trivia Pursuit. Thomas Piketty could do the same on economics. Stephen Hawking on most of the hard sciences. I happen to know many very intelligent people that know things in their field. That if I have a question, I can tap their knowledge base. Having a high IQ is not enough. Obtaining knowledge is not enough either. Bridging the two while keeping perspective becomes the unwritten challenge. For everything else, there is knowing how to find that information.

Why do I easily beat you down? Your behaving in a dumb manner (for someone stating they are an engineer with 30 years of experience). Why? I dont really know. Why do you behave in a dumb manner? You might not even know that answer. An if you did understand the answer, would you state it without being immature or insulting? Doubtful.







Oh we all notice exactly how that works. It's entertaining actually.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 1:54:11 PM   
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try looking again at post #16...

and making ridiculous assumptions---"no one on this thread supports..."---doesn't help your case either.

did you come here to genuinely discuss things, or to toss insults and start a fight I wonder?

Cruz first and of the serious contenders Bush last. All better than Hillery


So you feel someone that wanted to shut down the whole government because he was childish, would make a good President? You do know that....EVERY....enemy of the United States has been trying to do that for centuries now? He succeeded where the others failed: by exploiting the ignorance of the 'Low Information Voters'. Would you have a problem if Al Qaeda had partially shut down the US Government? Of course you would! But if a Republican does it, your 'OK' with it.....

Jeb Bush recently stated the 21 advisers he would have for his foreign policy team. Seventeen of them were in the George W. Bush administration. Mr. J. Bush also stated he would have his brother helping on the team. So this guy just lost all credibility to be taken seriously.

Your going to tell me the remaining people between these two are any better......how?

You dont like Hillary because she is more a man than you are!


I believe anyone who'd shut down the bloated cradle to grave monstrosity that exists, for any reason, should be considered for President.


You understand there is more to the Federal Government than what your limiting your thought process to, right? When the partial shut down took place, guess who was not being paid? The US Military. That's right, the guy your backing wanted our troops not to have a paycheck. That's grounds from TREASON right there.

Republicans came to their senses just enough to help Democrats pass a bill that would fortunately keep giving paychecks to the US Military.

BTW, there is not a 'cradle to gravel' program in existance. That you dont understand high level concepts is not my problem.

First off, since the military is in the constitution, non of my friends wanted that. It's just your imagination. We do appreciate constitutional things. Second, everyone got paid, just like they always do. Event the non-essential people who didn't show up to work got paid, just like they always do. So you're bloviating. What a surprise.


What does what your friends want have anything to do with the military being listed or not listed in the US Constitution?

Second, they were not going to be paid. That's what happened during a government shut down over financial problems; NO ONE GETS PAID. Whe Democrats and the 'sane' Republicans realized this overlooked item, they voted a separate bill to fully fund the US Military regardless circumstances (going further in debt if they had to). You can look it up if you dont believe me.

The only people getting paid during that two or three week period were 'essential people'. After which there was a debate (short one) on 'if there are non-essential people in government, why are we paying them too?". To which the government had to get more specific, because the folks asking were not intelligent enough to think on the logic. The FBI, law enforcement, the prisons, the courts, were still open.

An do you know...WHY....they did this partial shut down and threaten a full shutdown?

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 2:11:59 PM   
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Well, half of the clown car just got cleaned out.....there is pictures and everything!!!!

Republican Candidate: Benghazi Benghazi, fiscal responsibility, socialism, efficient free trade communism private sector....blah blah blah........

NewsAnchor: Tell us about this picture..............

Repeat.

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 2:29:37 PM   
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Well, half of the clown car just got cleaned out.....there is pictures and everything!!!!

Republican Candidate: Benghazi Benghazi, fiscal responsibility, socialism, efficient free trade communism private sector....blah blah blah........

NewsAnchor: Tell us about this picture..............

Repeat.


Doesnt work that way. Guilt by association is a fallacy, more Alinsky nonsense

Though Stephanopoulos might go as low as that, conceivably

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 2:37:18 PM   
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you guilted him by association, and Obama by Wright, many many times, and thats only two of many many examples, Alinsky.

Those pictures will be shown and questions will be asked about the morals of the rabid rightwing shitbreathers.
This is the end of those filthy bastards.


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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/22/2015 3:11:58 PM   
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you guilted him by association, and Obama by Wright, many many times, and thats only two of many many examples, Alinsky.

Those pictures will be shown and questions will be asked about the morals of the rabid rightwing shitbreathers.
This is the end of those filthy bastards.



I linked to video of Obama praising a similar criminal on your stupid bs gotcha thread

As far as Wright goes, you should be more careful maligning conservatives because you cant see the differences without having a mentally superior right winger splain it to you

Obama did far, far more than just have a photo taken with Wright, he called Wright his spiritual adviser

Took his wife to his racist sermons for twenty years or so, even dragged his little children along for several years

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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/23/2015 12:45:55 AM   
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As far as Wright goes, you should be more careful maligning conservatives because you cant see the differences without having a mentally superior right winger splain it to you


***** Low Information Voter Alert *******


I hope that the "mentally superior right winger" you have in mind can spell 'explain' properly.

As you seem to have failed that particular test, I guess that eliminates you from the list of potential "mentally superior right winger(s)". Which puts a big question mark over your suitability for offering good advice.

I imagine that many people are going to conclude that your post, your advice and your spelling ability are pretty much on the same level.

***** End of Low Information Voter Alert *******


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RE: Republicans for President!! - 5/23/2015 6:28:57 AM   
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we have a mentally superior right winger on the boards?
REALLY???
coulda fooled me, who is it?
do we know?

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