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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 10:14:56 AM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 10:28:18 AM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.



I bought a boat and a car, does that make me fiscally irresponsible too

I would be more worried about Hillarys financial irresponsibility. She claims that they came out of the White House not just broke, but in debt

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/06/09/hillary_clinton_we_came_out_of_the_white_house_dead_broke.html

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 10:55:29 AM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.




Oh yes yes. It will be terrible when he's president. Hehe.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 11:01:45 AM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.




Oh yes yes. It will be terrible when he's president. Hehe.


Do you think that maybe leftists are being a tad disingenuous when they wring their hands over the prospect of a Tea Party conservative being fiscally "liberal"

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 11:12:42 AM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.




Oh yes yes. It will be terrible when he's president. Hehe.


Do you think that maybe leftists are being a tad disingenuous when they wring their hands over the prospect of a Tea Party conservative being fiscally "liberal"

Disingenuous is the wrong word, hypocritical is the word.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 11:32:53 AM   
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the only legitimate questions here are:

if marco Rubio has indeed made some mistakes, or bad financial decisions personally, has he done so in any way shape or form in his capacity as a government official?

leftists are the last people that should be mingling the private with the public.

as a follow-up to the first, if he has made some mistakes and bad decisions, what did he do about them and what is his present status in relation to them? another way to read that is, "i screwed up, and im not doing that anymore." what more could you want from a person?

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 11:59:31 AM   
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the only legitimate questions here are:

if marco Rubio has indeed made some mistakes, or bad financial decisions personally, has he done so in any way shape or form in his capacity as a government official?

leftists are the last people that should be mingling the private with the public.

as a follow-up to the first, if he has made some mistakes and bad decisions, what did he do about them and what is his present status in relation to them? another way to read that is, "i screwed up, and im not doing that anymore." what more could you want from a person?


How many exposes did the far left New York Slimes do on the Obamas private life

"OMFG, MARCO RUBIO BOUGHT A BOAT, OMFG OMFG OMFG, STOP THE PRESSES OMFG"

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 12:02:17 PM   
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the only legitimate questions here are:

if marco Rubio has indeed made some mistakes, or bad financial decisions personally, has he done so in any way shape or form in his capacity as a government official?

leftists are the last people that should be mingling the private with the public.

as a follow-up to the first, if he has made some mistakes and bad decisions, what did he do about them and what is his present status in relation to them? another way to read that is, "i screwed up, and im not doing that anymore." what more could you want from a person?


How many exposes did the far left New York Slimes do on the Obamas private life

"OMFG, MARCO RUBIO BOUGHT A BOAT, OMFG OMFG OMFG, STOP THE PRESSES OMFG"



You know he probably bought the boat because he had so many speeding tickets he had to get something else to drive fast.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 1:05:21 PM   
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I assume it is so he can bring illegals in to vote for him.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:15:09 PM   
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Mr. Rubio, in his 2012 memoir, “An American Son,” confessed a “lack of bookkeeping skills” and an “imperfect accounting system.”


He's PERFECT for the Federal Government!


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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:21:44 PM   
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I wonder if Thune was gonna throw his hat in the ring.....hilarious man...
https://twitter.com/SenJohnThune/status/607990379619696640
Yesterday, Senator John Thune (R – Reaganland) distilled the Republican argument in King v Burwell, the Supreme Court case that could wipe out Obamacare subsidies for over 6 million Americans due to a typo in the bill, to its purest form: “I know you are, but what am I?”
In a tweet that was seemingly memetically generated in order to grate his nails across the chalkboard that is political Twitter as loudly as possible, Thune argued that if the Supreme Court invalidates federal insurance subsidies for consumers whose states did not set up their own health insurance exchanges, it will be President Obama’s fault for signing a bill that covered those consumers in the first place:
On a scale from one to trolling, that tweet is straight out of Lord of the Rings. Thune is basically saying that if the good parts of Obamacare are overturned, it will prove that Obamacare is bad.
Of course, the Republican-controlled Congress could step in at any time and pass a bill to fix the drafting error in Obamacare, which would render this whole Supreme Court case moot and guarantee that no one loses their subsidies. But they won’t, because that would mean that journalists could write articles that put the words “Republican,” “vote for” and “Obamacare” in the same sentence, which could then be used in ads run by primary opponents.
All of this underscores a point that Chris Trejbal made late last week: No matter what happens in King v Burwell, Republicans lose. If the court rules that the subsidies are okay, in keeping with the clear intent of the bill, then Republicans will have brought a frivolous lawsuit that put 6 million Americans at risk of losing their health coverage. If the court invalidates the subsidies, then Republicans will have actually taken away health coverage from 6 million Americans with absolutely no fallback option to restore them. That they’re field-testing arguments that not only defy logic, but flip logic the bird and insult its mother, only makes that all the more clear.
That didn�t stop Twitter from taking Thune�s argument and running with it:


Maybe they should have found out what was in it before they passed it?

(Just to reiterate, I believe the text of the law supports the challengers, but the intent of the law opposes the challengers. SCOTUS is going to have to rule on letter vs. intent, which could have far-reaching ramifications. I'm, generally, more supportive of intent, so I'm actually on the side of Obamacare on this challenge.)

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:22:45 PM   
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Even at his young age, Rubio has a lengthy, lamentable track record of financial irresponsibility, to put it mildly. To think of what havoc he would wreak as President on the public coffers is terrifying.


You do know the President doesn't really hold the purse strings, right?


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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:25:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

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I wonder if Thune was gonna throw his hat in the ring.....hilarious man...
https://twitter.com/SenJohnThune/status/607990379619696640
Yesterday, Senator John Thune (R – Reaganland) distilled the Republican argument in King v Burwell, the Supreme Court case that could wipe out Obamacare subsidies for over 6 million Americans due to a typo in the bill, to its purest form: “I know you are, but what am I?”
In a tweet that was seemingly memetically generated in order to grate his nails across the chalkboard that is political Twitter as loudly as possible, Thune argued that if the Supreme Court invalidates federal insurance subsidies for consumers whose states did not set up their own health insurance exchanges, it will be President Obama’s fault for signing a bill that covered those consumers in the first place:
On a scale from one to trolling, that tweet is straight out of Lord of the Rings. Thune is basically saying that if the good parts of Obamacare are overturned, it will prove that Obamacare is bad.
Of course, the Republican-controlled Congress could step in at any time and pass a bill to fix the drafting error in Obamacare, which would render this whole Supreme Court case moot and guarantee that no one loses their subsidies. But they won’t, because that would mean that journalists could write articles that put the words “Republican,” “vote for” and “Obamacare” in the same sentence, which could then be used in ads run by primary opponents.
All of this underscores a point that Chris Trejbal made late last week: No matter what happens in King v Burwell, Republicans lose. If the court rules that the subsidies are okay, in keeping with the clear intent of the bill, then Republicans will have brought a frivolous lawsuit that put 6 million Americans at risk of losing their health coverage. If the court invalidates the subsidies, then Republicans will have actually taken away health coverage from 6 million Americans with absolutely no fallback option to restore them. That they’re field-testing arguments that not only defy logic, but flip logic the bird and insult its mother, only makes that all the more clear.
That didn�t stop Twitter from taking Thune�s argument and running with it:


Maybe they should have found out what was in it before they passed it?

(Just to reiterate, I believe the text of the law supports the challengers, but the intent of the law opposes the challengers. SCOTUS is going to have to rule on letter vs. intent, which could have far-reaching ramifications. I'm, generally, more supportive of intent, so I'm actually on the side of Obamacare on this challenge.)

I have to favor the intent because otherwise it becomes a "living document"

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:28:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
the only legitimate questions here are:
if marco Rubio has indeed made some mistakes, or bad financial decisions personally, has he done so in any way shape or form in his capacity as a government official?


If he used campaign funds in an illegal manner, then, yes, he has done so in a capacity as a government official (or at least, a potential government official)

quote:

as a follow-up to the first, if he has made some mistakes and bad decisions, what did he do about them and what is his present status in relation to them? another way to read that is, "i screwed up, and im not doing that anymore." what more could you want from a person?


Is there repeat behavior? I can see making a mistake and learning from it, but if there is evidence that "mistakes" were made consistently, even if they weren't the exact same ones, that could point towards someone attempting to game the system through various means, and just getting caught.


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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:40:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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I wonder if Thune was gonna throw his hat in the ring.....hilarious man...
https://twitter.com/SenJohnThune/status/607990379619696640
Yesterday, Senator John Thune (R – Reaganland) distilled the Republican argument in King v Burwell, the Supreme Court case that could wipe out Obamacare subsidies for over 6 million Americans due to a typo in the bill, to its purest form: “I know you are, but what am I?”
In a tweet that was seemingly memetically generated in order to grate his nails across the chalkboard that is political Twitter as loudly as possible, Thune argued that if the Supreme Court invalidates federal insurance subsidies for consumers whose states did not set up their own health insurance exchanges, it will be President Obama’s fault for signing a bill that covered those consumers in the first place:
On a scale from one to trolling, that tweet is straight out of Lord of the Rings. Thune is basically saying that if the good parts of Obamacare are overturned, it will prove that Obamacare is bad.
Of course, the Republican-controlled Congress could step in at any time and pass a bill to fix the drafting error in Obamacare, which would render this whole Supreme Court case moot and guarantee that no one loses their subsidies. But they won’t, because that would mean that journalists could write articles that put the words “Republican,” “vote for” and “Obamacare” in the same sentence, which could then be used in ads run by primary opponents.
All of this underscores a point that Chris Trejbal made late last week: No matter what happens in King v Burwell, Republicans lose. If the court rules that the subsidies are okay, in keeping with the clear intent of the bill, then Republicans will have brought a frivolous lawsuit that put 6 million Americans at risk of losing their health coverage. If the court invalidates the subsidies, then Republicans will have actually taken away health coverage from 6 million Americans with absolutely no fallback option to restore them. That they’re field-testing arguments that not only defy logic, but flip logic the bird and insult its mother, only makes that all the more clear.
That didn�t stop Twitter from taking Thune�s argument and running with it:


Maybe they should have found out what was in it before they passed it?

(Just to reiterate, I believe the text of the law supports the challengers, but the intent of the law opposes the challengers. SCOTUS is going to have to rule on letter vs. intent, which could have far-reaching ramifications. I'm, generally, more supportive of intent, so I'm actually on the side of Obamacare on this challenge.)


This has nothing to do with the topic

Please...



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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/9/2015 2:44:09 PM   
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nothing has anything to do with this topic, since nobody is afraid of the dickwiggler Rubio.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/10/2015 8:20:01 AM   
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Hehe

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/244491-rubio-revels-in-being-target-of-media-attacks

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/10/2015 8:33:27 AM   
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This is a perfect example

From your link:

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Sen. Marco Rubio’s quest for the Republican presidential nomination is getting an unlikely lift from The New York Times.

The newspaper published two unflattering stories about the Florida senator in the course of five days, including a piece about his family’s traffic violations that was widely mocked on Twitter.

Republican strategists argue that attacks from the mainstream media, and the Times in particular, could help galvanize conservatives behind Rubio’s candidacy.

“If you’re a Republican, there is probably no better bogeyman for you than The New York Times,” said GOP consultant Matt Mackowiak, who also writes for The Hill’s Contributor’s blog.

Rubio tried to press his advantage Tuesday, firing back at a Times report that called attention to his personal finances, including the purchase of an $80,000 boat.

In a statement posted on Rubio’s website, spokesman Alex Conant accused the newspaper of mounting “the latest in their continued hits against Marco and his family.”

“First The New York Times attacked Marco over traffic tickets, and now they think he doesn’t have enough money. Of course if he was worth millions, The Times would then attack him for being too rich, like they did to Mitt Romney.”



This is what is behind the huge leftist push for "campaign finance reform" as well as FOX News Derangement Syndrome

The goal is for their New York Times and MSNBC and George Stephanopoulos, and their other big leftist media propagandists to set the narrative unchallenged

The goal is to Gruber you, to no end

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/11/2015 12:37:22 PM   
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http://nypost.com/2015/06/10/why-the-times-is-obsessed-with-smearing-marco-rubio/


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It’s no surprise the liberal paper of record will bash leading GOP contenders. But two hit jobs in one week on a guy who’s at best third in a Republican field of nearly 20?
Perhaps Sen. Rubio represents a special threat. He’s not just a credible GOP candidate — he’s also a first-generation Cuban-American success story.
Few things worry the liberal establishment more than the rise of minority conservatives who reject welfare-state identity politics.

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RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio - 6/11/2015 12:55:07 PM   
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http://nypost.com/2015/06/10/why-the-times-is-obsessed-with-smearing-marco-rubio/


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It’s no surprise the liberal paper of record will bash leading GOP contenders. But two hit jobs in one week on a guy who’s at best third in a Republican field of nearly 20?
Perhaps Sen. Rubio represents a special threat. He’s not just a credible GOP candidate — he’s also a first-generation Cuban-American success story.
Few things worry the liberal establishment more than the rise of minority conservatives who reject welfare-state identity politics.


We finally have an answer to the threads title question . And that answer is the NYT.

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