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Lucylastic -> RE: Who Is Afraid Of Marco Rubio (5/25/2015 7:11:05 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: JVoV
Desi, I neglected to answer one of your questions, so I'll give it a shot now.
1. What part of "Violence Against Women Act" should apply to males (regardless of sexual orientation)? Perhaps it should have been an overal "Domestic Violence" Act?
The simplest answer I can give is the Fourteenth Amendment's Equal Protection Clause.
So, it's not about women then? So, it should have been a domestic violence bill. Had it been a domestic violence bill, there would be no disagreement from me.
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As for the bill's name, Vice President Biden probably wanted something catchy when he originally introduced the bill as a Senator. Something the media would love. And something that made people question "what kind of bastard would vote against that".
And now we know of 22 Republican men that did.
Who would vote against the Patriot Act?
Perhaps instead of catchy names that can't be used to beat someone who doesn't support it based on valid reasons, we name bills for what's really in them? If it's not an act solely about violence against women, how about we not name it "Violence Against Women" Act?
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In addition, much of the grant funding provided under VAWA does not directly benefit victims of domestic violence, but goes toward domestic violence research, as well as lobbying for specific state and local law enforcement policies, such as mandatory arrest laws when responding to domestic violence incidents. A variety of studies have shown that the enactment of mandatory arrest laws can actually aggravate further domestic violence. In states where such policies have been enacted, intimate partner homicides have been seen to increase by as much as 60 percent.
I have no quibble with assault or domestic violence covering men....as you may already know.
Domestic violence "usually" isnt a one time thing.its a pattern of violence, abuse, verbal and emotional. It does affect far more women by stats, but the poor guys are often without help, without anyone to talk to, laughed at by their peers, and ignored by police as being a pussy, altho it has gotton better in the past decade.
Not in time enough to stop this chap from being killed, his restraining order just hours old.
http://www.post-gazette.com/local/south/2015/05/14/McKeesport-woman-charged-with-killing-husband/stories/201505140254
Christopher Katchur, who police say was fatally shot Wednesday by his estranged wife, died hours after he had obtained a restraining order against her, with the order still on him.
Mr. Katchur, 52, left the Pittsburgh Municipal Courts Building, Downtown, around 5 p.m. after successfully getting the 24-hour emergency protection-from-abuse order against Patricia L. Katchur, 55, who is now in jail and charged with criminal homicide. He wrote in his petition that he was fearful, that Mrs. Katchur had torn up their McKeesport home and had burned their marriage license in the kitchen sink.
He also said his wife had two guns and permits to carry them.
District Judge James J. Hanley Jr. on Thursday said he told Mr. Katchur to go straight to the McKeesport police so an officer could serve a copy of the order on his wife. The paperwork temporarily evicted her from the couple’s home on Orchard Street and ordered her not to abuse or contact him.
Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said Mr. Katchur had gone directly home from the courthouse. He said the victim did not contact or stop by the McKeesport Police Department to handle the PFA.
“He was just getting home when it occurred. He didn’t have time. He was just coming back from getting it. He still had it on him,” Superintendent Moffatt said. “Traditionally what you do is take it to the department. But I wouldn’t put it on him.”
Judge Hanley could not take Mrs. Katchur’s guns away. Despite what he called a “red flag” that she had firearms, his hands were tied; under state law that power rests only with Common Pleas Court judges, who can order weapons relinquished as part of granting a temporary restraining order.
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