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Your posts are boring, and monotonous. Literally a broken record. If all you are going to 'contribute' to these threads are these weak, predictable attempts at insults, at least TRY to make them half witty once in a while?

Lol, oh the irony XD

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Venezuelan farmers ordered to hand over produce to state

As Venezuela's food shortages worsen, the president of the country's Food Industry Chamber has said that authorities ordered producers of milk, pasta, oil, rice, sugar and flour to supply their products to the state stores



Venezuela's embattled government has taken the drastic step of forcing food producers to sell their produce to the state, in a bid to counter the ever-worsening shortages.

Farmers and manufacturers who produce milk, pasta, oil, rice, sugar and flour have been told to supply between 30 per cent and 100 per cent of their products to the state stores. Shortages, rationing and queues outside supermarkets have become a way of life for Venezuelans, as their isolated country battles against rigid currency controls and a shortage of US dollars – making it difficult for Venezuelans to find imported goods. ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/11754156/Venezuelan-farmers-ordered-to-hand-over-produce-to-state.html

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2015, the median income, including all of the poorest areas, after the economic downturn, salary is $96,000.

http://www1.salary.com/certified-midwife-Salary.html

So the economic downturn has had an affect here on this profession.

I have no idea what the salaries are for a nurse, midwife etc in England. All I know is that my Sister earns around £45,000.

In terms of the contrast between the systems, I just googled in American opinions of the NHS, and every link of the first page was extremely complimentary on the behalf of Americans who had used our system.

Here's an example:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/an-american-uses-britain-nhs-2015-1?r=US

I don't know why I'm arguing this because quite frankly I don't care which is the best system.

Okay read your link. Some notes. He says it was all free but in the US people pay $8,000ish. He's obviously not counting the taxes he pays for the system that we do not pay. So, he doesn't understand what he's talking about in that regard.

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I posted something yesterday that shows France takes 8% of a salary for medical. It seems to me that is a wash. Actually, I pay roughly $6,000 a year for health care and if they took 8% of my salary it would be substantially more. How much more I won't say in this forum but leave it at substantially. So as a percentage, I pay a much lower percentage.

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The other note is about waitin in emergency rooms. Here, emergency rooms are full, always, with illigal aliens using them for stuff like colds. If you had 16,000,000 people using your emergency rooms for general practice type going to see the doctor, I'd guess your system would colaspe. But, on the other hand he mentions since he has citizenship there he is entitled to use the emergency room. I wonder if you would even allow 16,000,000 illigals into your system and if you did, or didn't, how your system would actually compare to ours.

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So, that problems stems from another source. And it does point out he had to wait six weeks to see a specialist. Where I've recounted here where I went from primary care physician all the way through surgery in three weeks.

Also, I'd like to recount that the guy thought he was loosing his hearing when he was given an appointment six weeks out. I'll recount that once, in my mid 30's I was whacked by a bad bounding baseball directly on the ear. I lost hearing and blood was dribbling from my ear. I was seen at the emergency room in about two minutes and was given an appointment with a specialist the next day.

So, my personal experience is that I have been better served here than he was there, despite 16,000,000 illigals using the system without paying into the system.

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Venezuelan farmers ordered to hand over produce to state

As Venezuela's food shortages worsen, the president of the country's Food Industry Chamber has said that authorities ordered producers of milk, pasta, oil, rice, sugar and flour to supply their products to the state stores



Venezuela's embattled government has taken the drastic step of forcing food producers to sell their produce to the state, in a bid to counter the ever-worsening shortages.

Farmers and manufacturers who produce milk, pasta, oil, rice, sugar and flour have been told to supply between 30 per cent and 100 per cent of their products to the state stores. Shortages, rationing and queues outside supermarkets have become a way of life for Venezuelans, as their isolated country battles against rigid currency controls and a shortage of US dollars – making it difficult for Venezuelans to find imported goods. ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/11754156/Venezuelan-farmers-ordered-to-hand-over-produce-to-state.html

This article linked to another article which said that part of their problem is that they derive 95% of their export income from oil, which has fallen in price in recent years. In essence, they're suffering the results of a trade deficit, since their income is not sufficient to pay for what they need to import. It's scenes like this which make some people in the US worry about our own trade deficit, while wondering why so many people support policies which allow it to continue.

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The us government spends more per capita on healthcare than the UK govt. The $8000ish, which is pretty close is a combination of US government spend plus private spend.

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The us government spends more per capita on healthcare than the UK govt. The $8000ish, which is pretty close is a combination of US government spend plus private spend.

And the U.S. government (which is here to help) put every policy in place that has driven costs as high as they are

The natural leftist response? Get government out of the way? No - more government "help" (of course).

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The us government spends more per capita on healthcare than the UK govt. The $8000ish, which is pretty close is a combination of US government spend plus private spend.

And the U.S. government (which is here to help) put every policy in place that has driven costs as high as they are

The natural leftist response? Get government out of the way? No - more government "help" (of course).

Do you have a humiliation fetish?

If you desperately want to spend DOUBLE on healthcare compared with a slew of other highly developed countries in order satisfy your ideology, and if calling more efficient systrms "leftist" makes you feel better about the fact that you're being ripped off by a shockingly inefficient system then bless your heart.

The natural leftist response would be to look at the massive billing fraud, the inefficiencies, and the inequality of the healthcare system with a view to providing one that gave people choice (such as we have here in Europe), allowed people to buy private medical insurance if they want to (such as we can in Europe), ensuring that the economy benefits from a population that has access to adequate healthcare (as we do in Europe), and in placing the decisions about drug availability into the hands of a body that is democratically answerable to the people, rather than to secret cabals of lawyers whose primary goal is to deny people as much treatment as they can possibly get away with.

Fuck me... don't get me wrong, there are a bazillion things about your great nation that the Europeans should be emulating, but copying your fucked up healthcare system aint one of them.

Oh and on a silly little point of actual fact... the "right wing" parties in Europe are as supportive of national healthcare programs as their left wing opponents.

On account of this not being a "right or left" thing, and it being a basic fucking common sense thing.

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See for example the history of the USSR, of China, of North Korea, of Cuba, of Venezuela, etc etc etc

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Thus Marxist regimes always switch over from the carrot, to the stick

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Venezuela’s Food Shortages Trigger Long Lines, Hunger and Looting

Violent clashes flare in pockets around the country as citizens wait for hours for basics like milk and rice



LA SIBUCARA, Venezuela—Hours after they looted and set fire to a National Guard command post in this sun-baked corner of Venezuela earlier this month, a mob infuriated by worsening food shortages rammed trucks into the smoldering edifice, reducing it mostly to rubble.

The incident was just one of numerous violent clashes that have flared in pockets around the country in recent weeks as Venezuelans wait for hours in long supermarket lines for basics like milk and rice. Shortages have made hunger a palpable concern for many Wayuu Indians who live here at the northern tip of Venezuela’s 1,300-mile border with Colombia.

‘We are going very hungry here and the children are suffering a lot.’
—María Palma, 55, of La Sibucara

The soldiers had been deployed to stem rampant food smuggling and price speculation, which President Nicolás Maduro blames for triple-digit inflation and scarcity. But after they seize contraband goods, the troops themselves often become targets of increasingly desperate people.

“What’s certain is that we are going very hungry here and the children are suffering a lot,” said María Palma, a 55-year-old grandmother who on a recent blistering hot day had been standing in line at the grocery store since 3 a.m. before walking away empty-handed at midday.

In a national survey, the pollster Consultores 21 found 30% of Venezuelans eating two or fewer meals a day during the second quarter of this year, up from 20% in the first quarter. Around 70% of people in the study also said they had stopped buying some basic food item because it had become unavailable or too expensive.

‘If people aren’t outside protesting, they’re outside standing in line for goods.’
—Marco Ponce, head of the Venezuela Observatory of Social Conflict

Food-supply problems in Venezuela underscore the increasingly precarious situation for Mr. Maduro’s socialist government, which according to the latest poll by Datanálisis is preferred by less than 20% of voters ahead of Dec. 6 parliamentary elections. The critical situation threatens to plunge South America’s largest oil exporter into a wave of civil unrest reminiscent of last year’s nationwide demonstrations seeking Mr. Maduro’s ouster.

“It’s a national crisis,” said Marco Ponce, head of the Venezuela Observatory of Social Conflict, noting that unlike the political protests of last year, residents are now taking to the streets demanding social rights.

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Full article at: http://www.wsj.com/articles/venezuelas-food-shortages-trigger-long-lines-hunger-and-looting-1440581400

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Then, as is typical with centralized control under Marxist systems oil production fell through the floor

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Woman, 80, trampled to death in Venezuelan supermarket stampede

Rush for subsidized goods sees 75 people injured as thousands besiege supermarket

An 80-year-old Venezuelan woman died, possibly from trampling, in a scrum outside a state supermarket selling subsidized goods, the opposition and media said on Friday.

The melee at the store in Sabaneta, the birthplace of former Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez, was the latest such incident in the South American nation where economic hardship and food shortages are creating long queues and scuffles.

The opposition Democratic Unity coalition said Maria Aguirre died and another 75 people were injured - including five security officials - in chaotic scenes when National Guard troops sought to control a 5,000-strong crowd with teargas.

"Due to the shortage of food ... the desperation is enormous," local opposition politician Andres Camejo said, according to the coalition's website. It published a photo of an elderly woman's body lying inert on a concrete floor.

Camejo said thieves had also attacked the crowd, members of which were seeking to buy cheap food on offer at an outlet of the state's Mercal supermarket chain in Barinas state.

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full article here

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Then, as is typical with centralized control under Marxist systems oil production fell through the floor

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Then, as is typical with centralized control under Marxist systems oil production fell through the floor

Cite please

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Then, as is typical with centralized control under Marxist systems oil production fell through the floor

Cite please

Anything for a pal

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Venezuela’s Oil Industry Exodus Slowing Crude Production: Energy

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- When Angel Fernandez, a former production engineer with Venezuela’s state-owned petroleum company, relocated to Canada’s oil-sands region, it wasn’t for the weather. The draw was a paycheck that he said can stretch as much as 100 times further.

“It’s been very difficult adjusting to temperatures” that typically max out at -10 degrees Celsius (14 degrees Fahrenheit), Fernandez said in an interview. “But for the opportunity, it’s worth it.”

Fernandez, 33, is part of a growing exodus of skilled oilfield workers from Venezuela, where real wages for engineers have fallen to the equivalent of less than $400 a month, about 9 percent of the global average. The world’s worst inflation, swelling crime rates and a plunging currency are prompting others to move abroad, dragging down oil production at a time when slumping crude prices threaten the country’s export revenue.

While Venezuela’s foreign affairs ministry has declined to provide emigration data, job websites show surging interest. The number of Venezuelans with active resumes on Rigzone.com, a Houston-based oil and gas research company with an employment database, jumped 22 percent this year through October, and is up 68 percent over 2011. Daily page views on MeQuieroIr.com, which helps Venezuelans looking to emigrate, reached 180,000 to 200,000 in September and October, compared with an average of 60,000 for the past four years.

“This is the highest and most prolonged traffic spike we have experienced since we launched in 2001,” MeQuieroIr.com Director Esther Bermudez said in an e-mailed response to questions. Bermudez worked for seven years in Petroleos de Venezuela SA’s public affairs department in Caracas, before emigrating to Montreal in 2001.
Production Rates

PDVSA is pumping about 8,000 barrels per employee per day, compared to about 26,000 barrels in 2004, according to the trade group Gente del Petroleo. While Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has pledged to double output, few in the industry are confident this goal can be reached. ..

Full article here