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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 2:23:38 PM   
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go on welfare Ken apply for SNAP, then tell me about nanny stateism deciding what you cant eat.


A cradle to grave overbearing government program, instituted by leftists, is treating people like children, not allowing them to spend tax dollars on potato chips, beer and cigarettes, and you sound like its a bad thing.

Where do I start?

It is one thing to tell people what they can eat when you are paying for it, quite another when they are.

SO you think anyone that gets "government money" should have their lives micromanaged in this way?
Government employees, the military, everyone who takes a penny from the government
imagine the cost of having that ability....a tad more times the cost of inspecting the poor

I was in the military. As I recall, my life was micromanaged quite a bit...as was my First Sergeant's, my Captain's, etc. Now part of that may have had something to do with the unit I chose to serve with and part of it may have had something to do with the people paying our wages...the taxpayers through the government...wanting us to do something to earn all that "big money" I was receiving in wages. Why shouldn't those same wage-payers expect to see something for the money they pay to help the (always) struggling poor?

As to your earlier post about education and poverty. No one denies that there is poorer education in some urban areas. And yet, there's Jay-Z, Bill Cosby (and no, his troubles have nothing to do with where he came from or his drive to make himself somebody), Bob Marley, Trevor Faure, Martin Luther King...how did they make it? Luck?

Perhaps it is time to change our way of looking at this from a structural point of view back to a cultural point of view, as the author of this piece...a black sociologist himself...suggests.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/09/dont-like

Of course, that would take some upheaval of long-entrenched positions and a recognition of personal responsibility.

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 3:36:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		...as well as moving people off the democratic party plantation---which is self-defeating for them (the democrats).

where would they be without people to take care of (for their own good of course, never minding results) and a perpetually dependent victim class.

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 4:07:47 PM   
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snorts, I love this place....


Yup it has everything from loud-mouthed ignorant pretentious frauds trying to be patronising to fascist Catholics with insanely perverse ideas of charity and compassion.

What other place offers such an array of ugliness? What's not to love?

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 4:40:28 PM   
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snorts, I love this place....


Yup it has everything from loud-mouthed ignorant pretentious frauds trying to be patronising to fascist Catholics with insanely perverse ideas of charity and compassion.

What other place offers such an array of ugliness? What's not to love?

When you speak of ugliness, I'm pretty sure that refers to your hate-filled views on everything NOT in the "victim" class...whites, males, Jews.

What's not to love? That would be your analysis of what people are based on their disagreement with you.

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 5:10:00 PM   
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snorts, I love this place....


Yup it has everything from loud-mouthed ignorant pretentious frauds trying to be patronising to fascist Catholics with insanely perverse ideas of charity and compassion.

What other place offers such an array of ugliness? What's not to love?


Hummm? Looking around, where is the hate speech coming from? hum?

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 5:47:15 PM   
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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 6:35:58 PM   
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Tweak, Theres none so blind as those who refuse to see.


Equally blind are those who can only see what they want to see.


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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 6:48:55 PM   
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Tweak, Theres none so blind as those who refuse to see.


Equally blind are those who can only see what they want to see.


same thing:)

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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 6:59:29 PM   
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Tweak, Theres none so blind as those who refuse to see.

That seems to be a popular quip among pious ideologues.

K.


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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 7:13:26 PM   
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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 8:42:13 PM   
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I wouldnt know, the only pious thing about me is my taste for blackcurrants and rhubarb


SMH!




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RE: Food Police - 5/24/2015 8:57:17 PM   
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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 4:14:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		So why does Dominoes or any other chain for that matter have to put their 34,000,000 food combinations on the wall with their calorie information? Will there be enough wall? Will McDonalds have to post different menues for a big mac with cheese, without cheese, with mayo, without mayo, with .......

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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:06:51 AM   
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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:15:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chipotle, Starbucks, and Panera post calorie counts. It's super valuable information, and posting it is not a "hardship."

I'm not even sure we can consider McDonalds offerings "food."

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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:26:21 AM   
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Chipotle, Starbucks, and Panera post calorie counts. It's super valuable information, and posting it is not a "hardship."

I'm not even sure we can consider McDonalds offerings "food."

well yeah, but I have eaten it, and the last time I did, you got a box with a "burger" in it, you didnt get to choose what the items were, which is why i use wendys...if I eat burgers at all.
I can count on one hand the number of burgers Ive had in ten years.
Obviously people not understanding that calories, fat, salt, carbs etc ad nauseam on packages are NOT government controlling what you eat have missed out on the health craze that permeates every aspect of your life....well, im off for a sausage and bacon sammich, anyone want one?



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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:32:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		of course it was st wrinklemeats agenda that counted ketchup and pickle relish as a "vegetable"
The ketchup is a vegetable controversy refers to proposed United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food and Nutrition Service (FNS) regulations, early in the presidency of Ronald Reagan, that intended to provide more flexibility in meal planning to local school lunch administrators coping with National School Lunch Plan subsidy cuts enacted by the Omnibus Regulation Acts of 1980 and 1981.[1][2] The regulations allowed administrators the opportunity to credit items not explicitly listed that met nutritional requirements. While ketchup was not mentioned in the original regulations, pickle relish was used as an example of an item that could count as a vegetable.[3] A similar controversy arose in 2011 when Congress passed a bill prohibiting the USDA from increasing the amount of tomato paste required to constitute a vegetable; the bill allowed pizza with two tablespoons of tomato paste to qualify as a vegetable.

While ketchup was not specifically mentioned as a potential substitute, critics demonstrated outrage in Congress and in the media against the Ronald Reagan administration for cutting school lunch budgets and allowing ketchup and other condiments to count as vegetables. According to New York Times reporter Benjamin Weinraub, "the opposition had a Dickensian field day of outrage and mockery that contrasted school children's shrinking meal subsidies with the Pentagon generals' groaning board of budget increases."[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup_as_a_vegetable#Summary

Personally looking at HFCS to be removed from foods is more important.

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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:50:45 AM   
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Personally looking at HFCS to be removed from foods is more important.




Yep.

Any sort of sweetener, really, in processed foods. If I bake something sweet, it's sweetened with honey or maple syrup.

HFCS - more evidence to me as to why I will not trust the government's nutritional guidelines.

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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 7:57:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I prefer honey, over maple syrup....maple is to me a flavour, honey is just sweet...if that makes sense
but I still use sugar when Im cooking
Corn syrup was something I had never heard of before i moved over here, and Ive never used it in a recipe.
I dont trust food manufacturers to be honest....especially with shit like aspartame

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RE: Food Police - 5/25/2015 8:13:26 AM   
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I prefer honey, over maple syrup....maple is to me a flavour, honey is just sweet...if that makes sense
but I still use sugar when Im cooking
Corn syrup was something I had never heard of before i moved over here, and Ive never used it in a recipe.
I dont trust food manufacturers to be honest....especially with shit like aspartame



When I first landed in New Zealand, the first time I had ever been out of the country, I bought a Coke. It tasted different. I knew right away it tasted different. I looked at the ingredients - no HFCS! It was made with cane sugar. It's still something I avoid these days, but it was a wake-up call for me at the time how things could be different. Now I'm all buyer beware about my food. We have to be.

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