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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 6:22:17 AM   
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somehow PS (which is an incredibly amazing misnomer isn't it?) thinks that just because politicians in England who call themselves conservative are involved in climate change/global warming initiatives, that therefore disqualifies the movement from being leftist in essence---despite all the evidence to the contrary.

and never mind the possibility (reality actually) that the aforementioned politicians themselves are not acting conservatively, at least in this particular instance.

or, conservatism is whatever the heck he wants to define it as, as opposed to its commonly accepted and understood meanings.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 8:01:02 AM   
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It seems to me that the telling factor in the positions of conservatives re climate change is the size and influence of the fossil fuel industry in that country.

So in Western Europe where the fossil fuel industry's influence is relatively small, conservatives adopt proactive positions on climate change. The UK Germany and Denmark are examples of this.

However in places like Australia, Canada and the US, where the fossil fuel industry's influence is far greater, conservatives tend to adopt positions hostile to the climate change movement.

This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 8:18:50 AM   
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It seems to me that the telling factor in the positions of conservatives re climate change is the size and influence of the fossil fuel industry in that country.

So in Western Europe where the fossil fuel industry's influence is relatively small, conservatives adopt proactive positions on climate change. The UK Germany and Denmark are examples of this.

However in places like Australia, Canada and the US, where the fossil fuel industry's influence is far greater, conservatives tend to adopt positions hostile to the climate change movement.

This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.

Sure, it seems to me the telling factor in your posts is idiocity. Whatever is the lefty cause de jur you seem to whole heartedly believe, no matter what it is. It just suddenly blooms in your heart. I've never seen you doubt a leftist idea. Which demonstrates, clearly, that you don't have a mind of your own and all you do is regurgitate the kool aide you've been fed. And, then you hate on anyone that disagrees with you. Stalin used to call people like that "useful idiots". The name seems more than appropriate for you. It seems to scale with the importance and content of your posts.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 8:51:35 AM   
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Sure, it seems to me the telling factor in your posts is idiocity.

The word is 'idiocy', moron. There's no such word as 'idiocity'. Which makes you look like a right idiot indeed. Not quite what you intended. Especially when you thought you were sounding so intelligent! As if ..... !!!

It is interesting to see you demote yourself from talking about terms and concepts about which you seem rather ignorant to using made-up words that make you look just plain ole ignorant. If nothing else that streamlines things.

As your contributions to these boards seem to consist of nothing more than repeated accusations of hate, it's time someone reminded you that those who point fingers at others have three fingers pointing at themselves.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 9:25:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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Sure, it seems to me the telling factor in your posts is idiocity.

The word is 'idiocy', moron. There's no such word as 'idiocity'. Which makes you look like a right idiot indeed. Not quite what you intended. Especially when you thought you were sounding so intelligent! As if ..... !!!

It is interesting to see you demote yourself from talking about terms and concepts about which you seem rather ignorant to using made-up words that make you look just plain ole ignorant. If nothing else that streamlines things.

As your contributions to these boards seem to consist of nothing more than repeated accusations of hate, it's time someone reminded you that those who point fingers at others have three fingers pointing at themselves.

Lol, that's what you got? You promised to ignore me. Being passive aggressive you just had to have the last word didn't you? Couldn't sit still without the last word. Well, let me tell you about words, in my post modern philosophy I can use what words I like.


From the urban dictionary:

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idiocity
What Jennifer and Mel (the first two people two write a definition for this word) are afflicted with. Idiocity is what causes them to be idiotic. (Actually it's a pretty useless "word", and seems to be an overcomplicated substitute for idiocy, but whatever.)
Mel: Here is an example of 'idiocity' in which idiocity is an adjective - "Jake has a severe chance of inheriting his mother's idiocity."
Me: You idiot, that would make it a noun, for it to be an adjective, it would have to read, "Jake's mother is idiocity.", which doesn't make any sense. Man you have a severe case of idiocity.

Jennifer: Hi, I can't find the 'D' key on my keyboard, so I'll just type a 'C' anywhere there is a 'D'...
Me: I have never witnessed such idiocity.


You can't find personal thought so you just spout any leftist idea instead. Idiocity. I agree with the urban dictionary it's a pretty useless word. But, it pretty much applies in this case. It's a pun. I know it's hard for you to see original ideas. Your idiocy, your spouting of other people's ideas because you have none of your own, just as in the above definition the keyboard has no "D", is idiocity.

Now, let's see how passive aggressive you really are. You'll prove it by responding to this because you cant ignore me, as you promised. You'll have to have the last word and that will prove your idiocity and your passive aggressive inner self.

BTW, what is your fascination with me?

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 10:43:20 AM   
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This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.


Why just look at western countries, other than to do otherwise destroys your narrative

In one party communist-ruled China, there is no conservative side, and therefore there are no "donations" to the conservative side:

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China added 39 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity in 2014 — 3 gigawatts more than it added in 2013. That is equivalent to three 1,000 megawatt units every four weeks.[v] At the peak, from 2005 through 2011, China added about two 600-megawatt coal plants a week, for 7 straight years. And, China is expected to add the equivalent of a new 600-megawatt plant every 10 days for the next 10 years. These new coal plants that China is constructing are more efficient and cleaner than their old coal-fired plants.[vi]

China consumes more than 4 billion tons of coal each year, compared to less than 1 billion tons in the United States and 600 million tons in the European Union. China surpassed the United States to become the largest global carbon dioxide emitter in 2007, and it is on track to double annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions by 2017. By 2040, China’s coal power fleet is expected to be 50 percent larger than it is today and these power plants typically operate for 40 years or more.


Could it be that industry simply requires energy?

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 1:21:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.


Why just look at western countries, other than to do otherwise destroys your narrative

In one party communist-ruled China, there is no conservative side, and therefore there are no "donations" to the conservative side:

quote:

China added 39 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity in 2014 — 3 gigawatts more than it added in 2013. That is equivalent to three 1,000 megawatt units every four weeks.[v] At the peak, from 2005 through 2011, China added about two 600-megawatt coal plants a week, for 7 straight years. And, China is expected to add the equivalent of a new 600-megawatt plant every 10 days for the next 10 years. These new coal plants that China is constructing are more efficient and cleaner than their old coal-fired plants.[vi]

China consumes more than 4 billion tons of coal each year, compared to less than 1 billion tons in the United States and 600 million tons in the European Union. China surpassed the United States to become the largest global carbon dioxide emitter in 2007, and it is on track to double annual U.S. carbon dioxide emissions by 2017. By 2040, China’s coal power fleet is expected to be 50 percent larger than it is today and these power plants typically operate for 40 years or more.


Could it be that industry simply requires energy?

Oh wait, is/was Hugo Chavez terribly right wing?

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 2:03:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It seems to me that the telling factor in the positions of conservatives re climate change is the size and influence of the fossil fuel industry in that country.

So in Western Europe where the fossil fuel industry's influence is relatively small, conservatives adopt proactive positions on climate change. The UK Germany and Denmark are examples of this.

However in places like Australia, Canada and the US, where the fossil fuel industry's influence is far greater, conservatives tend to adopt positions hostile to the climate change movement.

This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.


That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs. Makes perfect sense.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 2:14:08 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs. Makes perfect sense.


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Europe’s Green Energy Industry Faces Collapse As Subsidies Are Cut

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/24/europes-green-energy-industry-faces-collapse-as-subsidies-are-cut/#ixzz3dASTxtrJ



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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 2:29:37 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.


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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 3:13:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

It seems to me that the telling factor in the positions of conservatives re climate change is the size and influence of the fossil fuel industry in that country.

So in Western Europe where the fossil fuel industry's influence is relatively small, conservatives adopt proactive positions on climate change. The UK Germany and Denmark are examples of this.

However in places like Australia, Canada and the US, where the fossil fuel industry's influence is far greater, conservatives tend to adopt positions hostile to the climate change movement.

This suggests that the telling factors are the importance of the fossil fuel industry, its scale relative to the overall economy, and of course, the amount of funds it donates to the conservative side of politics. There is no innate conservative position on climate change if one looks at all the Western countries.


That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs. Makes perfect sense.

Well, Spain and Portugal too. But who's counting?

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 3:32:21 PM   
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Chavez borrowed heavily from different -isms to do what he felt necessary for his country (and to keep himself in power).

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 3:43:32 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.



Missie dear, it's not polite to come here and tell someone they are misinformed unless you provide evidence. Unless, of course you're a bimbo. Are you a bimbo missile dear, or just a rude girl?

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 3:49:59 PM   
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Chavez borrowed heavily from different -isms to do what he felt necessary for his country (and to keep himself in power).

Thanks JVoV. The point was that tweaka was spouting leftist dogmatic nonsense. It's another sign of her idiocity. Hehe.



http://www.britannica.com/biography/Hugo-Chavez


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Hugo Chávez, in full Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías (born July 28, 1954, Sabaneta, Barinas, Venezuela—died March 5, 2013, Caracas), Venezuelan politician who was president of Venezuela (1999–2013). Chávez styled himself as the leader of the “Bolivarian Revolution,” a socialist political program for much of Latin America, named after Simón Bolívar, the South American independence hero. Although the focus of the revolution has been subject to change depending on Chavez’s goals, its key elements include nationalism, a centralized economy, and a strong military actively engaged in public projects. His ideology became known to many as simply chavismo.



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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 4:42:11 PM   
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somehow PS (which is an incredibly amazing misnomer isn't it?) thinks that just because politicians in England who call themselves conservative are involved in climate change/global warming initiatives, that therefore disqualifies the movement from being leftist in essence---despite all the evidence to the contrary.

and never mind the possibility (reality actually) that the aforementioned politicians themselves are not acting conservatively, at least in this particular instance.

or, conservatism is whatever the heck he wants to define it as, as opposed to its commonly accepted and understood meanings.


Get a fucking grip Bounty....... I have never claimed the Global Warming is driven by the right, just that some on the right accept the science... And thankfully are doing something about it, even if a little late.

What is driving the current rush to green technology is greed and goverment subsidies. There is no evidence it is driven by the left or that it isnt taking place. Modern politicians, of all parties, are onboard with ANYTHING that gives them votes.

Denial of simple facts is stupidity on your point........ If you feel me pointing that out is rude, tough shit.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 4:50:45 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.




There are some who who are perpertually misinformed missiesFavourite.

german has admitted it wont meet its target to return CO2 output back to its 1990 levels by 2020. This was never going to happen when they shut down the nuclear powerstations before enough windfarms etc were in place. The made up the shortfasll by burning brown coal.

I fucking hate windfarms as they are unsightly and one is about to be built off of the southern UK coast, but it will give a viable source of constant power, due to it being constantly windy here.


Welcome to this side of the forums.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 5:31:32 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.




There are some who who are perpertually misinformed missiesFavourite.

german has admitted it wont meet its target to return CO2 output back to its 1990 levels by 2020. This was never going to happen when they shut down the nuclear powerstations before enough windfarms etc were in place. The made up the shortfasll by burning brown coal.

I fucking hate windfarms as they are unsightly and one is about to be built off of the southern UK coast, but it will give a viable source of constant power, due to it being constantly windy here.


Welcome to this side of the forums.

Didn't read the link did you? You're so funny.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 5:45:25 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.




If they have not been, please send me the link. Thanks so much!

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 5:49:28 PM   
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That completely explains why Germany has been ending its "Green Energy" programs.



You have been misinformed. Difficult to judge from here whether they told you 1 %, 10 %, or 20 % of the story ... but hardly more than that.




There are some who who are perpertually misinformed missiesFavourite.

german has admitted it wont meet its target to return CO2 output back to its 1990 levels by 2020. This was never going to happen when they shut down the nuclear powerstations before enough windfarms etc were in place. The made up the shortfasll by burning brown coal.

I fucking hate windfarms as they are unsightly and one is about to be built off of the southern UK coast, but it will give a viable source of constant power, due to it being constantly windy here.


Welcome to this side of the forums.


Constant power? That is something that windfarms can NOT do. They can kill a lot of birds though. And cost more power to make than they provide. THAT is why Germany is getting rid of theirs.

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RE: I know Global Warming Again - 6/15/2015 11:20:12 PM   
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I think Germany's energy issues are as political as ours in the US.

http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060020196

China may actually take a lead in energy-efficiency soon, out of sheer necessity.

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