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RE: scammers - 7/4/2015 2:40:59 PM

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That's a lot to expect in a day.

You must think our small staff wants to ask people for their id, know that personal information and prevent many that may be in the closet so to speak, from having the freedom to express themselves and join others in the same. The application for volunteer staff would require security measures as well. Then of course, processing an application for a profile could take months. I'm sure most that have proven to be very real, wouldn't have handed a stranger their id to create a profile. Who do you think we are? The government?

I don't think we need security clearances for staff and site users and will just expect adults to conduct themselves with their best interest at heart and the knowledge that the wild-west-type-world-wide-net can be a tricky and unsafe place to be and take precautions.

Would you care to work pictures? Some are really gross and no one dares take the job on. They have me gagging and raging within five minutes. I think there are more important things staff can be doing by keeping that bad stuff out than some fake pictures by undocumented site users that might want your body or your money.

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RE: scammers - 7/4/2015 4:21:58 PM

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That's a lot to expect in a day.

You must think our small staff wants to ask people for their id, know that personal information and prevent many that may be in the closet so to speak, from having the freedom to express themselves and join others in the same. The application for volunteer staff would require security measures as well. Then of course, processing an application for a profile could take months. I'm sure most that have proven to be very real, wouldn't have handed a stranger their id to create a profile. Who do you think we are? The government?

I don't think we need security clearances for staff and site users and will just expect adults to conduct themselves with their best interest at heart and the knowledge that the wild-west-type-world-wide-net can be a tricky and unsafe place to be and take precautions.

Would you care to work pictures? Some are really gross and no one dares take the job on. They have me gagging and raging within five minutes. I think there are more important things staff can be doing by keeping that bad stuff out than some fake pictures by undocumented site users that might want your body or your money.

I get your point. I think it wouldn't be practical like you state. I've just noticed a difference over the years till now. Seems like the fakes, prostitutes, money dommes, and the internet fantasists have taken over. I don't expect the moderators to do more than they already are.

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RE: scammers - 7/4/2015 5:12:00 PM

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I've included an actual recent photo in my profile. Something missing from many profiles on this site. People hiding behind images or pictures of how they wish they looked. If this site required an actual accurate photo of all the members with proof of identity it would change the landscape of this site in a single day.

I don't put up pictures of myself. I would never go to a site that required proof of identity to join. At one time I had a picture of the back of me as my profile picture here. Someone kept looking at it every day. After several weeks I just removed the picture as I was uncomfortable leaving it up. However, I have never posted a face picture anywhere online nor will I ever do so.

Believe me when I say that I don't use a picture of my dear rooster Einstein because I wish I looked like him. His hairdo is a bit much for me. You are very mistaken in that assumption.

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RE: scammers - 7/4/2015 6:37:24 PM

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Ok Op maybe it's just me but you have 1 picture and this : " Looking for a dominant controlling woman".

Umm take out "dominant and controlling" and then put what's left over on a regular dating profile. Sit back and see how many women will be eager to meet the guy that has " looking for a woman" on his profile.

It's like you're not even trying and at 55 years old? What were you expecting?

You found a controlling woman, you just don't want to be controlled financially. If you're reaching out to women with that blank profile then you deserve exactly what you get.

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RE: scammers - 7/4/2015 7:08:33 PM

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Ok Op maybe it's just me but you have 1 picture and this : " Looking for a dominant controlling woman".

Umm take out "dominant and controlling" and then put what's left over on a regular dating profile. Sit back and see how many women will be eager to meet the guy that has " looking for a woman" on his profile.

It's like you're not even trying and at 55 years old? What were you expecting?

You found a controlling woman, you just don't want to be controlled financially. If you're reaching out to women with that blank profile then you deserve exactly what you get.

I appreciate your opinion, however I don't think I deserve "whatever I get". My profile is honest. It may not be attractive to many but my picture is there and I'm hopeful I'll meet someone. I didn't find a controlling woman, I was contacted by a scammer. I tried to be pretty clear about that.

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RE: scammers - 7/5/2015 5:41:56 AM

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Well, I read your profile. You're cute enough, but I would have no interest in writing to you to start a conversation.

Why? Because your profile comes across as dull and self-centered. It's all about you. There is nothing to say why any woman would have any interest in spending time with you at all, much less why a woman would want to take control of you, and responsibility for you.

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RE: scammers - 7/5/2015 9:03:27 AM

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I think there are more important things staff can be doing by keeping that bad stuff out than some fake pictures by undocumented site users that might want your body or your money.

I think the op's complaint is primarily that they don't want his body.

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RE: scammers - 7/5/2015 9:22:17 AM

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quote:

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ORIGINAL: BlueRoses1111

Ok Op maybe it's just me but you have 1 picture and this : " Looking for a dominant controlling woman".

Umm take out "dominant and controlling" and then put what's left over on a regular dating profile. Sit back and see how many women will be eager to meet the guy that has " looking for a woman" on his profile.

It's like you're not even trying and at 55 years old? What were you expecting?

You found a controlling woman, you just don't want to be controlled financially. If you're reaching out to women with that blank profile then you deserve exactly what you get.

I appreciate your opinion, however I don't think I deserve "whatever I get". My profile is honest. It may not be attractive to many but my picture is there and I'm hopeful I'll meet someone. I didn't find a controlling woman, I was contacted by a scammer. I tried to be pretty clear about that.

nocontrol49, please let me try to explain what I believe the lady meant.

She's a drop dead gorgeous young Domme. I expect she gets her inbox flooded every day. So she is used to selecting only the best letters and profiles.

Let me take a look at your profile.

First, very good picture. You're good looking, and you're smiling. The image I get from the pic is that you're a blue collar guy who is good with his hands, and that's consistent with the rest of your profile. That said, if you have another picture of you dressed up in a suit, post it to show another side of you.

The text: Looking for a dominant controlling Woman. i'm a real person and i guess my minimum requirement is that you live in phoenix and we can actually meet.

The first sentence is a given. The second sentence - why say that you're a real person? Why say anything about minimum requirements? And if you do, what else do you want? I'd suggest

Hi! I'm looking for something in real time. So I'm only interested in Dommes from the Phoenix area. And then list what else you want in her.

i did meet one Dominant Woman from this site so i know it's possible.

Why do you mention that? The person reading this will be a Domme - she doesn't need to know that meeting Dommes is possible.

That was a few years ago though. my profile is new and i don't really want to be on the site long and will delete when i meet the right Woman.

The first sentence doesn't say anything - delete it. The second makes it sound like you're ashamed of having a CS profile. Delete it as well.

i'm not in the lifestyle, meaning i don't attend fetish events or anything like that.

There are two possibilities. One is that the Domme reading this does attend events, in which case she'll quit reading at this point. The other is that the Domme reading this will not attend, and it won't make any difference to her. So this sentence won't win you anything and could lose you. The question is, WHY won't you attend? Maybe replace it with

I don't go to local events and munches because I don't like going alone. But I'd be proud to attend as half of a couple.

i'm not into pain and not looking for anyone that wants to inflict physical pain.

Negative. If you're going to rule things out, also mention what you do like. Also, notic that many Dommes would take this as no interest in CBT, which is one of your must-haves.

I don't like spanking, flogging, whips, etc., or cutting or needles. But I come alive for CBT, and orgasm control and chastity.

i want to connect on an emotional and intellectual level.

Excellent.

i'm not educated, but i can talk on a lot of subjects and be entertaining.

Excellent, recognizing how important talk is to women. But specify WHICH subjects you like to talk about, and remove the "I'm not educated" part.

i'm naturally submissive i feel, and not someone who needs to be broken. i'm also not sarcastic or hurtful. i probably wont approach many on this site, so if you want i'd like to hear from you.

The first sentence is unnecessary - the concept of breaking a sub is more fantasy than actual. The second sentence I'd reword to something like "I speak gently, and never get upset enough to shout." As far as the third sentence... forget about waiting for Dommes to contact you. They have hundreds of emails to sift through before they do that. Just say something like "I look forward to meeting you."

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RE: scammers - 7/5/2015 11:51:10 AM

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Thanks DarkSteven
Like the name by the way. Yeah I agree, my profile could be a lot better, a work in progress. Your suggestions are helpful and that is much appreciated.
I understand what you mean by not ruling things out and I should re word that. That woman that I met thru this site was truly amazing with a combination of beauty, sexy, and danger. She was into CBT in a major way which I'm not, but she insisted and made it both painful and erotic.

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RE: scammers - 7/5/2015 4:56:33 PM

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I am very forthright, but I absolutely would not be comfy with giving the site my identification. It's an open door to identity theft, stalking, etc. I'm not a ProDomme and won't accept money or "tribute." Chrch, there's no way I'd date anyone with your attitude of dating = prostitution. I do prefer that the man treat me, if we go out for something, or taking turns paying. Going dutch makes it feel like a business lunch or something. I'm fine with just getting coffee, and a $1 truffle from Sees and a $1 rose from 7-11. I like having doors held for me and such too, but that isn't a tribute, or even necessarily a D/s thing, just basic courtesy.

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RE: scammers - 7/6/2015 1:54:06 AM

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I wouldn't mind giving my identification information to the site if I knew how it was going to be stored, and if it was going to be handled only by a select number of verified/trusted individuals. I've done it before for certain games and even on the occasional job application, so I'm accustomed to it. But I can understand why people wouldn't be comfortable with it at the same time.

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RE: scammers - 7/7/2015 5:52:36 PM

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That's up to you, just I personally wouldn't give that info out to a porn/kink site, or even vanilla game site. Job applications do require ID at some point in the process, but it's not nearly as risky.

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RE: scammers - 7/8/2015 5:46:55 AM

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They all come from Racine, Wisconsin. Mystery solved.

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RE: scammers - 7/8/2015 6:17:10 AM

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I am very forthright, but I absolutely would not be comfy with giving the site my identification. It's an open door to identity theft, stalking, etc.

Just a mention - there was a site called spanko.net. The guy who ran it was a little off, to understate things. His original model was to have the site free to users and to support it with paid advertising. When he didn't earn squat that way, he changed it to a paid membership site and hit up existing members to get them to pay. He even threatened to out members if they didn't pay. (He used the excuse that he needed to verify gender since so many men were using fake female profiles.) Needless to say, it didn't work.

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RE: scammers - 7/8/2015 5:50:26 PM

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I have removed two post due to the posting of a banned person evading a ban and one response to the post.

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RE: scammers - 7/8/2015 6:54:15 PM

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Actually it was a response to Andalusite. But it was just me being snarky. So no great loss

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RE: scammers - 7/9/2015 8:46:16 PM

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ChrchofDrk, now I'm curious! I suppose you can repost or PM me, or it'll forever be a mystery. :)

DarkSteven, good to see you posting again. :) I'm glad that the nutso spanko situation got settled without any serious repercussions, but it definitely confirms my instincts not to trust such sites with my ID.

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RE: scammers - 8/18/2015 3:48:08 PM

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I require a tribute because my subs take my time and this is my job and I don't like wasting my time on people who don't want to be serious. I have an application that they pay for to show me that they are serious about wanting to be my submissive, and once they pay, they fill out the application that lets me get to know them and their likes, wants and needs better and then we take it from there by verifying via an initial Skype session.
Nothing is free, especially not my time. If you want free services then find someone who's profile states that they aren't a Pro-Domme or a Findom/domme and just a regular old-fashioned Domme who enjoys doing it a different way than us Findomme's or other Pro-Domme's.
Shocker...it is really, seriously that simple.

It's your duty to figure out if the person is fake or not. You can ask them to cam verify with you, among many other things. You can't just jump to conclusions based on the fact that they asked for a tribute for their time.

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RE: scammers - 8/23/2015 8:05:35 AM

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The Op has many valid points and concerns as do many users.
Scams exist in many format/definitions, and on all sites.
Now on all my time on/off this site I have no recollection of being mailed by someone who required my cake cash money, incidentally i have on three other main sites

Let us say I was married with 50 wives and on any site looking for more – my profile omits the fact I have 50 wives, or states I am single and looking. Each person I mail would I not be potentially scamming them?

Ashley Madison an apt one to cite. According to statements issued by those rascal hackers they imply that 90-95% of the women are not genuine women on there – there words not mine.

I am well aware of press release regarding other sites, where the parent company ( I will not name it) own hundreds (really) of other sites and they wish your cash, and according to some press releases, and ex workers, they will do anything to make you part with your cash.

All sites should be free, but most are not & I just noticed that okc yesterday (which match bought for many millions) wish me to pay to see anything beyond my last 4 viewers. Now here is a blog okcWhy You Should Never Pay For Online Dating I see the parent company got it removed from goggle cache quite an accomplished and something that does not sit well with me But 10 years when I joined match I can assure you I got my second 6 months free - I ran the maths at that point in totality and agree with the original OKC blog.

Now this site has never created fake users, never will. Nor con you into giving cash for people who do not really exists.

Does this site, I am still surprised it still eeks by in ad revenue, and notice many old faithfulls here - perhaps it still exists because many of you. Not me as the last few years I have rarely stayed long here.

But I do believe all sites should have a simple capability of being able to filter out those who require cash and those not verified. Now i will be clear here because someone does not verify themselves does not make them ungenuine. Worry not that other site fet, it numbers swell, I got into so much trouble for being pissed off at all the fake profiles/stolen work it has and i can assure you there report button does not work or the choose to do sod all about it - I am long on the record.

Every time I come here I look at site announcements to see what is happening. Regarding an update to its structure.

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RE: scammers - 8/26/2015 1:37:26 PM

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Rileywhore4sale that user I require her. I have informed the user a master representing two stolen images of a model stolen naturally let us see how I get on and how he requires payment

I will make a point and do so for nocontrol and what few visitors remain on these forums who give a fukery

Now, i have no cash at all; well cat food is astronomical and i have many cats, and my love of cheap Chardonnay legendary let alone 6000 euros I am not even sure i have one euro whatever a euro is and I am not allowed to post mails on forums no matter how big a scamming cunt they are...or am I? as all mods have been abducted by aliens i am led to believe, not that I have a recollection of them moderating scamming cunts (the word is valid)likes those fukery

Rileywhore4sale
let us see how it replies and how it wishes my cash

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