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I really can`t believe that grown ups are whining about this.....

I think many people are tired of extremism... over-reaction...political correctness...and lack of tolerance. The majority of Americans DO NOT feel the battle flag is linked to racism. This over-reaction in attempts for big business and the media to NOT seem racists ...while at the same time they enslave their workers to minimum wage is not overlooked by the majority of Americans... and they are sick of it... I am.

Just as white America within reason must be sensitive to black America they need to do the same.

Butch

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I really can`t believe that grown ups are whining about this.....

I think many people are tired of extremism... over-reaction...political correctness...and lack of tolerance. The majority of Americans DO NOT feel the battle flag is linked to racism. This over-reaction in attempts for big business and the media to NOT seem racists ...while at the same time they enslave their workers to minimum wage is not overlooked by the majority of Americans... and they are sick of it... I am.

Just as white America within reason must be sensitive to black America they need to do the same.

Butch

As a white American myself, I have to wonder why some of my fellow white Americans would pick this battle over any other concern or issue facing America as a whole.

I actually believe that it is an important step for Americans to take an honest and forthright look at our own history, so if nothing else, at least this flag issue might spark a wider debate across all of society. It's not necessarily "political correctness" to want to put forth a more truthful and honest version of historical events, particularly a monumental turning point in our history like the Civil War. My family tree has both Unionists and Confederates, so those of us who are direct descendants of that war have an obligation to tell the truth about it and not let their personal feelings or family sentiment get in the way of that.

Neither does it mean giving the Union a pass either, since the Federal government did a lot of horrible things before, during, and after the Civil War. While the Union ostensibly supported freeing the slaves on paper, they still turned the blind eye to some of the more egregious aspects of racism (not just in the South, either) and allowed "Separate But Equal" to remain the law of the land. Their atrocities and racist massacres in the West discredited whatever moral imperative the Union government might have believed it had. These people were not humanitarians, and they certainly didn't give a shit about how workers were treated.

And what is it about the Confederate battle flag anyway? It's interesting to note that many of these same people rallying around the Confederate flag would probably froth at the mouth and scream like banshees if they saw anyone waving the Hammer-and-Sickle flag of the former Soviet Union. And yet, far more Americans were killed by those serving under the Confederate flag than any killed by those serving under the Soviet flag.

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I really can`t believe that grown ups are whining about this.....

I think many people are tired of extremism... over-reaction...political correctness...and lack of tolerance. The majority of Americans DO NOT feel the battle flag is linked to racism. This over-reaction in attempts for big business and the media to NOT seem racists ...while at the same time they enslave their workers to minimum wage is not overlooked by the majority of Americans... and they are sick of it... I am.

Just as white America within reason must be sensitive to black America they need to do the same.

Butch

As a white American myself, I have to wonder why some of my fellow white Americans would pick this battle over any other concern or issue facing America as a whole.

I actually believe that it is an important step for Americans to take an honest and forthright look at our own history, so if nothing else, at least this flag issue might spark a wider debate across all of society. It's not necessarily "political correctness" to want to put forth a more truthful and honest version of historical events, particularly a monumental turning point in our history like the Civil War. My family tree has both Unionists and Confederates, so those of us who are direct descendants of that war have an obligation to tell the truth about it and not let their personal feelings or family sentiment get in the way of that.

Neither does it mean giving the Union a pass either, since the Federal government did a lot of horrible things before, during, and after the Civil War. While the Union ostensibly supported freeing the slaves on paper, they still turned the blind eye to some of the more egregious aspects of racism (not just in the South, either) and allowed "Separate But Equal" to remain the law of the land. Their atrocities and racist massacres in the West discredited whatever moral imperative the Union government might have believed it had. These people were not humanitarians, and they certainly didn't give a shit about how workers were treated.

And what is it about the Confederate battle flag anyway? It's interesting to note that many of these same people rallying around the Confederate flag would probably froth at the mouth and scream like banshees if they saw anyone waving the Hammer-and-Sickle flag of the former Soviet Union. And yet, far more Americans were killed by those serving under the Confederate flag than any killed by those serving under the Soviet flag.

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TVLand will not longer show the original Dukes of Hazzard show. The cable network yanked reruns of the show this week due to controversy over the Confederate flag on the roof of the car driven by its main characters.

I will miss Daisy Duke but I certainly agree with this move. Clearly that Dodge Charger is racist and bigoted and I'm sure most Blacks will be upset to see the General with that flag on top.

What I worry about are all those Confederate flag tattoos. I say the Government should pay for free tattoo abortion clinics for those who have this flag inked on their fair and not so fair dermis.

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I really can`t believe that grown ups are whining about this.....

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But you're still lying. This has nothing to do with free markets and profits.

They pulled it not because of bad ratings and subsequent loss of revenue but because of the controversy over the Confederate Flag, as noted by TIME Magazine (unless you think they're lying?) and The Hollywood Reporter.

Companies can be extraordinarily sensitive to bad publicity and this issue of the confederate flag was giving them that. The free market is like that: it translates people's likes and dislikes into (potential) profits and losses. That's what it's meant to do. It seems to me to be pretty useless to rage against that unless you want to control the basic mechanisms of the free market itself.

And then, what the fuck do you suppose the free market of communism is? CD, quit lying, you are hoisted upon your own petard, and now you look just plain foolish.


Yanno, if Time Magazine hadn't written that article that we were slipping razor blades into our apples, we still would be selling them, and razor blades would be as big a profit as cotton was in slavery days.....~Monsanto.....

Whatever.

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Americans would pick this battle over any other concern or issue facing America

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TVLand will not longer show the original Dukes of Hazzard show. The cable network yanked reruns of the show this week due to controversy over the Confederate flag on the roof of the car driven by its main characters.

I will miss Daisy Duke but I certainly agree with this move. Clearly that Dodge Charger is racist and bigoted and I'm sure most Blacks will be upset to see the General with that flag on top.

What I worry about are all those Confederate flag tattoos. I say the Government should pay for free tattoo abortion clinics for those who have this flag inked on their fair and not so fair dermis.

I'll take 'Exosquad' over 'Dukes of Hazard' any day. Or 'Mask', 'COPS'.....or.....'Star Blazers'! Because unlike 'Dukes of Hazard', any of those shows had good stories (particularly Exosquad which was an epic).

If you....REALLY....miss the 'Dukes of Hazard', you can find it on on Amazon.com. Season 2 for the DVD costs just $22.99.

I can't even by the seasons for Exosquad in stores or online. So quit your bitching!

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But you're still lying. This has nothing to do with free markets and profits.

They pulled it not because of bad ratings and subsequent loss of revenue but because of the controversy over the Confederate Flag, as noted by TIME Magazine (unless you think they're lying?) and The Hollywood Reporter.

Companies can be extraordinarily sensitive to bad publicity and this issue of the confederate flag was giving them that. The free market is like that: it translates people's likes and dislikes into (potential) profits and losses. That's what it's meant to do. It seems to me to be pretty useless to rage against that unless you want to control the basic mechanisms of the free market itself.

And then, what the fuck do you suppose the free market of communism is? CD, quit lying, you are hoisted upon your own petard, and now you look just plain foolish.


Yanno, if Time Magazine hadn't written that article that we were slipping razor blades into our apples, we still would be selling them, and razor blades would be as big a profit as cotton was in slavery days.....~Monsanto.....

Whatever.

Find a place where I lied and you can call me that.

The reasons for TVLand pulling Dukes of Hazzard were given in the sources I cited.

Cites for your claim?

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But you're still lying. This has nothing to do with free markets and profits.

They pulled it not because of bad ratings and subsequent loss of revenue but because of the controversy over the Confederate Flag, as noted by TIME Magazine (unless you think they're lying?) and The Hollywood Reporter.

Companies can be extraordinarily sensitive to bad publicity and this issue of the confederate flag was giving them that. The free market is like that: it translates people's likes and dislikes into (potential) profits and losses. That's what it's meant to do. It seems to me to be pretty useless to rage against that unless you want to control the basic mechanisms of the free market itself.

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Ah yes, 'tis much better to teach history as a listing of grievances. Ugh.