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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 9:48:29 PM   
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I actually agree with you. The couple of times that I saw The Dukes of Hazard, it was awful. I don't remember the storyline, it was just awful. Don't know any of those other shows you mentioned as I am not much for TV, but I have been enjoying watching "Supernatural."


Yes, Supernatural is pretty good. Have you tried 'House of Cards'? I've also enjoyed 'Sons of Anarchy'. Even found I missed a season of 'The West Wing'. I like each of these because they have good stories and good actors.

'Exosquad' was a cartoon about a future in which mankind created a subordinate race to handle the dirty work. Whom later rose up and took over the humans. And now the humans are fighting back. Created back in the 80's to battle with G.I.Joe. Unlike G.I.Joe, Exosquad had one continuous story. Really kind of advance for a children's show. They had a toy section like any other cartoon at the time. However, the company that owns the rights to Exosquad will not publish it onto a DVD for some unknown reason. It has a cult following like 'Firefly'.

Exosquad




I watch so little TV. It is taking quite a long time to get through Supernatural. I have not had the TV even on this week. The weather has been great for being outside and during the warmer parts I prefer reading.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 10:46:51 PM   
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So spreading (trying to) the guilt makes you feel less guilty? 






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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/3/2015 12:08:54 AM   
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History is just that Zonie history... Not to be forgotten…but not to be hidden. I have nothing to be sorry for... my children and grand children do not either when it comes to slavery. I am getting tired of being called racists and privileged simply because I am mostly white… bull shit. I fought …I struggled…for everything I have… I did without for many years…privileged my ass.


I'm not saying that anyone has to be sorry for anything, nor am I arguing about privilege. We might even have similar and parallel complaints here, since I think history should be looked at honestly, just as you don't want to be called racist and privileged since that, too, would be inaccurate and unfounded. But that's all the more reason to have a more honest and accurate picture of history, not some dumbed-down made-for-Hollywood version that people seem to go for.

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I have already stated my position on the flag.. it should not be flown over a state capital that represents all people of the state. But as a symbol of heritage and remembrance it has just as much right to be owned and flown by private citizens as the British flag for instance.


I agree with this completely. To me, I'm not going to lose any sleep over the Confederate flag one way or the other.

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I am all for addressing the issues… believe me anyone reading my posts for the last year knows I am frank and ready for honest talk. I want to know the racism… I want to stop the murder of black children in majority communities. I want all Americans to have equal rights.

Marching with black lives matter signs… does crap… Complaining about traffic laws that I live under as well is crap… Complaining about police killing blacks… is crap when 90 blacks were killed by blacks in the city limits of St Louis so far THIS YEAR alone…. Being black is a reason to be poor is crap… Being poor is a reason for crime is crap.

Lets find the real reasons and stop this dumb ass blame game…all it is doing is dividing America.


The real reasons are likely very complex, and even our greatest minds and experts can't really seem to agree as to what the causes are or what the solution might be. I think honest and frank discussion is important, even if it means facing a few harsh truths. But I also think that some empathy and willingness to listen to the other side is just as important. They have a point of view which they believe is valid, even if it might be made to look like "crap" when filtered through the mainstream media.

I agree that we're in a situation which could divide America, but if it comes to that, then it would be a tragic failure that could have been avoided. I also agree that the blame game is a waste of time. For one thing, it puts too many people on the defensive and becomes an impediment to actually finding out the truth of the matter. I've found this to be the case if something goes wrong at work and trying to find out exactly where and when the fuck-up occurred, and all you get is "It's not my fault." So, yes, I agree that all this blaming shit has to go. Let's just assume that we're all a bunch of fuck ups and try to move forward from here.



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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/3/2015 1:22:32 PM   
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Americans would pick this battle over any other concern or issue facing America


I agree with his part of your post completely. The problems of African Americans in this country is NOT their local police departments... it is NOT fines for traffic offenses... it is NOT the battle flag of the Confederacy.... AND most certainly it is NOT the Dukes of Hazzard... Nothing will change until they realize and address the problems within their communities... Not imaginary discrimination that no one seems to be able to quantify but everyone claims is rampant.


Butch


Try not to cloud this talking point with truth otherwise the thread will end a bit too early. Thanks.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/3/2015 2:10:21 PM   
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Come on folks, the Dukes of Hazzard wasn't *entirely* bad. Daisy Duke in her 'daisy dukes' ... agreeable backside ... spectacular ability at running in high heels ... blokes doing testicle-crunching physical things, like leaping into the 'General Lee' through the windows, in their cheescutter jeans ... sheriff's deputies with amusing names like Aenus and Cleetus ....

All right, it was a standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless show. But it was quite good, as standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless shows went, I felt. Much better than Knight Rider, though admittedly that wasn't particularly stiff competition.

yeah, I dont get why the reruns were cancelled, considering all the crap & graphic stuff thats on tv, it seems sorta stupid to do that for a show thats 30 years old.. not that i would watch it myself..

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/3/2015 8:26:54 PM   
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Come on folks, the Dukes of Hazzard wasn't *entirely* bad. Daisy Duke in her 'daisy dukes' ... agreeable backside ... spectacular ability at running in high heels ... blokes doing testicle-crunching physical things, like leaping into the 'General Lee' through the windows, in their cheescutter jeans ... sheriff's deputies with amusing names like Aenus and Cleetus ....

All right, it was a standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless show. But it was quite good, as standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless shows went, I felt. Much better than Knight Rider, though admittedly that wasn't particularly stiff competition.

yeah, I dont get why the reruns were cancelled, considering all the crap & graphic stuff thats on tv, it seems sorta stupid to do that for a show thats 30 years old.. not that i would watch it myself..

But...But...But Confederate flag!

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/3/2015 10:13:31 PM   
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Aren`t the cry-babies wetting themselves over this decision, the same ones who claiming that the market should decide?


Or maybe that`s only when the cry-babies agree.....

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:17:02 AM   
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Aren`t the cry-babies wetting themselves over this decision, the same ones who claiming that the market should decide?

Or maybe that`s only when the cry-babies agree.....
Tell youcwhar, Owner...you find anywhere in either of those 2 articles I cited where "market decision" is given as the reason for TVLand pulling the show and I'll agree.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:24:27 AM   
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I heard Bed Bath And Beyond is going to stop selling white sheets because white sheets are racist.


ETA there is also another remake of The Dukes Of Hazard in the works. The Duke boys will be driving a Prius sporting a rainbow flag. Rosie O'Donnel will play Daisy Duke and Obama is Boss Hog.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:33:27 AM   
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Come on folks, the Dukes of Hazzard wasn't *entirely* bad. Daisy Duke in her 'daisy dukes' ... agreeable backside ... spectacular ability at running in high heels ... blokes doing testicle-crunching physical things, like leaping into the 'General Lee' through the windows, in their cheescutter jeans ... sheriff's deputies with amusing names like Aenus and Cleetus ....

All right, it was a standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless show. But it was quite good, as standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless shows went, I felt. Much better than Knight Rider, though admittedly that wasn't particularly stiff competition.

yeah, I dont get why the reruns were cancelled, considering all the crap & graphic stuff thats on tv, it seems sorta stupid to do that for a show thats 30 years old.. not that i would watch it myself..



Lets not forget the gubmint represented by none other than J.D. Hogg who swindles anyone and everyone for more money and more power.

It was cancelled because it demonstrates and mocks the sins the gubmint wants to bury from our minds now that there is escalating unrest amongst their unwitting slaves.

Like the holocaust and most other historical issues that triggers emotionally dissonant trauma response its used to paralyze the rational mind to disable people from pointing the finger in the right direction and get to the core arguments of government corruption behind the scenes.

Like any other puppet show, you never see who is pulling the strings, only the actors.
The Dukes and the confederate flag represent the battle cry of the people against the People.
That is why they are taking these actions and using their private corporations to defend them.
Its a political so we the enslaved people do not seriously look at and investigate the unlawful 14th amendment and other government atrocities.












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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:39:13 AM   
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Aren`t the cry-babies wetting themselves over this decision, the same ones who claiming that the market should decide?

Or maybe that`s only when the cry-babies agree.....
Tell youcwhar, Owner...you find anywhere in either of those 2 articles I cited where "market decision" is given as the reason for TVLand pulling the show and I'll agree.



I find it shocking when information is presented and then comments appear as if that crucial and essential information was never presented.

maybe its possible that crucial part of the thread was missed, but im not sure how that could be the case here.

maybe its delusion?

otherwise, what I really think it is, is that more or less some comrades ignore reality in pursuit of their agenda.




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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:45:46 AM   
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I find it shocking when information is presented and then comments appear as if that crucial and essential information was never presented.

maybe its possible that crucial part of the thread was missed, but im not sure how that could be the case here.

maybe its delusion?

otherwise, what I really think it is, is that more or less some comrades ignore reality in pursuit of their agenda.


Far out.

God, bounty. That's up there with saying, 'Where does it say in the source that President was *wearing clothes* when he addressed the congregation at Charleston? How do we know unless it says so?' You don't have to be a berserk Red Army communist to proffer the tentative suggestion that 'businesses react to consumers' likes and dislikes'.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 5:57:02 AM   
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Aren`t the cry-babies wetting themselves over this decision, the same ones who claiming that the market should decide?

Or maybe that`s only when the cry-babies agree.....
Tell youcwhar, Owner...you find anywhere in either of those 2 articles I cited where "market decision" is given as the reason for TVLand pulling the show and I'll agree.



I find it shocking when information is presented and then comments appear as if that crucial and essential information was never presented.

maybe its possible that crucial part of the thread was missed, but im not sure how that could be the case here.

maybe its delusion?

otherwise, what I really think it is, is that more or less some comrades ignore reality in pursuit of their agenda.







Posers do that.

The ugly face of propaganda in debating tough issues has morphed again.

There is a myriad of new 'poser' propaganda that hit the stage to thwart legitimate discussion and debate over the last couple years.

When material evidence is presented 'posers' ask for some evidence.
When facts are provided 'posers' ask or state "you dont really believe that".
The net is littered with forums and people who do not fall for those tactics or worse have the ability to thwart and expose their psyop style propaganda usually are removed from the forums under false accusations of hatred or racism with the excuse that they are a 'private forum' despite they are providing a public function.

Its the latest method used to control media and oppress dissenting opinion and freedom of speech. btw I am not referring to this board, but a couple others who have wrongfully harassed or banned people under the private umbrella.




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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 6:35:41 AM   
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You don't have to be a berserk Red Army communist to proffer the tentative suggestion that 'businesses react to consumers' likes and dislikes'.

Yeah, market forces. Right.

Stop Banning Dukes Of Hazzard

Only 4 days and it's almost at the required 150,000 signatures already.

K.



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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 6:42:55 AM   
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You don't have to be a berserk Red Army communist to proffer the tentative suggestion that 'businesses react to consumers' likes and dislikes'.

Yeah, market forces. Right.

Stop Banning Dukes Of Hazzard

Only 4 days and it's almost at the required 150,000 signatures already.

K.





Celebs, big companies, politicians (of all hues, as we've already seen) ... they'll look to their profits and 'profits'. That's what happens in a free market and in the 'free world' - that's what's *meant* to happen, surely, isn't it?

I mean, really: if this is all down to the forces of 'political correctness', under their 'communist leadership' - by god, those forces are much, much more powerful in the USA than I ever realised.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 6:45:50 AM   
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forces of political profiteering.

the objective is and always has been to keep people at each others throats so they are too busy to look at the the gubmint who instigates apprehension toward each other through terrorizing their liberties, unfairly swinging that pendulum to stomp on the rights of one side to aid the other and then vice versa and back again causing constant tension and the need for more gubmint control as the mess they create expands exponentially. Job security.







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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 6:51:05 AM   
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It's all about symbols - and this confederate flag has become an embarrassing one to too many people, frankly. The powers that be know which way the wind's now blowing and aren't too happy about associating themselves with it any more. The symbol of a woman climbing up a flagpole to take it down, on the other hand ... within the space of just days it seems to have become a majorly powerful one.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 6:56:58 AM   
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Yes it is, our writing is nothing more than symbols.
Symbols have an attached meaning.

From Kiratas link:

For well over 30 years, the Confederate flag has adorned the roof of the General Lee from The Dukes of Hazzard tv show. The Dukes of Hazzard was a show about values, morals and principles - not about racism and hate!!!

Those who reject the symbol reject what it stands for as well.





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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 7:02:59 AM   
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Celebs, big companies, politicians (of all hues, as we've already seen) ... they'll look to their profits and 'profits'. That's what happens in a free market and in the 'free world' - that's what's *meant* to happen, surely, isn't it?

All it's down to in this case is a stunt by TV Land to get themselves some free publicity. And it's backfiring rather spectacularly, because nobody even remembers the Dukes (unless you remind them) except the people who watch it and are pissed!

K.



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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/4/2015 7:19:09 AM   
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All it's down to in this case is free publicity for TV Land. And it's backfiring rather spectacularly, because nobody even remembers the Dukes (unless you remind them) except the people who watch it and are pissed.

K.
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Then I wonder what they'll have to say about this...

Norman Lear Mulling ‘All in the Family’ Reboot for 2015 from Sony

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/norman-lear-mulling-all-in-the-family-reboot-for-2015-from-sony-1201361989/

...except this time it's going to be centered on a Hispanic family. This could be interesting.


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