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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 2:55:41 PM   
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Come on folks, the Dukes of Hazzard wasn't *entirely* bad. Daisy Duke in her 'daisy dukes' ... agreeable backside ... spectacular ability at running in high heels ... blokes doing testicle-crunching physical things, like leaping into the 'General Lee' through the windows, in their cheescutter jeans ... sheriff's deputies with amusing names like Aenus and Cleetus ....

All right, it was a standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless show. But it was quite good, as standard time-filler pisspoor 70s brainless shows went, I felt. Much better than Knight Rider, though admittedly that wasn't particularly stiff competition.


I just checked and I now remember why I never really watched the Dukes of Hazzard that much. In its first two seasons, it ran at the same time as "The Rockford Files." Then Rockford got cancelled. That's just plain wrong.

Besides, Rockford's Firebird could have run circles around that "General Lee."


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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 2:56:54 PM   
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Ohhh...........Rockford Files, I can feature that. ~Angel.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 3:57:28 PM   
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I really can`t believe that grown ups are whining about this.....


I think many people are tired of extremism... over-reaction...political correctness...and lack of tolerance. The majority of Americans DO NOT feel the battle flag is linked to racism. This over-reaction in attempts for big business and the media to NOT seem racists ...while at the same time they enslave their workers to minimum wage is not overlooked by the majority of Americans... and they are sick of it... I am.

Just as white America within reason must be sensitive to black America they need to do the same.

Butch


Right On! Last line says it all.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 4:02:17 PM   
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I have no idea what you are on about. It ran early 79 to early 85. there was a movie. It was all pretty bad junk. It was dumped as junk. The fad was over with mullets.

the reruns were pulled because the management of the corporation (people) decided to pull it. The market decided.

The rest is masturbation. Embrace your free market communism.

Some dickweeds howl at the moon, doesn't make it of any value.

But you're still lying. This has nothing to do with free markets and profits.

They pulled it not because of bad ratings and subsequent loss of revenue but because of the controversy over the Confederate Flag, as noted by TIME Magazine (unless you think they're lying?) and The Hollywood Reporter.



Bad as it was, Dukes of Hazzard was better that most of the new garbage on TV. This is just another example of pc gone wild.



Again, last line says it all.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 4:14:01 PM   
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But you're still lying. This has nothing to do with free markets and profits.

They pulled it not because of bad ratings and subsequent loss of revenue but because of the controversy over the Confederate Flag, as noted by TIME Magazine (unless you think they're lying?) and The Hollywood Reporter.


Companies can be extraordinarily sensitive to bad publicity and this issue of the confederate flag was giving them that. The free market is like that: it translates people's likes and dislikes into (potential) profits and losses. That's what it's meant to do. It seems to me to be pretty useless to rage against that unless you want to control the basic mechanisms of the free market itself.



And then, what the fuck do you suppose the free market of communism is? CD, quit lying, you are hoisted upon your own petard, and now you look just plain foolish.


Yanno, if Time Magazine hadn't written that article that we were slipping razor blades into our apples, we still would be selling them, and razor blades would be as big a profit as cotton was in slavery days.....~Monsanto.....

Whatever.

Find a place where I lied and you can call me that.

The reasons for TVLand pulling Dukes of Hazzard were given in the sources I cited.

Cites for your claim?



Have any of those motherfuckers held a decent job since? Are they in the IDMb top 1 million TV shows of all time, even last place? Junk is junk. Time magazine MADE them do something? Yeah, I think we have enough lies. The timeslot filler got boosted due to free market communism. Embrace the communism, you do at all other instances.

Who in the hell claimed TIME Magazine made TVLand do anything?

I think all the hate you live with has impaired you.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 4:27:41 PM   
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I actually agree with you. The couple of times that I saw The Dukes of Hazard, it was awful. I don't remember the storyline, it was just awful. Don't know any of those other shows you mentioned as I am not much for TV, but I have been enjoying watching "Supernatural."


Yes, Supernatural is pretty good. Have you tried 'House of Cards'? I've also enjoyed 'Sons of Anarchy'. Even found I missed a season of 'The West Wing'. I like each of these because they have good stories and good actors.

'Exosquad' was a cartoon about a future in which mankind created a subordinate race to handle the dirty work. Whom later rose up and took over the humans. And now the humans are fighting back. Created back in the 80's to battle with G.I.Joe. Unlike G.I.Joe, Exosquad had one continuous story. Really kind of advance for a children's show. They had a toy section like any other cartoon at the time. However, the company that owns the rights to Exosquad will not publish it onto a DVD for some unknown reason. It has a cult following like 'Firefly'.

Exosquad


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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 4:50:21 PM   
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Number 6: Where am I?
Number 2: In the Village.
Number 6: What do you want?
Number 2: We want information.
Number 6: Whose side are you on?
Number 2: That would be telling. We want information... information... information.
Number 6: You won't get it.
Number 2: By hook or by crook, we will.
Number 6: Who are you?
Number 2: The new Number 2.
Number 6: Who is Number 1?
Number 2: You are Number 6.
Number 6: I am not a number, I am a free man.


"Who is Number One?"
"You are Number Six"
"We want information"
"You won't get it!"
"By hook or by crook, we will..."

Be Seeing you...............

No doubt. As a kid, I loved that show.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 5:02:57 PM   
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He may have hated it, but he wrote most of it, and originated it, produced it.


He never once visited the weird town in Wales where it was made after the series had finished, apparently. I think they overworked the poor sod, actually. Always the same in the world of TV, from what I can make out: if something's going well and the punters are buying it, the bosses pressure you to work 24/7 till you collapse, or the series does, whichever is the sooner.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 5:05:19 PM   
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Number 6: Who is Number 1?
Number 2: You are Number 6.


Insert a comma in the line 'You are, Number 6" ... and the great mystery of the series is solved. If it were in writing, rather than spoken, McGoohan would have solved it all in the first episode.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 5:30:44 PM   
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This is getting really stupid now. Can't anyone just be normal out there? Seriously, they are just having knee jerk reactions and I am so sick of it.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 6:05:33 PM   
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It's never going to end. I watched ' Live or Let Die ' last night. The hick sheriff called a black guy boy. Will James Bond movies be taken off the air next ?

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 6:53:47 PM   
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There was a car in Dukes of Hazzard?


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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 7:06:45 PM   
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To the thread theme:
The thread comments on the racial neutrality of the Confederate flag and a need to balance White sensitivities to the realities of actual racial prejudice and persecution in the US are false to ridiculous. As for the history of the flag and what it stand for, a brief but scathing scholarly review: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/why-do-people-believe-myths-about-the-confederacy-because-our-textbooks-and-monuments-are-wrong/ar-AAcrwk1


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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 7:11:34 PM   
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Americans would pick this battle over any other concern or issue facing America


I agree with his part of your post completely. The problems of African Americans in this country is NOT their local police departments... it is NOT fines for traffic offenses... it is NOT the battle flag of the Confederacy.... AND most certainly it is NOT the Dukes of Hazzard... Nothing will change until they realize and address the problems within their communities... Not imaginary discrimination that no one seems to be able to quantify but everyone claims is rampant.


I agree that there are real issues to address, but part of the problem we're facing in society is a lack of any real honesty or frankness in addressing these issues. It's not so much the issue of the flag itself, but about the long-term damage caused by misinformation about our own country's history.



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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 7:20:12 PM   
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It depends on the context.

If the butt of the joke, satire or bit is the racist/ass-hole, then off color language is ok.

If the racist is shown in a positive light or the bit glorifies racism, then it`s not ok. 

Not sure the Ds of H was all that positive a view of the south anyway.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 7:20:35 PM   
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Who decides what a symbol means.

The people who originated it or those that want to re-define history and society to conform to their own tiny limited agenda driven world.


I don't think it's an either/or question. But as to the people who originated it, their motives for Secession and the flag which symbolized their cause is certainly relevant in examining what the symbol actually means. One would also need to examine the history leading up to the Secession and Civil War, as well as the policies and practices of the former Confederate States after their re-admission to the Union and how the flag itself has been used and perceived.

Were they ever really honest about the Lost Cause version of history to begin with? That's a fair question which probably should be answered thoroughly before anyone accuses anyone else of wanting to redefine history to conform to an agenda.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 7:24:29 PM   
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This was just in my feed on facebook...












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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 8:14:02 PM   
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History is just that Zonie history... Not to be forgotten…but not to be hidden. I have nothing to be sorry for... my children and grand children do not either when it comes to slavery. I am getting tired of being called racists and privileged simply because I am mostly white… bull shit. I fought …I struggled…for everything I have… I did without for many years…privileged my ass.

I have already stated my position on the flag.. it should not be flown over a state capital that represents all people of the state. But as a symbol of heritage and remembrance it has just as much right to be owned and flown by private citizens as the British flag for instance.

I am all for addressing the issues… believe me anyone reading my posts for the last year knows I am frank and ready for honest talk. I want to know the racism… I want to stop the murder of black children in majority communities. I want all Americans to have equal rights.

Marching with black lives matter signs… does crap… Complaining about traffic laws that I live under as well is crap… Complaining about police killing blacks… is crap when 90 blacks were killed by blacks in the city limits of St Louis so far THIS YEAR alone…. Being black is a reason to be poor is crap… Being poor is a reason for crime is crap.

Lets find the real reasons and stop this dumb ass blame game…all it is doing is dividing America.

Butch

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 9:04:11 PM   
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Key phrase....on paper.
The north financed the slave trade.
Meade had to march directly from Gettysburg to put down race rights, that means mass lynching of black in NYC.
At least one Union prison camp (in Chicago) executed blacks who served with the south as they came into the camp.
The north wasn't fighting to free the slaves until they needed a propaganda move to play for the English and French.
During reconstruction they set blacks up as front men to take the blame for the things they did in the south deliberately promoting racism.


"The north financed the slave trade" - That is a bit misleading. Many individuals from northern colonies did for quite some time (Revolution --> just prior to the Civil War) (even after it was outlawed in the northern colonies)... But as far as I can tell, it ENDED before the Civil War. Saying "The North financed the slave trade" implies that while US soldiers were fighting Confederates, Northern States were sending ships to Africa for more slaves. Keep in mind, these were unscrupulous private businessmen, not state vessels.

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RE: Dukes of Hazzard canceled due to being racist. - 7/2/2015 9:31:35 PM   
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Key phrase....on paper.
The north financed the slave trade.
Meade had to march directly from Gettysburg to put down race rights, that means mass lynching of black in NYC.
At least one Union prison camp (in Chicago) executed blacks who served with the south as they came into the camp.
The north wasn't fighting to free the slaves until they needed a propaganda move to play for the English and French.
During reconstruction they set blacks up as front men to take the blame for the things they did in the south deliberately promoting racism.


"The north financed the slave trade" - That is a bit misleading. Many individuals from northern colonies did for quite some time (Revolution --> just prior to the Civil War) (even after it was outlawed in the northern colonies)... But as far as I can tell, it ENDED before the Civil War. Saying "The North financed the slave trade" implies that while US soldiers were fighting Confederates, Northern States were sending ships to Africa for more slaves. Keep in mind, these were unscrupulous private businessmen, not state vessels.

Where do you think the plantation owners got the money to buy slave, northern banks.

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