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KenDckey -> Voting thoughts (7/22/2015 7:16:01 PM)
Arizona Carol Hannah, 65, who was a registered Republican, voted in Mohave County and in Adams County, Colo., according to the Arizona Secretary of State's Office. She was convicted of voter fraud. http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/politics/2014/05/06/bullhead-city-woman-prosecuted-double-voting/8788313/ Arkansas Three Arkansas Democrats and a police officer pleaded guilty to absentee voter fraud on Wednesday as Democrats across the country insist Voter ID laws are not necessary. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2012/09/05/arkansas-democrats-plead-guilty-to-voter-fraud/ California California state Sen. Roderick Wright was convicted Tuesday of perjury and voter fraud for falsely claiming he lived in an apartment in the district he represents when he actually lives elsewhere. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/01/28/socal-lawmaker-convicted-of-voter-fraud-perjury/ There are others http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/22/from-sea-to-shining-sea-5-examples-of-voter-fraud-across-america/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=thffacebook Scotus has as well upheld Voter ID Laws Illegal aliens do vote. http://www.examiner.com/article/stuffed-ballots-rigged-voting-machines-and-illegal-immigrants-voting We appear to be starting the election season. Early in my opinion. Personally I like a. voter ID laws b. very stiff penalties for violation of voting rules c. assurance that election commissioners follow the law d. a nationwide voting registry verified with birth/naturalization documents.

MrRodgers -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/22/2015 9:54:16 PM)
Hell, in Texas, it's easier to get a gun than to vote. The American way hey !!

BamaD -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/22/2015 10:01:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Hell, in Texas, it's easier to get a gun than to vote. The American way hey !! Do you have to get permission from the Federal government every time you try to vote? PS This is not a gun thread.

Real0ne -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 12:11:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey a. voter ID laws b. very stiff penalties for violation of voting rules c. assurance that election commissioners follow the law d. a nationwide voting registry verified with birth/naturalization documents. agreed and nameless numbered paper ballots one for th ebox and one to take home for the recount.

JVoV -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 12:39:29 AM)
Ugh maybe there will be an app soon.

KenDckey -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 12:54:10 AM)
Bama No I was thinking a Federal data base for registration. The check in idiot checks to see if you are registered according to your ID, then checks the bubble box that you are voting in his computer, then hands you the ballot and you go in your booth to vote, put the ballot in the counting machine and you vote. If your name comes up as having voted, then the little deputy with his bracelets helps you leave until we get it straightened out. They can check the newly installed security camera to see if it were you that voted previously/elsewhere, compare with your ID, friends and neighbors, and if you are who you say your are, then you don't go under the jail. If you are committing fraud, then put you under the jail and make you work on the chain gang cleaning up parks and streets in a specially designed jump suit. :D

bounty44 -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 3:35:35 AM)
ken, I like the idea of voter fraud chain gangs. in the meantime, I trust some comrades will show up here eventually and, as happens every time there's conversation about assuring the voting integrity of the elections, start whining about minority voter suppression (and that despite all evidence to the contrary.)

Zonie63 -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 5:29:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey We appear to be starting the election season. Early in my opinion. Personally I like a. voter ID laws b. very stiff penalties for violation of voting rules c. assurance that election commissioners follow the law d. a nationwide voting registry verified with birth/naturalization documents. The fact that they have mail-in ballots might be a bigger avenue towards fraud than anything else. I've heard of cases where people "sell" their votes by giving their mail-in ballots to someone else to fill out, then signing it and mailing it in as their own. Illegal immigrants can get fake IDs. You may recall a case several years ago here in AZ where a couple dozen people, including employees with MVD, DPS, and even a few Federal employees were involved in a large-scale operation to produce phony ID cards for illegals. These were not the kind of fake ID that people make in their garage. These were real IDs which would be verifiable by computer and in the Federal database. The fact that computers are used more and more in vote tabulation could also be misused. About a decade ago, there was a special election for a bond issue for roads in which there were allegations that someone in the county government hacked the program and reversed the results by simply changing all the "no" votes to "yes" and vice versa. There was a big investigation in which they said that it could have happened but that it was too late to do anything about it.

Musicmystery -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 5:56:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers Hell, in Texas, it's easier to get a gun than to vote. The American way hey !! Do you have to get permission from the Federal government every time you try to vote? PS This is not a gun thread. EVERYTHING here is a gun thread. You've seen to that by preparing the beds and never passing on an opportunity to jump on it again and prolong it endlessly so that people will comment on it the next event too.

Musicmystery -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 5:58:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey Personally I like a. voter ID laws b. very stiff penalties for violation of voting rules c. assurance that election commissioners follow the law d. a nationwide voting registry verified with birth/naturalization documents. "Show us your papers" Didn't we used to warn about authoritarian states with that phrase? Other than that, looks like the current laws are working fine--isn't that the refrain we hear about gun laws, since that's come up already?

lovmuffin -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 6:06:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery EVERYTHING here is a gun thread. In that case, long live the Second Amendment 🎉🎈🎆🎶💥🇺🇸🔫

Musicmystery -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 6:09:10 AM)
...and the incidental remarks made around it in the Constitution and other Amendments....

KenDckey -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 7:00:48 AM)
Musicmystery I am required to carry papers. It's called a military ID. I can show it but am limited by law as to when to surrender it. I also have a state drivers license and if I didn't have that I could get a state ID. MVD here also requires your SSN for verification that you are a resident of the US and whatever else that they determine must be provided as proof of legal residency (Pages 8 & 10 of the pdf) http://azdot.gov/docs/default-source/mvd-forms-pubs/99-0117.pdf?sfvrsn=11

mnottertail -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 7:29:27 AM)
Your right to drive is not ensconced in the constitution, or your right to not get taxed by paying for that ID. However those rights for voters are in the constitution.

cloudboy -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 8:35:49 AM)
There are more instances of people being struck by lightning than there are cases of voter fraud. The math and facts are not within a parsec of your thinking.

Sanity -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 8:54:19 AM)
Using that analogy, only a very few lightning strikes decided Florida in 2000 And leftist are flooding the country with illegals specifically with the intention of disenfranchising legal voters, so... Lets see some ID please

Lucylastic -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 9:29:31 AM)
WOuld be nice if Bush had lesser numbers of illegals coming in

mnottertail -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 9:42:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Using that analogy, only a very few lightning strikes decided Florida in 2000 And leftist are flooding the country with illegals specifically with the intention of disenfranchising legal voters, so... Lets see some ID please the right wing has been disenfranchising voters since their inception.

Sanity -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 9:51:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic WOuld be nice if Bush had lesser numbers of illegals coming in Bush isnt running Hillary pandering to La Raza, a racist group of nationalist Mexicans founded by Nazis and bent on taking over parts of the United States through (at first) overwhelming peaceful but illegal immigration

mnottertail -> RE: Voting thoughts (7/23/2015 10:55:36 AM)
It will go better for us than any of the rightwingers with their nazi base trying to take over America.

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