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mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 11:14:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

It proves nothing other than democrat intransigence and corruption.

Where are the emails motter? Next to Nixon's missing minutes?

Are they government emails?


yes, he was a state department employee. All emails are supposed to be archived into a FOIA repository.
And yet - they're not.



No, thats not true. There are many emails outside of that rule. Personal emails by example. No all to it. Again with the lies and the 'trust me'.





Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 1:17:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

It proves nothing other than democrat intransigence and corruption.

Where are the emails motter? Next to Nixon's missing minutes?

Are they government emails?


yes, he was a state department employee. All emails are supposed to be archived into a FOIA repository.
And yet - they're not.



No, thats not true. There are many emails outside of that rule. Personal emails by example. No all to it. Again with the lies and the 'trust me'.





Wrong. All emails sent or received on government email servers are supposed to be government business; regardless of whether they are or are not the archive and FOIA request are not subject to discretion. Clinton claimed she had the statutory authority as SOS. She did not. But regardless that you think she did, it is certain that Paglianu did not.




Nnanji -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 1:49:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

It proves nothing other than democrat intransigence and corruption.

Where are the emails motter? Next to Nixon's missing minutes?

Are they government emails?


yes, he was a state department employee. All emails are supposed to be archived into a FOIA repository.
And yet - they're not.



No, thats not true. There are many emails outside of that rule. Personal emails by example. No all to it. Again with the lies and the 'trust me'.



Every government employee ever hired since the invention of the computer has been told, often officially a couple of times a year, that the computer and everything on it belongs to the government and is subject to public scrutiny, including private emails that don't really exist because nothing on a government system is private.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 1:55:43 PM)

wrong. There was no law to give private emails to the government. Paglianu could have written private emails or recieved them on that server.

Regardless of what you think the law might be, you would have to quote that law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 2:10:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

wrong. There was no law to give private emails to the government. Paglianu could have written private emails or recieved them on that server.

Regardless of what you think the law might be, you would have to quote that law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy

Once again your quote has nothing to do with your statement. Besides just inserting random links into your gibberish, why don't you quote sections you think are relevant.

In other words - how do you think sending government emails on a private server is equivalent to sending private emails on a government server?




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 2:15:06 PM)

equivalent.

My quote has everything to do with this, did Big nutsucker violate some law?

answer in these and other cases is no. There is no requirement to archive private emails in either case.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 2:19:45 PM)

I'm not going to bother looking up what should be obvious.

Here's what http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/clintons-email-and-the-privacy-privilege/ says

"“No one creating records on an official government network has an individual ‘privacy right’ to demand that their emails or e-records should be shielded beyond the reach of public access requests under FOI [Freedom of Information] laws, state or federal,” Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle and a former director of litigation at the National Archives, told us in an email.

State Department policy – spelled out in the Foreign Affairs Manual under “Points to Remember About E-mail” – says there is “no expectation of privacy.” Specifically, 5 FAM 443.5 says, in part: “Department E-mail systems are for official use only by authorized personnel” and “The information in the systems is Departmental, not personal. No expectation of privacy or confidentiality applies.”

proving once again.

You are wrong.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 2:28:48 PM)

And just to rub salt in the wound.

national records acta (NARA)
Title 36 → Chapter XII → Subchapter B → Part 1220

Its not the employee's responsibility to determine what records are archived and what are not. Its the purview of the office of the archivist.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 4:18:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

And just to rub salt in the wound.

national records acta (NARA)
Title 36 → Chapter XII → Subchapter B → Part 1220

Its not the employee's responsibility to determine what records are archived and what are not. Its the purview of the office of the archivist.


And to rub some more of your own shit in your face. We are not talking government records here. private emails are private emails.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 4:21:27 PM)

And because I find your stupid asswipe entertaining, what do you hear from your inside guy in the AG these days? How about the stuff on the server you combed thru and the 21 email addys? How about from the 147 FBI agents?

Are we coming around that corner yet?




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 4:24:08 PM)

There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business.




Nnanji -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 4:47:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business.

Are we talking Clinton the raper or Clinton the rape shamer?




bounty44 -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 5:08:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

wrong. There was no law to give private emails to the government. Paglianu could have written private emails or recieved them on that server.

Regardless of what you think the law might be, you would have to quote that law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy


Once again your quote has nothing to do with your statement. Besides just inserting random links into your gibberish, why don't you quote sections you think are relevant.

In other words - how do you think sending government emails on a private server is equivalent to sending private emails on a government server?


that is why I have repeatedly said, if he were a student, he'd fail, and if this were his job, he'd be fired.

I can only think that the sole satisfaction he gets out of the process is a place to practice his malevolence.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 5:37:47 PM)

I own my own business, you are a nutsucker working at some 'catholic' university of regressive learning. A welfare patient government paid. You don't have anything to teach me, not having the ability to pour piss out of your own boot. Your malevolence is plain for all to see, you want to destroy America.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 6:45:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business.

Are we talking Clinton the raper or Clinton the rape shamer?


No, we are talking wilbur the nutsucker and his band of merry felchers. It is English, try to keep up, I know nutsuckers are supporting child molestation, but this is different.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 6:47:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

wrong. There was no law to give private emails to the government. Paglianu could have written private emails or recieved them on that server.

Regardless of what you think the law might be, you would have to quote that law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy


Once again your quote has nothing to do with your statement. Besides just inserting random links into your gibberish, why don't you quote sections you think are relevant.

In other words - how do you think sending government emails on a private server is equivalent to sending private emails on a government server?


that is why I have repeatedly said, if he were a student, he'd fail, and if this were his job, he'd be fired.

I can only think that the sole satisfaction he gets out of the process is a place to practice his malevolence.


The fact that you teach anything beyond cockgargling puts your diploma at a 'no child left behind' quota skin.




Phydeaux -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 8:53:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I'm not going to bother looking up what should be obvious.

Here's what http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/clintons-email-and-the-privacy-privilege/ says

"“No one creating records on an official government network has an individual ‘privacy right’ to demand that their emails or e-records should be shielded beyond the reach of public access requests under FOI [Freedom of Information] laws, state or federal,” Jason R. Baron, a lawyer at Drinker Biddle and a former director of litigation at the National Archives, told us in an email.

State Department policy – spelled out in the Foreign Affairs Manual under “Points to Remember About E-mail” – says there is “no expectation of privacy.” Specifically, 5 FAM 443.5 says, in part: “Department E-mail systems are for official use only by authorized personnel” and “The information in the systems is Departmental, not personal. No expectation of privacy or confidentiality applies.”

proving once again.

You are wrong.


Nobody really gives a rats ass what the shyster Jason R Baron says. It proves that you are really toiletlicking, and gobbling felch like there is no tomorrow. She didnt demand shit, she deleted her private emails.

Department E-mail systems are for official use only by authorized personnel” and “The information in the systems is Departmental, not personal. No expectation of privacy or confidentiality applies.”

Just a few laughs before I call you out as the fucking imbecile you are. You are wrong again, there is no law about private emails having to be turned over. It doesnt appear that she was on a department server, or didn't you get the email? The statement here from the manual seems to be at odds with your other cockgargling in that if there is no expectation of privacy, then they will be playing any kind of hell to get up any secrets transferring laws, hah?

So, once again imbecile, you have been proven by your own words a liar, there is no such law, and secondly, you put up some asswipe that has nothing to do with the topic, a shithouse lawyer and then a quote that says nothing about nothing, and are all jacking your dick like you are some good little boy, when in fact, you showed that you are in epic fail wrongness.



Snicker transparent attempt to change the goal posts. We're talking about Bryan Paglianu's emails, on the state department server.
LOLOLOL




BamaD -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/10/2016 10:20:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business.

Are we talking Clinton the raper or Clinton the rape shamer?


No, we are talking wilbur the nutsucker and his band of merry felchers. It is English, try to keep up, I know nutsuckers are supporting child molestation, but this is different.

You know no such thing, most conservatives believe that child molesters should be introduced to a fire ant hill, tar and feathers, or a low fire. Your repeated slanderous accusations display your total lack of knowlege of those you disagree with.




mnottertail -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/11/2016 6:58:51 AM)

Why do you project your deficiencies on others? You lack an inability to converse meaningfully, only capable of parroting nutsucker slobber blogs, no facts, no reason, conceptually dumbfounded, and have no use of the language.

I wonder if you cowardly and entirely unremarkable boys can find a sack to sew on, cuz you certainly are without one.




Nnanji -> RE: Hillary Probed (5/11/2016 1:36:49 PM)

FR

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/279552-fbi-head-challenges-clinton-on-email-probe




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