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GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 8:45:33 AM

joether

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According to President Obama the GOP share more in common with the Iranian hardliners than oppose. An I agree with him!

Commonalities:

A ) The hate the other's country.
B ) They hate the people of the other country.
C ) They wrap themselves in their home country's flag.
D ) Belief they are incapable of being wrong.
E ) Hate Gays, Liberals, Democrats, and anyone with Peaceful thoughts.
F ) Want all the power, and run things like a dictatorship.
G ) Tell the people of their country they are the only choice to be in power.
H ) The ends justify the means.
I ) Torture is totally 'OK' so long as they aren't being tortured.
K ) State they are oppressed by vile forces (i.c. sane people wish to keep them from having power).
L ) Worship dark powers while stating they worship God.
M ) See money as the end goal in life, not a tool to be used in life.
N ) Send their nation's military to battle the other, but will not take a direct role in any fighting (i.e. cowards).

O ) They want war with the other and will do....ANYTHING...to achieve it. Including torpedoing any treaties.

I'm sure I and others can keep adding to the list. These are people that want war, death, and destruction. They care nothing for mutual understanding, or peace. Since there are many in Iran that would like nuclear power, but for energy needs, not hostile needs. The Iran Treaty (which most of you still have not read) explains how that can be achieved. During the FOX 'debate' (more a press conference with GOP talking heads) just about every candidate stated they want war with Iran. And they are more than happy to send our military into a meat grinder to achieve it. They hate compassion, caring, and kindness. They have no humility, honor, or decency. To them, the opposing country is dangerous because of (insert any of fifty reasons here). Most of those reasons, the Iranian Hardliners could say of the USA.

If there is a reason to vote Democrat, here it is: The GOP want WAR, and don't give a shit at the cost. They'll even manufacture 'facts' if the real ones aren't sufficiently convincing people. The GOP is not to be trusted.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 9:36:41 AM

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never minding that theres a fair amount of democrats who don't buy into the iran nuclear deal either---in so much as practically nothing you wrote there is true concerning republicans, im not sure how you can be so shameless as to show your lack of integrity in public.

you are absolutely, and embarrassingly laughable. I am not sure how you look at yourself in the mirror each day.

whats more, given your constant irrational if not outright delusional posts, I seriously believe you need psychological help.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 9:48:16 AM

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says the man who claimed libs/dems are like Islam oh and nazis...
pot calling the kettle grimy ass.
laughable
mind you Joe...this OP is just as bad as bountys posting bullshit
sorry
while I think the hardliners(not naming names) are warmongering pigs, I know there are more who dont buy their shit...

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 10:51:39 AM

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quote:

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never minding that theres a fair amount of democrats who don't buy into the iran nuclear deal either---in so much as practically nothing you wrote there is true concerning republicans, im not sure how you can be so shameless as to show your lack of integrity in public.

you are absolutely, and embarrassingly laughable. I am not sure how you look at yourself in the mirror each day.

whats more, given your constant irrational if not outright delusional posts, I seriously believe you need psychological help.

The fact that much of the opposition comes from Republicans makes Obama, and Joe, think anything they say about the opposition is ok. First they lie and call this a treaty, it isn't, it is an "executive agreement" thus it has no legal standing. Second opposition is based not on agreement with the hard liners but rather the belief that when they say they intend to destroy the US (and Israel) they mean it.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 12:05:15 PM

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Dunno if you guys have noticed, but we really haven't been in a strong enough position to get a really 'good' treaty out of Iran in a long damn time. If we ever were.

Maybe this is as good as it gets for now. And it's more direct contact and negotiation than we've had with Iran since maybe the Carter administration.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 1:35:39 PM

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Dunno if you guys have noticed, but we really haven't been in a strong enough position to get a really 'good' treaty out of Iran in a long damn time. If we ever were.

Maybe this is as good as it gets for now. And it's more direct contact and negotiation than we've had with Iran since maybe the Carter administration.

That is like saying that someone is threatening you with a knife, wants you to give him a shotgun, but since he accepts a handgun you should be happy with the deal.
Chamberlain would have loved that argument.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 1:51:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Dunno if you guys have noticed, but we really haven't been in a strong enough position to get a really 'good' treaty out of Iran in a long damn time. If we ever were.

Maybe this is as good as it gets for now. And it's more direct contact and negotiation than we've had with Iran since maybe the Carter administration.

That is like saying that someone is threatening you with a knife, wants you to give him a shotgun, but since he accepts a handgun you should be happy with the deal.
Chamberlain would have loved that argument.

Right. And in the 3 day waiting period, as we process the paperwork for your shiny new handgun, I'm going to send UN inspectors to your house to make sure you aren't trying to build that shotgun. And if you do, I have plenty of ammo that would just go out of date if I didn't use it on you anyway.

And I can follow your gun comparison, but wtf does basketball have to do with anything?

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 2:56:48 PM

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It's the same group of Clowns who ran us into IRAQ and cost the USA $1 Trillion Dollars in money pissed down the drain. There really does not seem to be much realism on the Right, nor a candidate capable of bringing "the base" up. Posters here think trump is "telling the truth" b/c he's not afraid of the "PC Police," but his facts are wrong. The guy is a birther, for christ-sake.

Right wing fallacies:

Immigration causes unemployment and depresses wages.
Cutting taxes is a way of cutting deficits.
Forcing women to have babies is a policy that could actually be implemented in the USA circa 2015.
Climate Change is a conspiracy.
Obama is trying to take away everyone's guns.
Defaulting on the Debt would have helped the USA.
We can pay for the national highways system by cutting funding for the ARTS.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 4:13:59 PM

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Well, now that we have that settled. This means WAR.

Who here is running right down and signing up ? Anybody ?

Call this what you want but the alternative is an Iranian bomb in a few months (thanx to W and allowing near the current 19000 centrifuges) which means war, which is what the right always wants. See IRAQ/Afghan.

Then come all of the others that then claim they will need a bomb of their own but hey...ducking right behind American carriers, claiming...don't ask us to actually fight anybody over this shit.

Let the profits roll in baby dolls.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 6:12:52 PM

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Coming from President Obama, this means absolutely nothing.

According to him, this is a good deal, despite the facts, so forgive me for not believing a fucking word he speaks.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 6:36:31 PM

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Hey, numnuts, its an international agreement -- and the early foundations where laid by GWB. Germany, led by a highly conservative government is on board.

Are you saying you want to have another IRAQ WAR II waged by a bunch of ignorant, chickenhawks?

You know not everything is about "Obama," sometimes its about the US and other countries.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 6:57:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

quote:

ORIGINAL: JVoV

Dunno if you guys have noticed, but we really haven't been in a strong enough position to get a really 'good' treaty out of Iran in a long damn time. If we ever were.

Maybe this is as good as it gets for now. And it's more direct contact and negotiation than we've had with Iran since maybe the Carter administration.

That is like saying that someone is threatening you with a knife, wants you to give him a shotgun, but since he accepts a handgun you should be happy with the deal.
Chamberlain would have loved that argument.

Right. And in the 3 day waiting period, as we process the paperwork for your shiny new handgun, I'm going to send UN inspectors to your house to make sure you aren't trying to build that shotgun. And if you do, I have plenty of ammo that would just go out of date if I didn't use it on you anyway.

And I can follow your gun comparison, but wtf does basketball have to do with anything?

We are saying we don't want you to have nukes so we are going to make it easier for you to get them if you promise not to for 10 years.
It isn't a treaty, it is an executive agreement, not the same thing at all.
It is another king-like move rather than the act of a president.
The Iranians still say they are going to destroy us.
Now if they keep their word (fat chance since they say they have no reason to keep their word to infidels ) would you rather fight them when they have nukes or when they don't.
No 3 day waiting period here.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 7:05:51 PM

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Merkel is left of the Green party. Conservative my ass, highly even more off my bum.

Germany is a total disaster Zone. Just waiting to see which bomb is blowing up that country.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 7:07:09 PM

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how ignorant of reality are people who think this is obama. it ignores other countries input, needs, problems, puts down all other diplomats, outside and inside the UN , but no, this is obama only issue.
You cant argue with them. they always block off information they cant argue with, "but Obama"
The fact that its been put down as a solution to anything to do with Iran with war mongers on the right says they only want war.
Fucking douchebags

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 7:32:54 PM

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Ultimately, I believe it will be up to Iran whether there is a war or not. The US and our allies can only decide when.

Right now, we have little to risk by attempting diplomacy, at least to delay what's probably inevitable.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 7:45:53 PM

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how ignorant of reality are people who think this is obama. it ignores other countries input, needs, problems, puts down all other diplomats, outside and inside the UN , but no, this is obama only issue.
You cant argue with them. they always block off information they cant argue with, "but Obama"
The fact that its been put down as a solution to anything to do with Iran with war mongers on the right says they only want war.
Fucking douchebags

Keep attacking the posters (because you got nothing else)

Or I suppose you think your queen negotiated this gigantic giveaway to the Iranian radicals.

Bad news for your queen then, top Jewish Dems are telling her to kiss their asses

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/250572-liberals-go-to-war-with-schumer-for-iran-opposition

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/08/breaking-rep-engel-is-second-major-jewish-democrat-to-oppose-obamas-nuclear-deal-with-iran/

Why do you fight so hard for Iran anyway, when they are horrendous regarding womens rights, gay rights etc

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 7:54:35 PM

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Ultimately, I believe it will be up to Iran whether there is a war or not. The US and our allies can only decide when.

Right now, we have little to risk by attempting diplomacy, at least to delay what's probably inevitable.

We could have continued to punish their nuclear program work and their funding terror and their proxie wars by doing nothing

This deal rewards that behavior

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 8:00:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Ultimately, I believe it will be up to Iran whether there is a war or not. The US and our allies can only decide when.

Right now, we have little to risk by attempting diplomacy, at least to delay what's probably inevitable.

Again you are following the path of the West in the 30's, use diplomacy give the Axis time to get stronger, don't fight till they want to.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 8:30:30 PM

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It gives us time to recover from 2 wars that aren't quite finished or paid for yet too.

It would be difficult to convince the American people that invading Iran is justifiable without a direct attack on us or our allies. It will be much more difficult to convince the UN.

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RE: GOP = Iranian Hardliners - 8/7/2015 8:40:23 PM

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You know, seems to me that our friends on the left are the one's screaming about war with Iran. I don't remember, although it is possible, that our friends on the rigt having said it.

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