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RemoteUser -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/8/2015 9:25:14 PM)

*puts on some elevator music and taps his foot*

Listen, Matt, there is no way to lose an account. Hide, yes. Suppress. Lock out. Even delete. If you've ever run a database, you know this. I run and build multiple databases every week at my work. Nothing is ever lost, only transformed or removed.

Same for pics and messages. It's possible for things to appear "missing" at the front end, but if you've ever worked the back end, you know as well as I do that something which is not visible to a set class of users with controlled access only means that they don't have access.

It's easy to say a person is incompetent, because that's only an opinion, and to date you haven't backed up one statement with a presentation of facts or examples. Opinions are a dime a dozen, but facts - like what I stated above in regards to database management - those actually carry weight. If you want to make a point, why come out swinging so lightly?

Software architecture isn't constricted to applications, it's a measure of structural integrity at various levels, or in layman's terms, when I run this program will it do what I want, or what I told it to do? After all, a program is only as good as the programmer, in every language. An application is a task-based program with a purpose, but sites don't run on automated tasks alone. Then again...you knew that, right? Speaking of languages, COBOL is dead, friend. Dead like BASIC. I know both languages and wrote software in both. I do not know of any system created from scratch in this decade sporting either language, if you do by all means...enlighten me. Otherwise, you're handing out a resume that might as well tell a modern corporation that you remember Lotus 1-2-3 when they need Microsoft Office 2013. Assembler is still used for low-grade projects, and not for website construction. C is not common in North America, where the servers for this site are. Maybe C++ or a mocked-up copy of SQL, like the customized Foxpro language introduced years ago. (Do you know Foxpro? It's a pretty thing and awesome for databases. Look it up.) ABAP is over 30 years old and might - might! - still be used productively in Europe, where it was born. RPG is the spawn of COBOL that still delights card punching machines in museums, but unless you speak RPG IV, you're not really in the current scheme of things.

That, by the way, is another delightful example of presenting factual arguments, as opposed to opinionated ones.

As to how to make the site PERK and POP and shine like a freshly-oiled set of melons, well now. That's for the owner to decide as to which direction he wants to go. Remember, it's his ball, you're allowed to play here but the ball goes home with him. If he doesn't want you to write on it in marker, then don't. If you think he's a doo-doo head for taking the ball home early then by all means, but kindly remember as you are doing so what level of maturity you're functioning at.

This brings us to, ta-da! Presentation. Ever open up a program someone else wrote and think, MY GOD, who put this impossible-to-read mess together? It's unprofessional! Yes, well...the same goes for the presentation of any idea. Many former corporate executives will gladly attest to the fact that, however good your idea is, if you present it poorly then no one, and I mean no one here, will care. Now scroll back and look, really look at what you said and what reactions it got. If you really care about things, then why sabotage yourself with a poor presentation? It might feel good to vent but if you totally destroy your own message, who are you going to blame, the audience? That's like telling a person who reacts badly to spaghetti programming that it's their fault for reading it.

I hope I've managed to get across the things you needed to hear at the level you needed to hear it. I have my doubts on that, I'm frankly expecting a poor reaction. However, your reactions are your own, whatever you think of what I said does not dictate what comes out of your mouth, nor does it dictate what you type. Think on that, dude.

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Wayward5oul -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/8/2015 9:32:35 PM)

^^ great post. and peace out too




ResidentSadist -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/8/2015 9:54:18 PM)

RemoteUser . . . I have looked at the CollarSpace and Collarchat technology profiles and I didn't noticed a monitor running. I know that if I had a java problem, I would want helper tools like New Relic to report the problems so I could fix them. I sent you a link in the mail on the other side. I think New Relic Lite is free but I am not familiar with its free feature set.




RemoteUser -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/8/2015 10:09:01 PM)

Thanks! I just glanced through the site, New Relic has some good creds but the software isn't free. They've got the right tools to keep the Java clean and running smooth, but so do several other companies. I know a few people I can ask about other options - it never hurts to do some pricing and comparisons. I'll get with them over the weekend.

You can bet that any sample software will have restrictions too tight to gauge real-time functionality (unless you have a lot of spare time and like to break down compiled code - I have the interest but not, unfortunately, the time and well, truth be told, there are lots of other bits of code I'd love to rip up more). Let me get with a few heavyweights and see what's what.

There's also little factors like, well, what the owner wants and how practical it is to bring in third-party software to monitor site functionality (as well as how well it plays with others, some types of software just refuse to work together).

But in terms of things that could be brought to the table for what could give our dear Collar a boost in terms of user functionality, I would agree wholeheartedly that there are a few things that could be reviewed and considered, at the very least. [:)]




BitaTruble -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 1:58:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SirMatty1



I have and can't find any rational for what you guys are doing.




This is just a guess.. but .. Jessicabot. It was sort of like WaterGate. Those of us who were
around at the time, I'm sure, will not forget the loads of spam that members were getting from
that particular AI program.

The forums were no more immune from the Dread Pirate Jessica than the email boxes on the
other side. Thread after thread started by spambots. Mass quantities of emails being poured
in as profile after profile was created in this onebot bitches plan to take over the world.

She almost succeeded except the Powers that Be decided to institute posting and emailing limits
which were found to be more in keeping with what humans would actually be able to do.

I don't know for sure but as someone who was here then and a regular contributor to this side
I would guess that even if that isn't the main reason for limits, bots in the way back were a
continual source of annoyance and were effecting the place more than the throttle.

Just a guess though.. as I said although subsequent to that was captcha so it makes some sense.
Another secondary layer put in for fuller access to the joint and, honestly, bots really are not
an issue anymore although scammers abound.. at least they are .. um.. human. I think.






UllrsIshtar -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 2:22:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SirMatty1

How Stupid are the Admins here?


Very stupid.

(That's what you wanted to hear, right?)




MercTech -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 5:45:15 AM)

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".




sloguy02246 -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 7:30:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".



And don't forget the "I have and can't find any rational for what you guys are doing" should have been "rationale."




Wayward5oul -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 7:43:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".



And don't forget the "I have and can't find any rational for what you guys are doing" should have been "rationale."

Yeah, and even when I tried to point it out, he kept blathering on about how many languages he knows, and continued to throw insults around. Then , I guess because he had already made such an ass of himself in English, he decided to start posting in German, throwing insults and implied that there was room for discussion on 'loose' and 'lose'.








Wayward5oul -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 7:47:00 AM)

And never mind that he originally posted this in "Positive Experiences".

Language and reading comprehension fail on so many levels...yet everyone else is stupid.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 7:56:53 AM)

deleted for pointlessness, not unlike the op.




Lucylastic -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 9:26:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


quote:

ORIGINAL: sloguy02246


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".



And don't forget the "I have and can't find any rational for what you guys are doing" should have been "rationale."

Yeah, and even when I tried to point it out, he kept blathering on about how many languages he knows, and continued to throw insults around. Then , I guess because he had already made such an ass of himself in English, he decided to start posting in German, throwing insults and implied that there was room for discussion on 'loose' and 'lose'.






I thought he fancied you!!!! you stood your own !!! you came out on top...congrats




Zonie63 -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 12:31:38 PM)

FR

I thought that this was going to be like that other thread with the fat jokes. Whenever someone asks how stupid someone is, a good response might be "How stupid is yo mama?" That can lead in to a whole slew of "Yo mama so stupid" jokes.

"Yo mama so stupid she put a quarter in a parking meter and waited for a gumball to pop out."
"Yo mama so stupid she put two quarters in her ear and said I'm listening to 50 Cent."




shiftyw -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/9/2015 6:39:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".


I can't believe it took this long to point this out.





NookieNotes -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/10/2015 4:25:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FelineRanger

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirMatty1

Wouldn't mind helping, but have you ever seen any request for help?



Have you bothered to ask? Granted, after your foot-stomping, breath-holding tantrum, it's a little late now.


To be fair, I've offered. Several times over the years. I've gotten no response.


quote:

ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
The fact you think a teenager can fix 16 years worth of data from a site that has 200,000 new visitors a month that made over 4,822,726 posts on the forums and countless millions of profiles . . .


It needs a new "side" that will combine the best of what technology currently has to offer with links to "original" accounts. Then, a specified time period of, say, 6 months to mover over any past content, or edit "original accounts. Then, ideally, those "original" links will be left running (and showable by choice) on your personal account for up to two years, while everyone builds onto the new system.

UX/UI could be easily and greatly improved in this way, as well as other options for "verified" membership, or paid memberships (for perks above and beyond what is there now, such as "featured, more photos, etc.), and this site could turn more of a profit.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/10/2015 1:17:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

This thread lost me when it was blatantly obvious the originator didn't know the difference in "loose" and "lose".


I can't believe it took this long to point this out.




I did at the beginning, but then edited it out of guilt at being a grammar/spelling nazi [:D]
Sure did make the OP look extra whiny, didn't it!




ResidentSadist -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/10/2015 2:44:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

............UX/UI could be easily and greatly improved in this way, as well as other options for "verified" membership, or paid memberships (for perks above and beyond what is there now, such as "featured, more photos, etc.), and this site could turn more of a profit.


That pretty much sums up the business outline I submitted to him through a third party. Pretty standard stuff really. I just don't know if he ever really saw it.




ShaharThorne -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/10/2015 10:35:26 PM)

I kept my tongue still as well. People need remedial language arts or a quick hit to the head with a dictionary...jmo..




MrRodgers -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/11/2015 1:12:55 AM)

For the pittance I pay for my Internet service and for the experience I enjoy from it, it is these sites and the fact that there is no charge, that really help...make it all worthwhile.

Yes, I have had problems like an old profile and all my goodies gone but for the value, I'll take it...worts and all.




NookieNotes -> RE: How Stupid are the Admins here? (8/11/2015 6:55:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

quote:

ORIGINAL: NookieNotes

............UX/UI could be easily and greatly improved in this way, as well as other options for "verified" membership, or paid memberships (for perks above and beyond what is there now, such as "featured, more photos, etc.), and this site could turn more of a profit.


That pretty much sums up the business outline I submitted to him through a third party. Pretty standard stuff really. I just don't know if he ever really saw it.



That's the rub, right? No response = no clue whether there is anything getting through. Not that it matters. Their choice to do anything or nothing at all.




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