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ORIGINAL: Sanity

People on the left, personal attacks (and similar fallacies, derails, etc) is all they have. They cant (as a rule) cite facts, they cant use logic and reason to support their ideas and their ideology

Blows up in their face every time, then they feel like they have to make it personal rather that concede a point

It was surprising to me that JV)V was civil, and a lefty while it lasted, but it wasnt a surprise to see him fall into the same familiar pattern that most leftists adhere to, which is making every thread and every topic personal

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His career was damaged by his antics and so is the message these radicals sent by their antics. Who are they preaching too... not themselves...I would think it is us... they need to make us understand their position and its validity. To me the actions of many blacks over the last year has just hardened non-black negative opinion that was at first with them.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

People on the left, personal attacks (and similar fallacies, derails, etc) is all they have. They cant (as a rule) cite facts, they cant use logic and reason to support their ideas and their ideology

Blows up in their face every time, then they feel like they have to make it personal rather that concede a point

It was surprising to me that JV)V was civil, and a lefty while it lasted, but it wasnt a surprise to see him fall into the same familiar pattern that most leftists adhere to, which is making every thread and every topic personal

I won't apologize for an off-kilter sense of humor. I do regret bounty feeling attacked, because that was not my intention, and I have already messaged him privately to apologize.

But now that you mention it, I suppose I've gotten comfortable enough here that I've stopped filtering as I had.

I disagree with the rest of your commentary on the matter, though I'll leave it at that for now.

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actually your view is consistant for oh , the past four years at least...I suspect a lifetime.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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actually your view is consistant for oh , the past four years at least...I suspect a lifetime.

It is and typical of my peers and generation... I would venture to say it is typical of the majority of white males in this country...just an opinion of course but measured by people I meet and talk with in many areas of this country.

If I am wrong in my opinions and views, and I freely admit I may very well be, I am open to change... Just give me valid evidence where I have in my professional life or private one for that matter, been prejudiced in my dealings with people of any race.... I am fair minded and typical and if I see where I have injured anyone physically or financially because of their race then I believe the majority will see it as well and make changes.

But what is going on in the name of black equality today is not showing me that... and I do want to be shown...even if you do not believe me.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

That is not true Lucy...I just see three different groups of people... One... thugs in Ferguson...two... honest protesters without direction allowing a radical minority to take over their grievances... three... the African Americans that I work with and live in my racially mixed neighborhood and their opinions expressed to me. That is where my judgement is made and I stand by it until...with reason... I am shown differently.

From these threads many seem to think all blacks... even the majority...are comfortable with the antics of black radicals in this country... My experience, and all I can go by... is they are not.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

Rodney King died in 2012 as result of accidental drowning, although alcohol, cocaine, marijuana and PCP found in his system were likely contributing factors. This was 11 years after his violent arrest in Los Angeles.

I've apologized to bounty, and I sincerely hope he understands my intent was not malicious. It was a mental reaction after his statement, not an accusation towards him, and I would regret him not seeing that.

But you feel free to distort the truth as you please. Seems to be a recurring theme.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Looters...shooters...arsonists... those beating up reporters and destroying property...those throwing frozen water bottles, rocks, and bottles full of gasoline. Those that put the sick and injured at risk by blocking emergency vehicles by refusing to move out of the street...those spitting in the faces of police.... those baiting police by telling them they will kill and rape their families...do I need to go on... I've other examples.

You must understand the above is not a small minority,...but a significant number of those on the streets. You may not know this unless you were from the area and see this all the time or privy to actual testimony of officers on the line as I am.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

It is lawless... police are afraid at times to do their duty out of fear for their jobs and thugs have been enabled with this knowledge. Just check out the surge in black crime in the area... but of course somewhere somehow it is my fault... yours too by the way simply because you are white.

Butch

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Look at Baltimore.

Two hundred homicides so far in 2015, and if the 2014 pattern holds then 90% of the victims will be black again this year, presumably due to genocidal police and white racists.

K.