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ORIGINAL: kdsub

St. Louis has half the population and as of July 13 there were 92 black murders...I am pretty sure we are well over a hundred today... This includes men women and children as young as 3. Property crime and assaults are up as well... There was even a hijacking last week where the perpetrators were two 15 year old...a 13 year old and a SIX year old. Finally their parents were sited for contributing to the delinquency of a minor...about damn time.

Two 15 year old black boys were shot in the chest in Ferguson at 2:30 in the morning Where were their damn excuse for parents.

An 18 year old shot at police and was critically wounded... His mother and grandmother and his friends claim he was unarmed...never ever had a gun... But a video of the incident has emerged showing him armed and shooting at police... His Facebook shows him with a gun... he was arrested in the past for stealing a car and a gun... What is the matter with these damn people!...oh i forgot....Me...and you.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Bama I'm angry...I can tell that others here are as well... or at least frustrated by the hypocrisy of blacks and there unfounded accusations. I want an equal society and many here would call me a social liberal that believes in the guarantee of equal opportunity. But I also believe in personal responsibility for yourself and your family. I do not see this in Ferguson.. I see children killing children while their parents refuse to supervise them. I see children allowed to skip school and an attitude that if you study hard your are acting white. Sure people will say prove it...will just look at the attendance and support for education in black dominated communities. People refuse to report crime or cooperate with police... They complain that they are heavily fined in court when all they have to do IS NOT COMMIT A VIOLATION or crime.

I could go on... but all it would do is paint me racists in the minds of people that are not having to deal with this lunacy... They set back and blame others when the blame is with the very people protesting.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Bama I'm angry...I can tell that others here are as well... or at least frustrated by the hypocrisy of blacks and there unfounded accusations. I want an equal society and many here would call me a social liberal that believes in the guarantee of equal opportunity. But I also believe in personal responsibility for yourself and your family. I do not see this in Ferguson.. I see children killing children while their parents refuse to supervise them. I see children allowed to skip school and an attitude that if you study hard your are acting white. Sure people will say prove it...will just look at the attendance and support for education in black dominated communities. People refuse to report crime or cooperate with police... They complain that they are heavily fined in court when all they have to do IS NOT COMMIT A VIOLATION or crime.

I could go on... but all it would do is paint me racists in the minds of people that are not having to deal with this lunacy... They set back and blame others when the blame is with the very people protesting.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.splcenter.org/20100126/terror-right

...not that I expect many participants of this thread to be swayed by evidence, but one never knows.

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ORIGINAL: StWrinklemeat

Apparently, the nutsuckers are still listening to the foolish alzheimers riddled dildo, factless, hallucinatory, vacuous, and moronic as usual, selling us out to China.

the top ten prosperous countries:

1. Norway
2. Switzerland
3. New Zealand
4 Denmark
5 Canada
6 Sweden
7 Austrailia
8 Finland
9 Netherlands

10 US

All socialist countries. Remember, the nutsuckers can now say WERE NUMBER 10!!! and we got you there, in a few more years we will have you less than Mexico.

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.splcenter.org/20100126/terror-right

...not that I expect many participants of this thread to be swayed by evidence, but one never knows.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

Hmmmm...a list of EXTREME right wing terror activities published by a group that is struggling to survive.

Are you referring to the Southern Profitable Lies Center?

K.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: Staleek

I'll just leave this here...

https://www.splcenter.org/20100126/terror-right

...not that I expect many participants of this thread to be swayed by evidence, but one never knows.

Hmmmm...a list of EXTREME right wing terror activities published by a group that is struggling to survive. And this has WHAT to do with Bernie Sanders? Or Ferguson, for that matter?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


What is your proposed solution?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


What is your proposed solution?

the only sollutions they are interested in are being able to whinge aloud, while sitting on their asses and not wanting to see the inequality and truth behind the police brutality . How can they when they cant see anything but their own point of view. If you do something wrong, now you deserve to be shot/harmed/choked/strangled/shot in the back while unarmed.
THey have no desire to help, be part of the solution , just that everyone leave them alone and stop bothering their perfect lives. Thus being part of the problem.
considering the history of the US, protest is good isnt it??
or is that just reserved for white protestant puritans and their descendants.
I see nobody has brought up the white kid killed by a cop who shot him in the back twice.
Hardly anyone mentioned the bikers murders
They blame everything on a lack of personal responsibility, and wont accept, that personal responsibility has been a lie for decades.

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...Straw Man is one of the commonest of fallacies. It is endemic in public debates on politics, ethics, and religion. A straw man argument occurs in the context of a debate―formal or informal―when one side attacks a position―the "straw man"―not held by the other side, then acts as though the other side's position has been refuted.

This fallacy is a type of Red Herring because the arguer is attempting to refute the other side's position, and in the context is required to do so, but instead attacks a position not held by the other side. The arguer argues to a conclusion that denies the "straw man", but misses the target. There may be nothing wrong with the argument presented by the arguer when it is taken out of context, that is, it may be a perfectly good argument against the straw man. It is only because the burden of proof is on the arguer to argue against the opponent's position that a Straw Man fallacy is committed. So, the fallacy is not simply the argument, but the entire situation of the argument occurring in such a context.

...

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Merely opinion to respond to cloudboy...I could give a shit about what you think. its laughable.
We know you understand what strawmen are, you make them with almost every post.

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adverb & adjective
adverb: ad hominem; adjective: ad hominem

1.(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"

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