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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:33:10 AM   
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I'll tell you why Lucy, it's called liability. Private businesses get sued and lose money, lose jobs, lose contracts, lose land. The feds? Nothing happens to them, except maybe a bigger budget next year.

Try telling that to BP oil, Exxon, any mine management company and basically any mining company. oh and frackers.. They sure dont give a hell about the people around ther lil "oopsies" how long is it since the oil spill in the gulf....how much did they get fined for , how much did they take it down. If they cant handle their liability and stick to safe conduct in ANYTHING< then they bloody should be liable. for far more than what they are getting away with now.
You want a stable society for your grandkids..scream about the deficit being paid off by the future generations, wheres your grandkid gonna live and drink with all these assholes NOT wanting to accept responsibility poisoning the world, one mine at a time, one oil spill, one train derailment.
not to mention the banks, how many have paid...how many have been jailed...how many have even admitted any wrong doing.

They are the shafting bastards paying for your politicians. Who love to cut everything they dont believe in.
How do you think people like the kochs are paying out nearly a billion for their choice of candidate...
greed n corruption .....its the only way...yayyyyyy




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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:33:27 AM   
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No, its not you moron!


There you go luce, THATS what a personal attack looks like

(Fairly obvious that it is a part of a leftists DNA, somehow)

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:36:25 AM   
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Exactly
Nobody gives a shit about how the mine was dangerous as hell but oooooh the EPA caused it.

EPA Bad for not knowing how dangerous it is...
the "CLOSE Em Down". idiots know nothing.


She angrily typed, on her computer made of metal and plastic...

what has that got to do with the topic....why are you attacking me???



Because he doesn't have an argument. He doesn't realize that most keyboards are made of 100% recyclable materials. That the EPA has limited powers on the recycling of materials going into landfills. All it takes is an act of Congress. Right now, Congress is owned by the 'Do Nothing' Republican/Tea Party. If he was being truly honest and factual, he would be demanding the EPA have more powers, rather than less. Which shows his hypocrisy.


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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:39:26 AM   
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"Because he doesn't have an argument. "

"Which shows his hypocrisy."



Stopped clocks, and all that

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:41:10 AM   
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The EPA is at war against Americans, American businesses, and especially consumers.

They should be a business partner. Instead, they are shifting the mission from ‘protect and serve’ to ‘punish and profit’


The EPA was created by the nutsucker goon and thug Dick Nixon. The famous jobs bill of some years ago by the nutsucker goons and thugs led off with a bill that would allow uncontrolled rat poison and pesticides in American drinking water, it appears as though the nutsucker faction of the EPA is running a false flag operation.

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:47:54 AM   
Lucylastic


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Exactly
Nobody gives a shit about how the mine was dangerous as hell but oooooh the EPA caused it.

EPA Bad for not knowing how dangerous it is...
the "CLOSE Em Down". idiots know nothing.


She angrily typed, on her computer made of metal and plastic...

what has that got to do with the topic....why are you attacking me???



Pointing out the ironic humor of your post, as regards the topic isnt "attacking" you. If I were attacking you, it would look more like the leftist in the other thread who claimed he could imagine someone masturbating to the death of someone of a different race...

Breaking it down for you a little further, many parts of your computer are composed of materials that were mined. Its just always funny to see leftists hatefully attacking mining and "big oil" on products they wouldnt have without mining and "big oil"



troll...you were attacking me......troll troll troll.


SO because i use a computer made of plastic, and metal, I am a hypocrite....LOL fair enough but no more than anyone else in north america...Im aware of the bullshit and trying to change it, you just sit there and let it happen. you just see it as a challenge to your "freedom......
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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:49:19 AM   
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No, its not you moron!

There you go luce, THATS what a personal attack looks like

(Fairly obvious that it is a part of a leftists DNA, somehow)


Your 'side' has been insulting me for the better part of a year and more (I got the evidence that proves it). That you have not....ONCE....told those attacking me (whom share the same political views as you do) to stop it, is....ALSO....noted here (Got the evidence here too). That you have chipped in and insulted me long before now (evidence here too). Got evidence that states otherwise? That is both equals and exceeds mine?

No, you don't. They are guilty and you are guilty.

So yes *****Ah ah! That's not allowed. Be nice or be moderated!***** , maybe you should consider history before opening your mouth on this pathetic attempt to slam me while playing the victim card. Because its been noted many times before, that when those on the right cease to have a real argument, they resort to name calling. And that exhaustion of intellectual ammunition doesn't take long on most topics seen on this forum in the last year either. Doesn't matter if a 'righty' or 'lefty' starts the topic. After but a short while, your 'side' loses credibility. This comes shortly after all your arguments were destroyed, and you do not have a counter to any of our arguments.


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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:50:52 AM   
Lucylastic


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No, its not you moron!


There you go luce, THATS what a personal attack looks like

(Fairly obvious that it is a part of a leftists DNA, somehow)

did you whine to the mods yet?
btw...leftist DNA is a fairy tale...

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:54:19 AM   
joether


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"Because he doesn't have an argument. "

"Which shows his hypocrisy."

Stopped clocks, and all that


Is that your best shot?

Pathetic.....

This is not the Stormfront forum, Sanity. Were you can say right wing bullshit and expect not to be REALLY challenged for it. This forum, has people that challenge your bullshit all the time. Because it *IS* bullshit that you shovel. You get your panties in a wad when someone on the left does it. But its 'OK' for someone with your political viewpoint to do the same thing, right? WRONG!

When you 'look the other way' while the bullshit flows on your side of the political fence and do nothing; why should any of us take you seriously?

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 9:58:08 AM   
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No, its not you moron!


There you go luce, THATS what a personal attack looks like

(Fairly obvious that it is a part of a leftists DNA, somehow)

did you whine to the mods yet?
btw...leftist DNA is a fairy tale...


We are just metaphorical Adeptus Astartes in the political theater. Battling the equally metaphorical foe known as the Tyranid. Except for the 'Command and Control' at the very top of the political spectrum, the rest are just mindless animals.....


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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:09:42 AM   
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Come on Sanity. You know that the most transparent administration in the history of the US would never allow such a thing. They don't profit, the people do because the funds they collect can be used for greater enforcement and larger punishment of business large and small. They only serve one master, the one at the top of the food chain, you know, the one where the buck stops at his desk.


How about you go live in China or Russia with Sanity for a few years. Let us all know how 'amazing' those two nation's environmental standards are compared to the United States, OK?

The EPA serves the US Government. The US Government, serves the American people. This current president is more accountable and responsible with power than the last guy you and Sanity backed into public office. You can try all your petty attacks to diminish his efforts. And you will fail. Like you have been failing for the past seven years. Looking like morons for doing it too!



Go ahead Joe. I have written orders from our government that prohibit me from going.

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:16:24 AM   
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Come on Sanity. You know that the most transparent administration in the history of the US would never allow such a thing. They don't profit, the people do because the funds they collect can be used for greater enforcement and larger punishment of business large and small. They only serve one master, the one at the top of the food chain, you know, the one where the buck stops at his desk.

How about you go live in China or Russia with Sanity for a few years. Let us all know how 'amazing' those two nation's environmental standards are compared to the United States, OK?

The EPA serves the US Government. The US Government, serves the American people. This current president is more accountable and responsible with power than the last guy you and Sanity backed into public office. You can try all your petty attacks to diminish his efforts. And you will fail. Like you have been failing for the past seven years. Looking like morons for doing it too!

Go ahead Joe. I have written orders from our government that prohibit me from going.


What orders are these?

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:18:57 AM   
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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:26:36 AM   
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They contain a list of countries that I am not allowed to travel to. If you have a problem with them, I suggest you contact POTUS and have him reverse all such orders. Otherwise I wasn't interested in going to those countries anyway.


If your in China or Russia, how can the State Department get to you? Much less the Department of Justice? Neither country has an extradition treaty with the United States. Therefore the State nor Justice Departments can gain direct access to you.

I didn't say whether you wanted to or not, to venture to these places. I stated, go and live there. Since the point was to show you what happens when a nation has little to no environmental protections. Since you see to hate the EPA so much, even though America does not have many of the problems those two nations in their 'backyards'. I was giving you a chance to show all of us 'lefties' that the EPA is wrong and we should do away with it. Go with the Russian or Chinesse 'model'.

So keep up with the lame excuses and poor arguments on the EPA. They are amusing to counter!

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:32:29 AM   
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They contain a list of countries that I am not allowed to travel to. If you have a problem with them, I suggest you contact POTUS and have him reverse all such orders. Otherwise I wasn't interested in going to those countries anyway.


If your in China or Russia, how can the State Department get to you? Much less the Department of Justice? Neither country has an extradition treaty with the United States. Therefore the State nor Justice Departments can gain direct access to you.

I didn't say whether you wanted to or not, to venture to these places. I stated, go and live there. Since the point was to show you what happens when a nation has little to no environmental protections. Since you see to hate the EPA so much, even though America does not have many of the problems those two nations in their 'backyards'. I was giving you a chance to show all of us 'lefties' that the EPA is wrong and we should do away with it. Go with the Russian or Chinesse 'model'.

So keep up with the lame excuses and poor arguments on the EPA. They are amusing to counter!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought it was a suggestion not an order from on high. Ug Joe, who made you dictator?

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:48:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		What about the spill that they created in Colorado? Instead of going through the top of the mine to get the waste water drained out they went through the bottom and basically pulled the plug like you would in a bath tub. This happened Wednesday last week and here it is Tuesday nearly a week later and they STILL haven't stopped the leak. Now you can try and tell me that the water will be safe in a few weeks/months but what about long term? What about all the mercury and lead and arsenic in our water? If it had been a private company the EPA would be all over them, But they tried to not tell anyone, it was the Southern Ute Tribe that first said anything, and by then it was too late for those on well water and for those that need it for their farms and livestock. They still haven't released the reports of what all was dumped in our water (which is our drinking water) I'd much rather an oil spill happen than this.

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:53:30 AM   
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What about the spill that they created in Colorado? Instead of going through the top of the mine to get the waste water drained out they went through the bottom and basically pulled the plug like you would in a bath tub. This happened Wednesday last week and here it is Tuesday nearly a week later and they STILL haven't stopped the leak. Now you can try and tell me that the water will be safe in a few weeks/months but what about long term? What about all the mercury and lead and arsenic in our water? If it had been a private company the EPA would be all over them, But they tried to not tell anyone, it was the Southern Ute Tribe that first said anything, and by then it was too late for those on well water and for those that need it for their farms and livestock. They still haven't released the reports of what all was dumped in our water (which is our drinking water) I'd much rather an oil spill happen than this.

I have my doubts about the most transparent administration ever will ever tell us. Yes, I live down stream. May have to close Vegas, LA, Havasau, and make my commute longer to the doctors because the local ones on the river are gonna have to leave. Just theory, but has its possibilities.

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 10:56:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt too that we will ever know the truth but what bothers me the most is they won't stop the leak they have had plenty of time now and haven't do it. If this was BP they would fine them by the minute until they stopped the leak

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 11:00:11 AM   
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They contain a list of countries that I am not allowed to travel to. If you have a problem with them, I suggest you contact POTUS and have him reverse all such orders. Otherwise I wasn't interested in going to those countries anyway.


If your in China or Russia, how can the State Department get to you? Much less the Department of Justice? Neither country has an extradition treaty with the United States. Therefore the State nor Justice Departments can gain direct access to you.

I didn't say whether you wanted to or not, to venture to these places. I stated, go and live there. Since the point was to show you what happens when a nation has little to no environmental protections. Since you see to hate the EPA so much, even though America does not have many of the problems those two nations in their 'backyards'. I was giving you a chance to show all of us 'lefties' that the EPA is wrong and we should do away with it. Go with the Russian or Chinesse 'model'.

So keep up with the lame excuses and poor arguments on the EPA. They are amusing to counter!

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I thought it was a suggestion not an order from on high. Ug Joe, who made you dictator?


The EPA is exactly like the IRS, begun with good intentions but now a monstrous behemoth that is today being used by leftist extremists to further radical, unpopular agendas

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RE: EPA CREATED EMERGENCY - 8/11/2015 11:06:21 AM   
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did you whine to the mods yet?
btw...leftist DNA is a fairy tale...


You never hesitate to file tickets... hypocrite!

No, the last ticket I remember filing in this forum had to do with one of your far left troll friends using gay type insults, which everyone should "whine" about as you say

Including you

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