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Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 7:46:59 AM

Kayleigh133

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I have only recently met my first Dom.
He sought my out and new what I was long before I even did.
Our relationship is strong.
It goes between a daddy/little girl & master/slave bond
He has made his desire to urinate on me very clear.
I believe he desires it both for the humiliation factor but also the sense of ownership and marking his territory.
This would be a big step for me.
Please help my understand the experience.
Can it be pleasurable?

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 8:23:54 AM

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Ask him what it means to him, don't guess.
If it's marking his territory, that might be easier to handle if you don't do humiliation or degradation.

Physically it's warm water on you. Whether or not you would interpret it as pleasurable is your call.

Suggestion: try it the first time in the shower with the shower running. If he plans to do it anywhere else than the tub, make sure the urine won't stain the carpet or floor. Wood can absorb such odors and replacing the floor is no one's idea of fun. If he hasn't done this before, I doubt he's thought about that.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 11:51:21 AM

BitaTruble

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kayleigh133

Can it be pleasurable?

In a word.. absofuckinglutely. It's a matter of perspective. I wrote a journal note about the subject
not so long ago that I think illustrates the point well.

The 'Thing' about Housework

Let's take dishes as an example because that's my favorite chore. You get to start with water.
A fascinating element which I already speak about in one of my other journal entries. It's swirling
and clear and when the sun hits the sink through the window in front of me.. well, sometimes
there are rainbows. As the sink starts to fill with the beautiful, warm and flowing liquid glass..
you add in your blue or your green or that pale yellow almost the same color as saffron rice and
the bubbles rise.. a feast for your eyes harkening back to bubble baths in childhood days where
bubble hats and bubble beards were the order of the day. It doesn't take long before the scent
of fresh apples, lemons or oranges assault your nostrils so that they twitch and flare a bit from the
fine and wafting fragrance in subconscious attempt to eagerly inhale even more and hence satisfy
the gluttony of olfactory stimulation. Who can resist plunging their arms to the elbows to feel
those delightful, flower or fruit or even exotic scented bubbles envelop them. Your feet become
jealous with envy. Then.. the remnants of a service.. reminder of what you have already done
and what you have yet to do.. goals, purpose, point .. the plate almost clean from the flavor
already devoured .. but it needs more and I get to provide it in bubbled luxury with an end result
of being pristine .. proof of my care for the health of the next welcomed guest to partake of what
will be placed upon its surface. Glorious productivity, service with substance, tactile, warm, scented
.. what's not to like? It's a matter of perspective.. see? It's not the chore.. it's in how you perceive
your service to your Master and I choose to take joy from it.. it's rather the point for me.

This is just about dirty dishes. Imagine what my state of mind is when I'm trolling the fruits and
veggie section at the farmers market. ;) Imagine even more, where I am when the one who
controls me.. also controls the faucet.

Win/win. ;) Good luck, sweetie. I hope you find your bliss in the service as a choice to lessor
alternatives.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 12:12:00 PM

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I hate to be a downer here, and I don't mean to enforce a One Twue Way, but this is probably something you both should've negotiated before the a serious relationship dynamic came into play.

Sorry, but there's a big red flag here that concerns me. You just met your first Dom (and he knew you better than you did?), are now in a partial M/s dynamic, which tells me you're giving him a lot of control. Nothing wrong with that except he's trying to bring in kinks you don't know if you're comfortable with.

This one, yes, seems relatively harmless if you want to give it a shot. But what else will he introduce? There are a lot of inexperienced subs who come here, months or years into a M/s relationship and are in over their heads because their Masters are introducing dynamics that make them miserable and they have no way out. Don't become one of them.

I strongly recommend talking to your partner (as a PARTNER, not his lg, sub, slave, or anything else) about what your interests are, what his are, and establish some boundaries.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 12:21:34 PM

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Sure, it can be pleasurable- as can a million and one other things in the world.

I will second what DesFIP said, in terms of asking him what the meaning is *for him*.

For me, it's something that I feel lukewarm about (pun not intended). I have no real strong feelings one way or another about it. I've done it when my partner has wanted it- and frankly, it did nothing for me. In terms of it "being a service", my kink is not pretending to enjoy something intimate like this. With that being said, everyone is different, of course.

I would suggest speaking to him about this, and about how *you* are feeling about it. It doesn't matter what others find pleasurable or not. It's about you, him, and what is decided for your relationship.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 2:01:47 PM

ChatteParfaitt

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You've gotten some good advice here, so please read it carefully.

This is my take on watersports:

1 -- it did nothing for me

2 -- it was an absolutely fantastic experience that was incredibly bonding

The difference being how I felt about the person and my understanding of how HE felt about it. So the advice to talk about things so that you understand them from HIS end is spot on. But, if you don't really get off on his control and ownership, it might just humiliate you. And you are the only one who knows if that would be good humiliation or bad, in terms of how it effects you emotionally. You're not going to know that until you try it.

Can I ask how long you've been together, and how long M/s?

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/11/2015 5:44:44 PM

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I never really saw the point.... it's pretty boring. The only reason to bother is because "they want to" and then you have to wonder why they want to.... most dims stop wanting to if you find it boring. They want you to want it or they want you to be grossed out by it. If they want you to want it it's because they have an idea of "shes mine no matter what I do to her" and they want to see what they can get away with. If they want to humiliate you it's just that. They want you to feel bad about something they talked you into doing. They want to be responsible for you feeling bad.

Personally I don't find either reason dominant or sexy. More like a toddler who purposely tries to pee on you while potty training.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 7:50:20 AM

Kayleigh133

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Thanks for the great advise. Very helpful.
We been together 6 months.
The first 3 were totally vanilla.
He seemed string and alpha. But I didn't know what it meant.
My idea of sub/Dom was basement and devices. ( yes I know- very dramatic)
Little things started shortly after 3 months.
Little things began after.
Pinning me down, and hand on my throat- all of which I loved.
He then openly had the conversation with me.
Told me his lifestyle and said he would go slow and train me. Work with me. He's asked my limits- I don't know how to answer. How would I know until I've tried.
I believe I'm a sexual sub.
It appeals to me greatly.
The day to day lifestyle is more challenging.
I'm mouthy and outgoing.
He's asked to modify my wardrobe.
Warned me about my interaction with other men.

About the peeing.... I did ask after reading your messages

He said I own you. It pleases me.
You're mine to use and get pleasure from and you will love the feeling of being owned so completely. And he cherishes me. And of after once I don't enjoy or can't manage to do again then he will live with that

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 8:34:11 AM

ChatteParfaitt

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If him owning you in this particular way turns you on, go for it. You might be surprised about how much you like it. Then again you might be surprised at how much you don't like it.

Have you two talked about hard and soft limits?

BTW: Major kudos for coming here and educating yourself!

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 9:00:47 AM

Kayleigh133

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We have explored and discussed.
My thing ( I believe )
I like a pain and punishment. I like to feel very protected and loved afterwards.
He does not love inflicting pain on me. He goes white soft.
He wants a sub in the very essence.
Asks his permission to do things.
Obeys
He wants kneeling upon his arrival.
To clean for him. Naked preferable
I admit I struggle with it.
Makes me feel very vulnerable
Embarrassed almost.
I partially feel silly. Like he will laugh.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 9:25:05 AM

ChatteParfaitt

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If he's a good guy, he's not laughing at you -- he's enjoying you immensely.

And don't worry about feeling a bit silly at first, I think that's -- dare I say it? -- normal.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 2:32:09 PM

Kayleigh133

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Thank you for the great advise!!

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/12/2015 2:43:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kayleigh133

We have explored and discussed.
My thing ( I believe )
I like a pain and punishment. I like to feel very protected and loved afterwards.
He does not love inflicting pain on me. He goes white soft.
He wants a sub in the very essence.
Asks his permission to do things.
Obeys
He wants kneeling upon his arrival.
To clean for him. Naked preferable
I admit I struggle with it.
Makes me feel very vulnerable
Embarrassed almost.
I partially feel silly. Like he will laugh.

Not everybody is service oriented. Enjoying pain and punishment does not mean you also have to enjoy serving.
Hell, even if you enjoy obeying it doesn't mean you also have to enjoy serving.

Don't let him, or anybody else, tell you that in order to be 'a submissive' you need to engage in XYZ, or enjoy ABC.

Not all people who engage in bottom/submissive BDSM play kneel, or clean on command (naked or otherwise), or obey, or engage in watersports, or ask for permission on things.

If you want to do these things, then go ahead and have fun... sometimes a little embarrassment can enhance such fun.

But do NOT feel pressured to do ANYTHING, because that's what 'good submissive are supposed to do'. There is nothing universal that a submissive is supposed to do.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/13/2015 8:33:16 AM

MasterDBsgirl

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Hello

Just wanted to share my experience with you.

my Master and i indulge in water-sports in all their forms .... i was unsure to begin with but when W/we discussed it i found myself getting excited at the idea and so we agreed to take it slowly and give things a go. Master agreed that if at any point i was uncomfortable W/we would slow down or stop. my own relationships is 24/7 TPE and i have agreed that Master is within His rights to push all of my soft limits if He so chooses (hard limits are few and always respected) but He always talks to me first, observes and reads my reactions , verbal and non verbal, and moves me patiently to the place where i can embrace what He wants.

Once i had overcome my initial anxiety i discovered that i loved it ... it was an act of deep and loving service and submission and transformed a functional act into a loving and significant one for U/us both. i now treasure those moments when i receive my Master onto and into me, they are moments of great intimacy and ..... i feel its a great privilege .... a moment in which to demonstrate my total loving submission and obedience and i know that for my Master these moments reinforce His sense of ownership and His desire to protect and nurture .... i have gone from being scared of this aspect of play to needing it .. and if Master withdrew it now i would truly feel that it was a punishment.

i think the key is to talk .. to express your feelings and your fears and always be totally honest with your Master .. and if He truly cherishes you as He should then He will not only welcome that but require it .. then ... as He asks You to push your boundaries and try new things He will know exactly what He is asking of you and how to help you and judge your reaction.

i wish you good luck in this and all aspects of your relationship with your Master

MasterDB's girl

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/13/2015 9:27:44 AM

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Great first post.

Welcome to the message boards!

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/14/2015 11:18:21 AM

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What's the big deal? If it pleases him, just get in that bathtub and enjoy it. If you are truly submissive, you will enjoy it because the act is pleasing him. And isn't that what being submissive is all about? Practice with yourself a few times. Pee in a large glass and pour it all over your body. You just might like the warmth and humiliation of it.

Good luck.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/14/2015 5:38:32 PM

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It is only urine. Get in the bath tub and let him urinate on you. I really don't understand what the huge deal is, it washes right off. Enjoy the fader that he wants to claim you and part if that is marking you. If he wants you to drink it that is something else.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/16/2015 1:16:03 PM

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The big deal is that for some people it puts them in a bad head space. It makes them feel degraded, as though they are not people to their partners, just objects to be used and discarded.

If you get off on degradation, it won't be a big deal for you. For those of us who hard limit it, it could end the relationship.

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/16/2015 6:13:44 PM

Kayleigh133

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I outright asked him to elaborate
He said it's about ownership and closeness. That he has no desire to humiliate me.
He told me a story. A sub he had been with.he woke in the night. Needed to urinate.
He turned her over. Peed in her and on her.
Afterwards orders her while naked and wet to clean the bed and sheets.
I felt sad for her hearing the story.
I envision it different. Loving.
Afterward a hot shower and kissing and holding.
He has said before that I am willing to submit but only on my own term and I don't have that right.
Limits he will repwct but as my owner he can take me how he likes.
When I hear Thais works they sting. Feel mean somehow.
I'm impossibly sensitive :)

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RE: Watersports- what my Master wants - 8/16/2015 6:31:26 PM

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quote:

I believe he desires it both for the humiliation factor but also the sense of ownership and marking his territory.

so your Master is a dog? *chuckles

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