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Wayward5oul -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 6:36:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
Try mano a mano.


Thanks for the correction.
I type from head to hand, without pause for contemplation. It's stream of thought consciousness, translated into finger memory.
Looking it up, you're wholly correct that it's "mano a mano" (hand to hand, as in hand-to-hand combat).


Yes, that is an appropriate translation, within the appropriate context, but it is also more accurately the idea of 'head-to-head'. Its the idea of a confrontation comprised of two individuals or two entities going at it one-on-one, rather than as a team or something to that effect, and in close proximity which is where the 'hand-to-hand' connection comes in. Often used in Spanish when describing boxing matches, tennis matches, etc. It is even used on materials advertising bullfights between toreadores and toros of renown.


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However, "mano e mano" is also in the urban dictionary, but that's probably because it's often misspelled.

Apparently Cecil, of Straight Dope fame, also did a quickie on this topic, comparing it to tête-à-tête (head to head).


I haven't seen this, but going by your description, he was correct in the comparison to tête-à-tête. if used as head to head. But he was incorrect in the way he stated it.

Back to topic.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 8:32:07 PM)

The last time I was in Japan was fifty years ago. Japanese pussy was $5 +2short time $7+4 allnight. The second number is the room rent.
I have never met such politely bigoted people as the Japanese. "This bar for Japanese people only, foreigner may not enter thank you so much". The upside is that the places that did cater to gaijin treated us quite well.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 8:18:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets

How would you graph this equation


Once again this is a discussion about sex...I have no interest in teaching math on this forum other than to point out your misconception about exponents. Now may we return to the pink and moist?




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 9:19:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

The last time I was in Japan was fifty years ago. Japanese pussy was $5 +2short time $7+4 allnight. The second number is the room rent.

Wow. I was talking in the hundreds of dollars range, and your price list is two orders of magnitude lower!
Either times changed a LOT, or, since I was only in the upscale Tokyo prefectures, you might have been in another area altogether.
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
I have never met such politely bigoted people as the Japanese. "This bar for Japanese people only, foreigner may not enter thank you so much". The upside is that the places that did cater to gaijin treated us quite well.

I know a lot about Japanese history, and, well, if you just look at their colonial period, you'll see how badly they treated their compatriots in the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity sphere. Nobody, not even the Germans, treated people worse.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 9:40:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

Wow. I was talking in the hundreds of dollars range, and your price list is two orders of magnitude lower!
Either times changed a LOT, or, since I was only in the upscale Tokyo prefectures, you might have been in another area altogether.


While I lived in Yamaguchi prefecture (about 20/30 klicks south of Hiroshima) I went to Tokyo once a week. Very little price differential. The exchange rate was 366 yen=$1
The farther north one goes the lighter skinned the Japanese become. They are not unaware of this and the lighter skinned ones look down on the darker ones. Except...the Ainu who are even lighter than the Tokoyites, they(the Ainu) are dispised because they are too white,too tall and too ugly.


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I know a lot about Japanese history, and, well, if you just look at their colonial period, you'll see how badly they treated their compatriots in the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity sphere. Nobody, not even the Germans, treated people worse.


If one looks at the history between China and Japan one notices that there are no good guys or bad guys just folks fighting for dominance.
Wouldn't you agree that there is a valid comparison between the actions of the Einsatzgruppen and the folks who brought us the "Rape of Nangking"?
The Germans deplored the actions of the Japanese but failed to see the butchery of their own. If I remember my history correctly they murdered something like 15/20 million Russians just for being Russian in public.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 6:07:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
the lighter skinned ones look down on the darker ones.

It seems that way the world around. Look at India, for example.

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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
there are no good guys or bad guys just folks fighting for dominance.

I guess that's all of world history. Even Athens, for example, was horrid to captured cities - even cities who simply were allies with Sparta, to whom the Athenians said, "Such is war - now you are all our slaves" or some such to the people of a city who complained that they never attacked Athens. All history is bad guys taking over others, some of whom were also bad guys (probably most of whom, if you look at China, for example, during the warring states centuries).
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
Wouldn't you agree that there is a valid comparison between the actions of the Einsatzgruppen and the folks who brought us the "Rape of Nangking"?

Yup. The Germans were as bad as any; but the Japanese have pushed this racial superiority concept even further, probably because they have been racially isolated for thousands of years, excepting the period that started at the time of the black ships only a short time (historically speaking) ago.
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
The Germans deplored the actions of the Japanese but failed to see the butchery of their own.

That both the Germans and Japanese cleverly HID their crimes, speaks for itself.
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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
If I remember my history correctly they murdered something like 15/20 million Russians just for being Russian in public.

Poles. Slavs. Russians. Hungarians. Even Italians (during the Republic of Salo times). etc.
Such are the barbarians, Germans and Japanese alike.

History is a terrible thing to read before you go to sleep.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 6:27:23 PM)

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All history is bad guys taking over others, some of whom were also bad guys


In history there are no good guys or bad guys...there is only stuff that happens. Good guys and bad guys is called sociology.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/27/2015 7:51:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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All history is bad guys taking over others, some of whom were also bad guys


In history there are no good guys or bad guys...there is only stuff that happens. Good guys and bad guys is called sociology.


Knowing history rather well, I'm not sure I'd wholeheartedly agree, but, I do understand your point.

Ask the American Indian who was the good guy, for example, in the "taming" of the Wild West.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/28/2015 5:42:55 PM)

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Ask the American Indian who was the good guy, for example, in the "taming" of the Wild West.


Their answers would be the work of sociologist.
Should I ask the Pawnee about the Nez Perce? Should I ask the Navajo about the Shoshone? The native American inhabited this hemisphere for tens of thousands of years before Columbus got lost. Their domestic history exceeds the their history with Europeans by several orders of magnatude.
Opinions about good guys and bad guys comes under the heading of sociology.History is the study of events. Alexander was "great" to some... others...may have considered him a sociopathic pyromaniac. Both of those opinions are sociology not history.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/28/2015 8:32:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Ask the American Indian who was the good guy, for example, in the "taming" of the Wild West.


Their answers would be the work of sociologist.
Should I ask the Pawnee about the Nez Perce? Should I ask the Navajo about the Shoshone? The native American inhabited this hemisphere for tens of thousands of years before Columbus got lost. Their domestic history exceeds the their history with Europeans by several orders of magnatude.
Opinions about good guys and bad guys comes under the heading of sociology.History is the study of events. Alexander was "great" to some... others...may have considered him a sociopathic pyromaniac. Both of those opinions are sociology not history.


As learned and erudite as the 2 of you are desperate to demonstrate for us here, have either of you ever heard the concept of "thread drift"? See the original post and notice how far you've both wandered past it, and consider the forum guidelines discouraging that. You could always start your own thread just for the 2 of you, while we all watch in awe.




sexyred1 -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/28/2015 9:54:56 PM)

I was going to tell them to get a room, but you were far more eloquent.




cloverodella -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/28/2015 11:23:18 PM)

For the record, no, I don't agree with anything you have said, neither before my other posts, nor since, and especially not the interpretation of *my* words that you called "paraphrasing".

One of my more obnoxious traits (or so i imagine), is that I'm generally one to want to have the last word. From what I can gather from the threads I've lurked on, it is a trait shared by the majority of posters on this side. How you regulars have the energy is beyond me. To leave it alone when another person twists your words? That's a level of torture I can only endure for a specific Person (and biological family)...




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 12:26:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cloverodella
How you regulars have the energy is beyond me. To leave it alone when another person twists your words? That's a level of torture I can only endure for a specific Person (and biological family)...


You hit a point -and it takes a long time for the most stubborn among us, myself included- where you decided that it's just not worth your time.

I now have shit (this thread including) that I no longer bother replying to that a couple years ago would have me laying awake at night if I didn't 'defend myself' against the misrepresentation... not kidding...

Incidentally, it seems that the ones who are already to the point of 'not worth my time' don't really take you seriously until you hit that point yourself. [;)]






crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 7:57:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2
have either of you ever heard the concept of "thread drift"? See the original post and notice how far you've both wandered past it,

This is a perfectly valid point, and I accept the direct admonishment.

Back to the point, I think the men here should NOT read this Gizmodo technical discussion on the "real" number of women to men on a somewhat related web site named "Ashley Madison".

Almost None of the Women in the Ashley Madison Database Ever Used the Site

The author looked at the entire database, and concluded what the title says.
For starters, Ashley Madison "claims" 31 million men competing to attract 5.5 million women (and that 6:1 ratio is the "official" numbers, when men have to pay money, and women get in the door for free).

But then, when you look at the data, only 12,000 "real" women seem to exist (gory details are in the article as to how that figure was obtained, where the approach appears tenable to me).

So, while I have been touting an "average" thousand-to-one ratio here of male behavior toward female behavior, at that one site, it's actually more like millions to one instead.

As an aside, read the stuff about many of the female profiles being "for entertainment purposes only", which skews the results even more.

Sad fact, this is the conclusion of the authors (which, I believe, applies just as well here, on Collarspace):
"What I discovered was that the world of Ashley Madison was a far more dystopian place than anyone had realized".




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 8:10:05 AM)

Just to further illustrate the horrendous (real) male:female ratios, this is a sentence from the Gizmodo research, that I think illustrates the fundamental point of NUMBERS...once they looked at the ACTIVITY of the supposedly "real" female accounts...

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"Overall, the picture is grim indeed. Out of 5.5 million female accounts, roughly zero percent had ever shown any kind of activity at all, after the day they were created. The men’s accounts tell a [different] story of lively engagement with the site, with over 20 million men hopefully looking at their inboxes, and over 10 million of them initiating chats. The women’s accounts show so little activity that they might as well not be there."


Want even more disturbing data?
Read this:

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Ashley Madison employees did a pretty decent job making their millions of women’s accounts look alive. They left the data in these inactive accounts visible to men, showing nicknames, pictures, sexy comments. But when it came to data that was only visible on to company admins, they got sloppy. The women’s personal email addresses and IP addresses showed marked signs of fakery. And as for the women’s user activity, the fundamental sign of life online? Ashley Madison employees didn’t even bother faking that at all.


So, it's much worse than I had previously conjectured, at millions, to zero, as the ratio of men to women, at that (somewhat behaviorally related) site.
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Either way, we’re left with data that suggests Ashley Madison is a site where tens of millions of men write mail, chat, and spend money for women who aren’t there




MatureSpaiosexul -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 10:45:12 AM)

First, I have been amused beyond belief reading this thread. Thank you all so much.

2nd: If anyone could provide me with some evidence life, or the universe is FAIR, I would so love to have that.

Men will fuck mud. Lenny Bruce

Thank you for teaching me about ducks! I now have an image of women wandering down dangerous avenues with Fleshlights ducttaped over their real vaginas looking for the real Drake who will stick around, who will be my lead character in my next bodice ripper.

I am so impressed with you techo-savvy people who can have endless quotes from multiple posts. I wish I knew how to do that, but please do not explain, just send that hot, bi 18 yo babe who could do me and a few of my friends, while she handled that with two small fingers on her left hand.

So I have had over 3,000 sexual partners (yes this was entirely compulsive behavior, why do you think I became a psychotherapist?) There were a few men, but they were there merely to thank me for cuckolding them, they are not included in my sample.

If I go to a bar and meet two women who are really interested in me and I pay attention to both, I am going home alone.

If a woman goes to a bar and ten guys hit on her and she flirts with all ten, she gets to pick a number from 1-10 including in many cases one through ten, as to whom she is going to have take her home, yes she is messing up YOUR sheets not hers. Women generally choosy and practical. (Proviso: Catholic girls away from home at college for the first time and drinking have the cognetive capacity of a field mouse, who has been drinking.)

My most adorable girlfriend in high school, the one I 'forced' to fuck my geeky friends, came over one weekend when my parents were away. She had soda and junk food, which my mother never bought. I had planned a weekend just with her, but she explained the soda and snacks were for my friends.

I explained my plans and she told me, while pouting and looking worried and concerned, "What about THEIR NEEDS?" now her worry and concern went on for a while, and I thinking I was the Big Bad Dom thought wow, I really am making her OBEY!!! I explained I had not called them when they knocked on my door. Wasn't she thoughtful to have called them herself? So selfless, not wanting to bother me. So worried about their needs. So noble.

Later that evening, I was test driving a small bit of LSD and was watching her (there were 12 of them) as she took three. I realized indeed every one of us men was having orgasms 3-4 or so, but she, well I need the physics professor and his exponential equations about now.

When the smoke cleared, she shyly looked at me and asked me if I was pleased with her. Did she do a good job of taking care of ALL Their Needs. But the minor satori I had watching her come 50-100 times, let me know, Women might have a sex drive, albeit a minor one.

(Side note: gentlemen, if a woman says she has never done this before, she means with only one guy.)

Never once did she talk about her needs, her wants, her desires, for they were immaterial, she was doing it for me, for them, for the betterment of mankind. That she had to suffer through countless orgasms, showed how selfless and want a humanitarian she is.

So Men Will Fuck Mud, and trust me I have woken up next to some very questionable partners in my life.

Women get to choose.

For you physics buffs: a vacuum is irresistible to the something that is pulled into it. Rather effortless, and that empty hole between a woman's legs works in a similar fashion.

The boys might get to argue over who goes first or in which hole, but when she moves from the couch to the bed, none of the men are saying, WTF! I'm going home. I'm not walking all the way into the bedroom to fuck her. (Unless he is over 60 and the Viagra wore off and he doesn't have another. and I am giving 3 to 1 odds he will stay to watch.)

As to how many profiles are real or fake and their numerical stats, I haven't a clue, but I'll get that 18 yo on it right away, please bi, total sub, questionable morals (See: Catholic Church Advisory).

That men are hunting and women are choosing for me is apparent. I have seen it in action.

Now I have had the thought after all the bandying about of homosexuals and lesbian ratios that perhaps men are not having extramartial affairs with women, hence so many more homosexuals, taking up the slack I suppose.

In my work as a psychotherapist, I did counsel a number of couples where it appears the woman did have sex with a man other than her husband, maybe I should say men, because I found often once the closet door opened it appeared there was more than 'one bone', if we are allowed metaphorical puns.

As one woman pointed out, and this follows the ancient joke of the boy showing is little dick and saying "I've got one of these" to the girl who went cryng home and came back pulling down her panties and saying, "My mommy says with one of these, I can get all of those I want."

In my varied careers, I did a stint as a quasi-pimp. It seems I had a number of young ladies who wanted to be whores. Being a kind and caring individual, and following whatever military groups slogan of Be All You Can Be. I assisted them. They like my high school girlfriend preferred groups. If they were faking it, I should have sent them to Hollywood, because I was seeing some Academy Award performances.

There idea of working hard was at the end, they would look at each man, hand him a card with her number and say, "I hope we can do this again.... soon." I am sure there were a few times they went with a single man, but generally they could pout, yes pout into the phone, and the man would go find a few friends. I mean why waste an evening making a thousand when you could make ten.

Now I am sure there are a multitude of women doing this just like the robots who check you out at Walmart. It is pure paycheck. But again they choose to see of feel that way about it. My ladies-pure avocation.

Women to men on the net hunting? On a kinky site? I'll go with the 100-1 poster. But I did have a discussion with a grumpy fem-sub back when this was collarme and I posted four different fem-sub profiles (Oh god shall I be shunned as a fake!?!?) and was stunned at the influx of driveling idiots. Some of the profiles did produce a higher number of interesting and intelligent men, but I can only imagine what it must be like to find my long letter, one ever 3 pages or so.

I suspect the vast majority of Dom profiles are dom de louisa, mama's boy pissed at taking shit and he's heard he can get him a stupid dumb submissive slave cunt and writes to her eloquently, "Kneel down bitch and suck my dick." I am sure you subs after slamming your knees into the cracked linoleum of his mother's kitchen floor a few hundred times, have gone to Home Depot to get some knee pads and will be back shortly.

So if we throw out the 18-22 yo sub girls with the professional photographs, and then 97.3% of all male doms one of the physicists can come up with a really spiffy formula. Boys are still going to outnumber the girls by a wide number. and the girls are still going to be choosy. Well except the actual 18 yo who have never done this and are only having one, just a little one in their 5 gallon Big Slurpy cup. But with them it is pure luck and timing, like winning free tickets to the Rolling Stones on a radio call in.

I am assuming they did not include it earlier, because like Stephen Hawkins, they did not wish to harm their book sales.

Now. Men are NOT sluts! If I fuck 100 women I am a stud and very manly. Let me photoshop those pecs back in.

A woman fucks 10 (my era, likely raise to 20 these days) she is a slut.

Now, for me personally, when she crosses that century mark, She becomes a Love Goddess.

But I'm not Catholic.

Now any of you over that 20 mark and looking for a charming man to help you hit your century, do toddle over to the profile, that little button down under my name and stuff that says profile (for the 18 yo I was Not talking to you and are you trying to tell me with those lips, you have not reached your century? "But that was so Last Century.")




HoneyBears -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 12:36:09 PM)

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I very much doubt that men who are undateable on this site are dateable on vanilla sites.

Touché. I would venture to guess that there are far more undateable men than there are dateable ones. Anywhere, cultural differences notwithstanding.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

I think the term "Men" is being used quite loosely here :-)

So do we.[:D]

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ORIGINAL: crumpets
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In general, men are the sluts (they do it for the sex); women are the whores (they do it for personal gain).
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Speak for yourself ... in general.
Honestly, we have been struggling to restrain ourselves from commenting on your spurious statement.

You kiss your boss's ass for personal gain.
You have sold your soul to the corporate machine. (Could be capitalism, but the same thing happens with socialism--just a different set of cogs in the machine)
You may even be in a profession you detest just so you can pay the bills on your inflated mortgage, and to keep your self-indebted head above water.
Going by your own definition then, YOU are a whore.
You would jump ship if you were given a better job opportunity, at least some of you would.
'Tis true, you (most of us) are not married to your job. Career, perhaps.
But neither do all of you take your marital or steady relationship commitments seriously either.

Even if you are self-employed, you have to kiss your clients' asses, stroke their egos, win that contract/account, etc. You do what you have to in order to not piss off your customers or lose potential business.

Funny how the same men who think they do not have to make a similar effort to woo a woman or treat her to dinner, won't hesitate to put their best foot forward in striving to make a good impression and/or do their homework while vetting a client.
How is the competition to win favor stacked against you any less?

Professional gain IS personal gain.[8|]

Oh, you don't have an expense account to charge for that lady who has caught your eye? Cheapskate mothereffer! Then when she has 10 other men to choose from who are not promiscuously horny (slutty) tightwad fuckwits - (gentle)men unlike yourself - she is the whore???
You only wish all women were sluts handing out freebies!

We could go on and on, but this will suffice.

-- Lisa & Cub

(Edited for clarity)




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 12:59:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
Men will fuck mud.

True dat. With the exception that they prefer "warm" mud, if at all possible.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexuljust send that hot, bi 18 yo babe who could do me and a few of my friends

She's as real as the hooker who does it for the sex is.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
I have had over 3,000 sexual partners

Wow. Most men, I've heard (ahem), only have as many sexual partners as their age, i.e., an average of 1 per year.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
There were a few men

Yikes. OK. all statistics just went out the window with that revelation. Men will fuck anything - even mud.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
If I go to a bar ... I am going home alone.
If a woman goes to a bar ... she gets to pick

It's how it is.
Is it fair to the complainers?
Nope.
Is it how it is?
Yep.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
Did she do a good job of taking care of ALL Their Needs.

I must have gone to the wrong high school. Sigh.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
For you physics buffs: a vacuum is irresistible to ... that empty hole between a woman's legs...

Duck. The Mod is coming. The hoi polloi said we shouldn't be talking about Physics here.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
The boys might get to argue ... which hole, ... none of the men are ... going home.

Men will fuck mud, even if some other just guy fucked it moments before.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
3 to 1 odds he will stay to watch

As a corollary, men will WATCH other men fuck mud.
(I'm not sure why, but I think it's called porn.)
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
As to how many profiles are real or fake and their numerical stats, I haven't a clue

The clue is in the released Ashley Madison data dump. Something like millions to one.
Luckily, even with those odds, I have met with a half dozen "real" (AFAICT) females here, so, they "do" exist (if in infinitesimally small numbers as compared to the mudfuckers).
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
That men are hunting and women are choosing

Men === hunters
Women === choosers
That's Biology. No amount of PC women's rights and men's sensitivity seminars is gonna make a dent in that fact.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
homosexuals, taking up the slack

If heterosexual men will fuck mud, homosexuals men fuck mud in a rainstorm.
If there's no rain, they'll bring buckets of water to make more mud.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
In my work as a psychotherapist, I did counsel a number of couples where it appears the woman did have sex with a man other than her husband, maybe I should say men, because I found often once the closet door opened it appeared there was more than 'one bone', if we are allowed metaphorical puns.

You, of all people, would know that women are far more complicated than men are, when it comes to the reasons for their sexual behavior.
The sexual behavior of men is about as simple to understand as the question of where mud comes from.
To understand the sexual behavior of women takes an understanding of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, otherwise known as Why God Plays Dice with the Universe

(The Physicist, at least, will get that joke.)
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
"My mommy says with one of these, I can get all of those I want."

QED
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
I did a stint as a quasi-pimp. ...I was seeing some Academy Award performances.

No no no. The hookers do it for the sex. Not for the money.
What is wrong with you?
Don'tcha know anything about women?
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
I am sure there are a multitude of women doing this just like the robots who check you out at Walmart.

If they exist in the numbers intimated here, then all the bona-fide facts presented here which include exponential NUMBERS have to be reversed.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
It is pure paycheck.

No! Say it isn't so. You mean, um... you... no?... you mean, she didn't do it for love?
But, she said she loved me??????????
She said I was the best! Oh no ... you mean ... it wasn't true ????
(my low-pitched wailing and pitiful sobbing is now heard in the background)
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
Women to men on the net hunting? On a kinky site? I'll go with the 100-1 poster.

On Ashley Madison, for which data exists, it seems to be arguably a million to one, so, I'd say 100 to 1 is a good conservative estimate.
I, myself, have met a half dozen, so that would make it that I appealed, at least initially, more so than about six hundred men (depending on how you do your math), which, I feel, about fits my assessment of myself (a self-righteous chuckle may be heard in the background).
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
I posted four different fem-sub profiles (Oh god shall I be shunned as a fake!?!?)

I've created all kinds of profiles, and I have a lot of experience in who contacts whom (DS is one, for example, but he's just curious. Some others who habitually contact them or at least view the full profile are cops. Some are bots such as Mystress-World. Most are fake. It runs the gamut depending on the type of profile I create as each is crafted for certain purposes.)
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
and was stunned at the influx of driveling idiots.

It's shocking, when you create a female or couple's or CD profile, for example, what driveling idiots men are.
Sheesh. If I were female, I'd turn of the entire collarspace mail mechanism, as the drivel would drive me insane were I not to delete it all, en masse, after running my quick statistics on them, which I haven't done in years, since nothing has changed (apparently) in the ten thousand years since online profiles were invented!). :)
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
I suspect the vast majority of Dom profiles are dom de louisa, ...writes to her eloquently, "Kneel down bitch and suck my dick."

I have created quite a few submissive female profiles, and, well, I can say, with trust, that your eloquent assemblage of dommy words above was far more eloquent than most wanna-be Doms can manage!
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
So if we throw out the 18-22 yo sub girls with the professional photographs,

What? No??? You mean? No? They're not real?
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
Boys are still going to outnumber the girls by a wide number. and the girls are still going to be choosy.

Yup. Something like 100:1 to 1,000:1 to 1,000,000:1 (count' 'dem zeros folks!), depending on the avenue.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
Men are NOT sluts! If I fuck 100 women I am a stud

That's a different interpretation of slut!
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
A woman fucks 10 (my era, likely raise to 20 these days) she is a slut.

But WHY did she fuck those men?
The slut:whore designation balances on intent.
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
when she crosses that century mark, She becomes a Love Goddess.

I've always held to the benchmark that men should fuck their age.
So, if you're, um, say, 50, you should have had 50 partners to be on the normal side in the USA.
These are real numbers. No cheating. You still have to count the ones the wifey never found out about.
And, yes, you have to count the hookers just as much as that first date that went better than every other date in your entire life.

For women, I suspect the number is ???? (I just realized I actually don't have a clue).
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ORIGINAL: MatureSpaiosexul
But I'm not Catholic.

Luckily, I am!
Roman Catholic to you, sir!
We Italians are the purest of all sinners!




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 1:32:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Touché. I would venture to guess that there are far more undateable men than there are dateable ones.

I would think most women can read the text of the first message, and decide, pretty quickly, if they would even bother to respond.
Then, after a few well chosen questions (e.g., Um, Seriously, are you married?), and a few choice intuits (e.g., "Why can you only meet when you're out on business?"), they can weed out all but the outright professional liars.

I would think, out of those hundred contacts, a woman can choose one choice male to meet at the local coffee shop, and, just like on the outside (aka, the vanilla world), probably one out of a hundred meets would go well enough to warrant further attention (orders of magnitude being all that matter here).
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
You kiss your boss's ass for personal gain.

Yup.
But I don't have sex with her, so, that's off topic (we were already warned about this).
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
You have sold your soul to the corporate machine.

Yup. Again, off topic. What does that have to do with my motive or sex?
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
You may even be in a profession ... just so you can pay the bills

Yup. Again. Has nothing to do with my motive for sex.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Going by your own definition then, YOU are a whore.

If you compare my motive for, say, slave wages, and then you contrast my motive with someone else's motive who happens to do it for the fun of it, then, sure, I'd be the whore for slave wages while she'd be the slut.

The distinction is all about motive for sexual behavior.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
You would jump ship if you were given a better job opportunity, at least some of you would.

Yup. Again, has nothing to do with my motive for sex, but, you're correct.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
But neither do all of you take your marital or steady relationship commitments seriously either.

That's a good question.
It was actually a rhetorical statement, I believe; so, it doesn't require answering, I don't think.
it's simply assumed to be true.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Even if you are self-employed, you have to kiss your clients' asses,

Yup. Except when taken entirely literally, it still has nothing to do with my motive for sex, nor with the motive of the millions who join these web sites with the same motives. It just explains why the OWNER of this web site created it.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Funny how the same men who think they do not have to make a similar effort to woo a woman or treat her to dinner, won't hesitate to put their best foot forward in striving to make a good impression and/or do their homework while vetting a client.

This is a good point. Entirely valid. I can't disagree.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
How is the competition to win favor stacked against you any less?

It's probably similar. 100 to 1.
Most male endeavors, except something pre-ordained such as fixing the car, carry risks equivalent to something akin to 10 to 1 to 100 to 1. For example, if you strive to be the CEO of your company, what are your odds? If you aim to be the best football player on the league, what are your odds? If you want to be number one at West Point, what are your odds? If you just want to survive in battle, what are your odds? (Actually, those odds, of surviving in battle, are pretty good, since most so-called "Veterans" never saw the blunt end of an enemy's rifle).
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Professional gain IS personal gain.

Um. OK.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Oh, you don't have an expense account to charge for that lady who has caught your eye? Cheapskate mothereffer!

Actually, taking a gal on business trips is one of the most common business practices I've seen (and I'm sure I'm not the only one).
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
Then when she has 10 other men to choose from who are not promiscuously horny (slutty) tightwad fuckwits - (gentle)men unlike yourself - she is the whore???

WHY did she do it?
WHY does the MISTRESS fuck the married guy?
Why?

The fine dividing line between slut and whore merely hinges on MOTIVE.
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
You only wish all women were sluts handing out freebies!

This is the most correct statement I have EVER seen you write, in all my many years on Collar/me/space (in all my incarnations!).
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ORIGINAL: HoneyBears
We could go on and on, but this will suffice.

No, please. Go on. I agree wholeheartedly with you.
I don't think I'm the only guy who understands the motive of men and women.
What I don't understand is the person who said that the hookers do it for the sex.
I'm still scratching my head over that one.




cloudboy -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/29/2015 6:48:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

Fast reply

The ratio is the excuse. The reason a man doesn't get messages is the man himself. There are men who do get messaged here, and the reasons for that are those men themselves.

If you don't get messaged, it's you.


Shit, now I'm afraid to look in the Mirror!

But, really, if there's 4 men searching and only one woman available, three guys are left out in the cold -- and they themselves may not be the problem. It's more the whims of fate, taste, circumstance, and bad odds.

I don't really feel good or deserving that I have a partner, I feel lucky.




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