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Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 8:34:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Could???
LOL


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*gigglesnorts*


I am old so I get to be on the bottom.




NookieNotes -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 10:14:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Could???
LOL


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*gigglesnorts*


I am old so I get to be on the bottom.


So us curling up on the sofa, eating white truffle popcorn, wearing cartoon pajamas, watching chick flicks, while wrinkling our noses cutely and giggling, while you sit with our feet draped over you?




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 12:05:27 PM)

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So us curling up on the sofa, eating white truffle popcorn,


If there are to be truffles they will be See's dark chocolate.


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wearing cartoon pajamas,


Butt floss bikinis and "pajama tops"

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watching chick flicks,


porn


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while wrinkling our noses cutely and giggling,


Too cool.


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while you sit with our feet draped over you?


While I am sandwiched between the two of you like the cream filling in an oreo.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 12:54:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
But he wasn't quoting you, and you hadn't said that, that I see. What he was doing was quoting someone else, and trying to twist the words.

There are many times when I respond to a post, *thinking* it was directed to me, when it wasn't, so, if I did that (and I have done that in the past so I acknowledge same), then I apologize.

It's partly how I quote, and how the forum works (or doesn't work, as the case may be) - and partly just that I'm responding to the WORDS but not the specifics of whom those words were directed to.

This web-based forum doesn't actually make it as easy as most web-based forums do, since there is no multi-quote capability that I know of (if it's there, let me know my error - I love being corrected - because I learn as a direct result).

Also, this forum has an odd way of quoting quotes, using a multi-line approach, by default, which just makes things less efficient and more confusing (to me, anyway), given that I'm on perhaps a score of forums daily, and this is the only one that has this technical problem.

Anyway, that's a long-winded apology for my errors, in case it didn't come across as one.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 1:00:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloverodella
I DO NOT AGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID. I do not believe there’s anything wrong with being a slut, nor do I believe that either gender is sluttier than the other.

Actually, you agree with my entire premise.
You just said so.

You say there's nothing wrong with being a slut. I never disagreed. In fact, it is what it is, so, since men are men and at the same time, men are sluts, it would mean that men are bad if I even intimated that being a slut was bad.

Likewise, a woman is a slut who does it for more than sex (aka a whore, figuratively speaking).

That this isn't "my" characterization seems to be lost on you. Google it.
This "men are sluts women are whores" distinction has been spoken about since the beginning of time.

It's a philosophical argument.
It basically means women have sex for more complex reasons than do men.

That you don't get this, worries me about your lack of an ability to comprehend adult conversations.

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ORIGINAL: cloverodella
I also believe that men forced to have sex is rape, period, full stop. (how those 2 ideas are related is lost on me)

It was a figure of speech, not a description of assault. Geeze Louise. If you take everything so out of context, you'll have trouble having any normal conversation with anyone who doesn't use 3rd-grade figures of speech only.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 1:11:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I agree with Red..using your horniness to excuse your lack of control, is so old its rusty...thats how a lot of men get into legal problems.

We're not talking about any specific individual, and, clearly this "lack of control" thing was brought up by the ladyfolk here, not by me.
That this lack-of-control concept was tied to the MOTIVES of men and women for sexual activity is the motive concept I'm struggling with.

I realize that you're saying men are, as we agreed, in general less finicky than the women are, but, that doesn't address MOTIVE.

So I need to ask you to kindly clarify your statement.
Specifically, how is lack of control something that defines male motive as compared to female motive?

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Nobody owes you sex just for being a male with blue balls, however much you want them too.

Did I just drop in on the wrong thread?
Who said anything about anyone owing anyone sex?

The only time a woman (or a man) owes a man (or a woman) sex is when one person paid for the sex and the other person agreed to provide that sex for such payment.

But, I didn't think we were talking about hookers here.

Maybe the age-old expression requires clarification?

CLUE:
When people throughout the world and throughout the ages compare the motives of men and women to the concept of sluts and whores, they're not actually saying they are what you can only think of a slut as being, versus what you can only think of a whore as being.

We're contrasting MOTIVES.

Women are far more complex than men, when it comes to their sexual motives.
That's what the expression clarifies and contrasts, in a very simple and forthright manner.

It's not "my" expression.
Every man on the planet knows that specific distinction between men and women (except the utterly clueless).
They learned it when they started figuring out women, way back somewhere between fourth grade and tenth grade (or so); and it was just reinforced by almost every experience they have had with women throughout college, through graduate school, through their first five jobs, and in their retirement. It never changes. It is what it is.

It isn't good or bad. It is what it is, and it has been that way since biology formed men and women and shaped their sexual motives.




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 1:19:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
Your "understanding" is simply a result of your culture. Not reality. Just as theirs was.

So how do you know any one woman is as horny as any one man.

(Note: If you ask me, I can easily tell you how I know that they're not; but I'll wait for you to answer the question first, before I respond, in kind.)




DocStrange -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 2:03:14 PM)

Going back to the original question:
Here is an easy experiment to do. Set up a search criteria and set all the options to any/all or not specified. If you do that you can easily look at the screen and see the men to women ratio, which is about 4 to 1 give or take a little. Search multiple screens for better averaging.

Now that is just gender. So strictly looking all all men and all women who are on CS online currently or recently.

If you change the dynamic to Domme women for sub males, then that is a whole different ball games.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 4:05:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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So us curling up on the sofa, eating white truffle popcorn,


If there are to be truffles they will be See's dark chocolate.


quote:

wearing cartoon pajamas,


Butt floss bikinis and "pajama tops"

quote:

watching chick flicks,


porn


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while wrinkling our noses cutely and giggling,


Too cool.


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while you sit with our feet draped over you?


While I am sandwiched between the two of you like the cream filling in an oreo.


Get a room already! [;)]




NookieNotes -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 5:59:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crumpets
This "men are sluts women are whores" distinction has been spoken about since the beginning of time.
It's a philosophical argument.
It basically means women have sex for more complex reasons than do men.

That you don't get this, worries me about your lack of an ability to comprehend adult conversations.


I don't get it either. I also don't accept your attempt to be condescending. I'm guessing cloverodella will not, either. Very clumsy. And rude, even.

And I'm curious about your "beginning of time" premise. Because, I like to research things, and having never run across that before, I wanted to see where the "philosophy" came from.

I did a google search for "men are sluts women are whores" which returned a WHOPPING 5 results.

Five.

Five.

Not exactly what I'd call a strong philosophy held to by many since "the beginning of time."

Although one site was from 2003. That's a LONG time. Not.

But, hey, if you have proof of this philosophy from "the beginning of time," I would love to see some of it. Links, book references, anything, really.

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
Your "understanding" is simply a result of your culture. Not reality. Just as theirs was.

So how do you know any one woman is as horny as any one man.

(Note: If you ask me, I can easily tell you how I know that they're not; but I'll wait for you to answer the question first, before I respond, in kind.)


It doesn't matter about ONE woman and ONE man. It matters about the bulk of women and the bulk of men.

And the discussion is WANTING SEX. That was your point: "Women don't want sex as much as men."

As far as how I know, like I have said several times, this is one of my specific areas of research. I read papers about it regularly. I look at the studies. I see what is being done and said about love, romance and sexuality around the world.

Because I like to know.

Oh, and because links:

http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/when-women-wanted-sex-much-more-men

In one ancient Greek myth, Zeus and Hera argue about whether men or women enjoy sex more. They ask the prophet Tiresias, whom Hera had once transformed into a woman, to settle the debate. He answers, “if sexual pleasure were divided into ten parts, only one part would go to the man, and and nine parts to the woman.”

http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sexsurv.htm

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/promiscuity-differs-by-gender

http://www.livescience.com/16594-busted-gender-myths-bedroom.html

If I were to compare one to 3, I would say that I have had a greater sex drive than 3 men I have "known" over long term relationships in the past 23 years. But again, who cares? That's me, and I may be an anomaly. And sex drive doesn't even mean "wants sex less," it means "the body is not up for sex as often," which is why both men and women struggle with hyposexuality.

That is why I use research. So I don't rely on my personal, limited, and skewed experience.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 6:20:31 PM)

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Get a room already!


That would make it a foursome? That sounds lethal to a man my age. I suppose there are worse ways to die.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 6:28:17 PM)

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So how do you know any one woman is as horny as any one man.


I should think it would be counter-intuitive to believe that if two people voluntarily do the same thing on a regular basis that one would consistently enjoy it more.




Wayward5oul -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 6:38:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Get a room already!


That would make it a foursome? That sounds lethal to a man my age. I suppose there are worse ways to die.


But isn't that the point of the whole thread? 4:1? One more woman and we have our ratio! Because history!




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 8:14:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Get a room already!


That would make it a foursome? That sounds lethal to a man my age. I suppose there are worse ways to die.


But isn't that the point of the whole thread? 4:1? One more woman and we have our ratio! Because history!



"My rigs a little old but that don't mean I'm slow"....I think I am being teased. You have exactly 6 months to stop (that is a negotiable figure)




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/25/2015 10:29:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
I should think it would be counter-intuitive to believe that if two people voluntarily do the same thing on a regular basis that one would consistently enjoy it more.


While that argument appears to make sense on face value, as I've said at least twice before, it's not one-to-one grade-school math because what we're dealing with are exponents (which elevates the math to at least seventh grade or eighth grade level).

For example, some women (the real whores, in particular, who comprise the millions of prostitutes for example, around the world), each have sex with, um, let's say conservatively 5 men a day times 5 days a week times 52 weeks for, um, say, 10 years, which is one woman having sex with well over ten thousand men in that short career.

My point with that example is merely that there is nothing in the mechanics of sex that decrees even close to a one-to-one ratio, particularly if it is even remotely true that both the motives and drive for sex aren't exactly equal.




NookieNotes -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 3:32:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets
For example, some women (the real whores, in particular, who comprise the millions of prostitutes for example, around the world), each have sex with, um, let's say conservatively 5 men a day times 5 days a week times 52 weeks for, um, say, 10 years, which is one woman having sex with well over ten thousand men in that short career.


Yup, and that doesn't actually show "WANT" in any significant way.

The women left at home may WANT sex from their cheating husbands... probably do. Or, rather, did. They now WANT sex from the pool boy, or the hunky neighbor, or Brad Pitt.

And yet, they can't/don't have it, for various reasons. Just because some men will stick a dick in anything that doesn't move too fast does not mean they want it more. It just means they have less impulse control.

And it's still all your opinion. Which you have a lot of. You're still light on facts. But that's cool. I see that SOP with you. Rock it, dude.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 7:42:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: crumpets


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez
I should think it would be counter-intuitive to believe that if two people voluntarily do the same thing on a regular basis that one would consistently enjoy it more.


While that argument appears to make sense on face value, as I've said at least twice before, it's not one-to-one grade-school math because what we're dealing with are exponents (which elevates the math to at least seventh grade or eighth grade level).



I taught physics for a few years and back in those days if one took an equation and raised the exponents of the elements within the equation it did not change the relationship but only the value...have things changed recently?

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For example, some women (the real whores, in particular, who comprise the millions of prostitutes for example, around the world),


I can assure you that there are significantly more than a few million prostitutes in the world.


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each have sex with, um, let's say conservatively 5 men a day times 5 days a week times 52 weeks for, um, say, 10 years, which is one woman having sex with well over ten thousand men in that short career.

My point with that example is merely that there is nothing in the mechanics of sex that decrees even close to a one-to-one ratio, particularly if it is even remotely true that both the motives and drive for sex aren't exactly equal.


I am old and ugly so I may have a little more objective knowledge on this subject than you. I live in Nevada where we have 34 licensed brothels. Yes I am known in more than one by my first name. My experience indicates that a significant number of the ladies who work at this profession do so because they enjoy sex and this is a way to get paid for doing what they enjoy. I would be the first to agree that there are some who do not. Typically they have rather short lived careers . If a lady has been in the profession for 30 years they are either Oscar award winning actresses or they enjoy their work. I think you would agree that a prostitute's reputation is her greatest financial asset. If the lady of one's choice cannot engender passion (either real or imagined) she will not get a significant tip or repeat business.
I am afraid that you have been less than convincing in your opinions.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 7:52:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crumpets

For example, some women (the real whores, in particular, who comprise the millions of prostitutes for example, around the world), each have sex with, um, let's say conservatively 5 men a day times 5 days a week times 52 weeks for, um, say, 10 years, which is one woman having sex with well over ten thousand men in that short career.



I actually am an ex-hooker (though nowhere near that long or frequent), so I have some experience with the end result that men get from the experience... the enjoyment they get from it... the 'benefit' so to say...

And I'll tell you right now, that if you could advertise a male hooker to women and GUARANTEE them that he was 'good enough' to provide them with an equal service and level of enjoyment as men receive from female hookers... he's be busier than your hypothetical girl.

It's not women's brain's that don't work that way. It's the anatomy... and the skill level of you're average dude out there.

Oh... and the reason I was hooking back then was for fun... not for the money. I had a day job that paid the bills. Hooking was something I did on the weekends to have a good time. Me and the other girls would often go party after our shift ended and have some more sex... for free.
When's the last time you fucked a whole day straight just for the desire of doing so?




Thegunnysez -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 8:09:57 AM)

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When's the last time you fucked a whole day straight just for the desire of doing so?


I can't remember the last time I had sex that lasted more than a couple of hours let alone all day.[:(]




crumpets -> RE: Male:Female ratio on collarspace (8/26/2015 11:02:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
Yup, and that doesn't actually show "WANT" in any significant way.

I must agree.
The "whore" who has sex with well over ten thousand men in ten years is just doing it for the money (no other reason, I would think).
It's certainly not driven by her innate "horniness", we can agree.

However, the men are having sex with her for a reason.
She may very well have repeat customers, so, let's just assume it's one thousand men instead of ten thousand (for arguments' sake).

Out of those thousand men per whore, given probably thousands of whores in the USA operating today, that's a huge number of men having sex with whores right? (This is why I have brought up the topic of mathematical exponents a few times already).

Given how exponents work in math, we can probably assume, rather safely, that many MILLIONS of men, in the USA, had sex with thousands of USA whores, in the past 10 years. Right?

Of those many millions of men, we can safely assume some (what percentage?) of those men have a steady partner, right?
Any decent percentage of many millions is still in the millions, right?

So, WHY do those millions of men in the USA, who have a steady partner, go to the whores in such huge numbers?

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
The women left at home may WANT sex from their cheating husbands... probably do. Or, rather, did. They now WANT sex from the pool boy, or the hunky neighbor, or Brad Pitt.

To your point, I look at the news and shake my head in absolute wonderment when I read about young female teachers having sex with high school boys.

It amazes me when I read that Michelle Yeh, 28, of Los Angeles, or Deanna Higgins, of Spring, Texas, or Brianne Altice, 35, of Bountiful Utah, or Pamela Rogers Turner of McMinnville, TN, or Natasha Sizow of Virginia Beach, or Janelle Batkins of Roseville, Michigan, or Heather Kennedy of Wantagh NY, or Amy McElhenney, the Miss Texas Beauty Queen, or Amy Beck of Burbank CA, or Alison Peck of Greenfield Missouri, or Abbie Swogger from Harrison PA, or the Cincinnati Bengals cheerleader Sarah Jones (hotter than hot), or or my all-time favorite hottie Melissa Andreini, of Salt Lake City Utah, who PAID a 15-year-old boy $1,500 for sex!

Clearly THESE women were driven to risky sex with males! (albeit young males, and not their older partners, we can presume).

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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
And yet, they can't/don't have it, for various reasons. Just because some men will stick a dick in anything that doesn't move too fast does not mean they want it more. It just means they have less impulse control.

I have to agree with you that men, in general, have far less so-called "impulse control" than do women. In fact, were I to research male teachers who had sex with female students, I'm pretty sure the numbers would be orders of magnitude greater than the lookup above of female teachers who had sex with their male counterparts (all of whom show lack of impulse control).
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes
And it's still all your opinion. Which you have a lot of. You're still light on facts.

What we need, which we don't have, is a MEASUREMENT of how horny people are.

In my humble opinion, men are so much hornier than women, that women can't even fathom how horny men are.
The difference is in orders of magnitude, in my humble opinion.

I do UNDERSTAND your point - which is - if I may paraphrase - that women are just as horny as men are (in general).
Certainly the EXAMPLES I showed above of female teachers who made the news because they risked everything to have sex with young boys supports your supposition.




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