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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 4:49:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just read a long article in the NYRoB about ISIS. It was packed full of information about who started it and how it mushroomed. One startling fact is that ISIS was growing and forming even as the USA was spending $100 Billion Dollars a year on the surge with 170,000 troops deployed in IRAQ.

Here's another fact to consider. In 2003, before the Iraq War:

(1) the borders of Syria and IRAQ were stable.

(2) Secular Arab nationalism appeared to have triumphed over the older forces of tribalism and religion

(3) IRAQIs and Syrians had better incomes, education, health care systems, and infrastructure, and a more positive future than most other citizens in the developing world.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 4:49:49 PM   
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You don't know our history either, we don't do proxy wars, we go in win it for them and leave them without the pride or experience of winning themselves, my approach fixes what we have been doing wrong.


Lmfao..... try using Google.


What the hell do you think is taking place in Syria.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:27:12 PM   
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Trying to decide if its more pathetic than humorous...




Hard to know where to start with this thread.

Thanks for all the pics of Palmyra Sanity, I never knew you were so interested in UNESCO world heritage sites, and had such a passion for defending them.

Oh, hang on, you don't give a fuck about UNESCO....why the pretence? Really, why bother? We all know what the thread is about. As always you are incredibly crude and transparent.

And your plan,

"build a military, a really good one"

Haven't you got a big army, that costs fuck knows how many billions a year already, I can only guess that you want to spend fuck knows how many billions more to make it even bigger.

How much good has that hugely expensive army done you recently? How much good has that hugely expensive army done the world recently?

Has it made the world a better place, a safer place?

Maybe we should go with Bama's idea of giving everyone who promises not to be in IS a load of guns and bombs. That sort of thinking has always worked in the past.... hasn't it?

The only problem with giving someone a gun is that you have to be 100% which direction they are going to point it and past history would suggest that you don't have a fucking clue.

You right wingers are so deranged it's scary.

Sanity, you are full of hate and fear, nothing good will ever come of that, just more death, more hate and more people willing to do anything to destroy what you stand for



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:33:39 PM   
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oh for fucks sake grow up.

No Never. If I grow up then you will make me behave and I will never do that. Wanna fool around for a while? hehehehehehe

yeah I have a nice comfy room and a jacket with wrap-around sleeves for you to play in.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:34:46 PM   
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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:35:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I just read a long article in the NYRoB about ISIS. It was packed full of information about who started it and how it mushroomed. One startling fact is that ISIS was growing and forming even as the USA was spending $100 Billion Dollars a year on the surge with 170,000 troops deployed in IRAQ.

Here's another fact to consider. In 2003, before the Iraq War:

(1) the borders of Syria and IRAQ were stable.

(2) Secular Arab nationalism appeared to have triumphed over the older forces of tribalism and religion

(3) IRAQIs and Syrians had better incomes, education, health care systems, and infrastructure, and a more positive future than most other citizens in the developing world.


La-la leftist land, that imaginary place where Saddam Husseins Iraq was a veritable poster child for peace, tranquility and stability



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:37:16 PM   
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DTP glad you came back to the madness:)


It took a really insane thread to drag me back, don't expect there to be many more threads this mad.

Oh hang on.......

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:40:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity



Trying to decide if its more pathetic than humorous...




Hard to know where to start with this thread.

Thanks for all the pics of Palmyra Sanity, I never knew you were so interested in UNESCO world heritage sites, and had such a passion for defending them.

Oh, hang on, you don't give a fuck about UNESCO....why the pretence? Really, why bother? We all know what the thread is about. As always you are incredibly crude and transparent.

And your plan,

"build a military, a really good one"

Haven't you got a big army, that costs fuck knows how many billions a year already, I can only guess that you want to spend fuck knows how many billions more to make it even bigger.

How much good has that hugely expensive army done you recently? How much good has that hugely expensive army done the world recently?

Has it made the world a better place, a safer place?

Maybe we should go with Bama's idea of giving everyone who promises not to be in IS a load of guns and bombs. That sort of thinking has always worked in the past.... hasn't it?

The only problem with giving someone a gun is that you have to be 100% which direction they are going to point it and past history would suggest that you don't have a fucking clue.

You right wingers are so deranged it's scary.

Sanity, you are full of hate and fear, nothing good will ever come of that, just more death, more hate and more people willing to do anything to destroy what you stand for




Straw man fallacy & ad hominem fallacy idiocy from yet another knuckle dragging leftist troll.

As if those are impressive debating skills? If cockroaches could read you might win a few over, I suppose...



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:42:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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DTP glad you came back to the madness:)


It took a really insane thread to drag me back, don't expect there to be many more threads this mad.

Oh hang on.......



Sure, you had to show up to support ISIS



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:45:36 PM   
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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:49:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

DTP glad you came back to the madness:)


It took a really insane thread to drag me back, don't expect there to be many more threads this mad.

Oh hang on.......



Sure, you had to show up to support ISIS



oh, another quality comeback. Your constant rhetoric about anyone who doesn't support your views being an Islamist or a supporter of ISIS only confirms your message of hate and fear

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:54:50 PM   
Sanity


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Status: offline 		There a reason leftists bitterly attack me for posting news about ISIS

Even knowing what they do to gays, and women etc

I understand the leftist derangement Luce

Doubt you do though

Why do you and all of your friends lick ISIS asshole lucy

Can you explain it, even to yourself?

I kinda doubt it



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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 5:56:49 PM   
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La-la leftist land, that imaginary place where Saddam Husseins Iraq was a veritable poster child for peace, tranquility and stability




Straw man fallacy & ad hominem fallacy idiocy from yet another knuckle dragging idiot troll.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:05:37 PM   
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Facts and analysis are the enemy. (Think of where they lead.....)

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:11:43 PM   
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There a reason leftists bitterly attack me for posting news about ISIS

Even knowing what they do to gays, and women etc

I understand the leftist derangement Luce

Doubt you do though

Why do you and all of your friends lick ISIS asshole lucy

Can you explain it, even to yourself?

I kinda doubt it



well first, we are only dealing with your opinion and belief, I doubt anyone is interested in responding to your lonely delusional thoughts with anything but derision...
have a nice evening.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:14:10 PM   
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Thanks for all the pics of Palmyra Sanity, I never knew you were so interested in UNESCO world heritage sites, and had such a passion for defending them.

Oh, hang on, you don't give a fuck about UNESCO....why the pretence? Really, why bother? We all know what the thread is about. As always you are incredibly crude and transparent.


This was particularly sad:

Syrian Expert Who Shielded Palmyra Antiquities Meets a Grisly Death at ISIS' Hands

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:15:19 PM   
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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:26:48 PM   
Sanity


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies

Thanks for all the pics of Palmyra Sanity, I never knew you were so interested in UNESCO world heritage sites, and had such a passion for defending them.

Oh, hang on, you don't give a fuck about UNESCO....why the pretence? Really, why bother? We all know what the thread is about. As always you are incredibly crude and transparent.


This was particularly sad:

Syrian Expert Who Shielded Palmyra Antiquities Meets a Grisly Death at ISIS' Hands


You dont fucking say

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:42:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies


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ORIGINAL: Sanity



Trying to decide if its more pathetic than humorous...




Hard to know where to start with this thread.

Thanks for all the pics of Palmyra Sanity, I never knew you were so interested in UNESCO world heritage sites, and had such a passion for defending them.

Oh, hang on, you don't give a fuck about UNESCO....why the pretence? Really, why bother? We all know what the thread is about. As always you are incredibly crude and transparent.

And your plan,

"build a military, a really good one"

Haven't you got a big army, that costs fuck knows how many billions a year already, I can only guess that you want to spend fuck knows how many billions more to make it even bigger.

How much good has that hugely expensive army done you recently? How much good has that hugely expensive army done the world recently?

Has it made the world a better place, a safer place?

Maybe we should go with Bama's idea of giving everyone who promises not to be in IS a load of guns and bombs. That sort of thinking has always worked in the past.... hasn't it?

The only problem with giving someone a gun is that you have to be 100% which direction they are going to point it and past history would suggest that you don't have a fucking clue.

You right wingers are so deranged it's scary.

Sanity, you are full of hate and fear, nothing good will ever come of that, just more death, more hate and more people willing to do anything to destroy what you stand for



To bad you can't read, if you could you would know I said arm anyone fighting ISIS with boots on the ground. Since you don't seem to know this that is far more than saying we won't join ISIS if you give us guns.
That is why I specifically named the Kurds and Yazidi. They aren't going to join with ISIS. You know people they want to exterminate. Why is it, since you guys are so smart none have you have come up with anything better than ignore them and they will go away? That has worked real well hasn't it.

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RE: Islamic State Begins Destroying Palmyra Shrines - 8/20/2015 6:44:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		83 years old. One of the mysteries of ISIS is that its founder, Abu Musah al-Zarqawi, was roundly regarded as a savage lunatic.

In 1989 he went to Afghanistan to do Jihad. In 2003 he helped organize the insurgency network with Saddam loyalists. He helped tip the country into civil war beyond the insurgency. Beyond that he:

• Blew up the UN Headquarters in IRAQ
• Released a film wherein he personally sawed off the head of an American
• He blew up the great Shia Shrine at Samarra killing hundreds of IRAQI children
• He bombed three hotels in Jordan killing 60 civilians at a wedding in the process

** An interesting side note is that the Iranians gave him safe shelter in 2002 and he repaid their kindness by strapping a suicide vest to his father-in-law to kill IRAN's senior politic advisor in IRAQ, Ayatollah Mohammad Baqir al-Hakim. After that he blew up several Shia shrines.

He was killed in 2006.

Overall ISIS has changed its name seven times and has had four leaders. It is still a mystery what attracts fighters to ISIS. No one really liked it founder. One point in favor of ISIS is that many SUNNIs see it as their only protection from SHIA reprisals. (In 2006 Shia militias killed 50 SUNNIS a day by putting a power drill through their skulls thereafter dumping the bodies on the streets of Baghdad.)

ISIS is not delivering sustainable economic growth or stable justice within its territories, and it has reintroduced forcible rape and slavery as legal.

It only took 300 ISIS fighters to overwhelm Ramadi and drive out thousands of better equipped IRAQI soldiers.

Today 30 countries claim to have ties to ISIS.

The OP doesn't read, so you'd never get this kind of information or background from his posting -- which is limited to Drudge site links.

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