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ORIGINAL: BamaD

You don't know our history either, we don't do proxy wars,

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we go in win it for them and leave them without the pride or experience of winning themselves,

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None of the people who are attacking my plan have come up with anything other than hiding their heads in the sand

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Why is it, since you guys are so smart none have you have come up with anything better than ignore them and they will go away?

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La-la leftist land, that imaginary place where Saddam Husseins Iraq was a veritable poster child for peace, tranquility and stability

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

83 years old. One of the mysteries of ISIS is that its founder, Abu Musah al-Zarqawi, was roundly regarded as a savage lunatic.

In 1989 he went to Afghanistan to do Jihad. In 2003 he helped organize the insurgency network with Saddam loyalists. He helped tip the country into civil war beyond the insurgency. Beyond that he:

• Blew up the UN Headquarters in IRAQ
• Released a film wherein he personally sawed off the head of an American
• He blew up the great Shia Shrine at Samarra killing hundreds of IRAQI children
• He bombed three hotels in Jordan killing 60 civilians at a wedding in the process

** An interesting side note is that the Iranians gave him safe shelter in 2002 and he repaid their kindness by strapping a suicide vest to his father-in-law to kill IRAN's senior politic advisor in IRAQ, Ayatollah Mohammad Baqir al-Hakim. After that he blew up several Shia shrines.

He was killed in 2006.

Overall ISIS has changed its name seven times and has had four leaders. It is still a mystery what attracts fighters to ISIS. No one really liked it founder. One point in favor of ISIS is that many SUNNIs see it as their only protection from SHIA reprisals. (In 2006 Shia militias killed 50 SUNNIS a day by putting a power drill through their skulls thereafter dumping the bodies on the streets of Baghdad.)

ISIS is not delivering sustainable economic growth or stable justice within its territories, and it has reintroduced forcible rape and slavery as legal.

It only took 300 ISIS fighters to overwhelm Ramadi and drive out thousands of better equipped IRAQI soldiers.

Today 30 countries claim to have ties to ISIS.

The OP doesn't read, so you'd never get this kind of information or background from his posting -- which is limited to Drudge site links.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Brave man, and a vicious ending

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

There a reason leftists bitterly attack me for posting news about ISIS

Even knowing what they do to gays, and women etc

I understand the leftist derangement Luce

Doubt you do though

Why do you and all of your friends lick ISIS asshole lucy

Can you explain it, even to yourself?

I kinda doubt it

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

There a reason leftists bitterly attack me for posting news about ISIS

Even knowing what they do to gays, and women etc

I understand the leftist derangement Luce

Doubt you do though

Why do you and all of your friends lick ISIS asshole lucy

Can you explain it, even to yourself?

I kinda doubt it

More rabid trolling from you. This is the kind of bollocks I point out which you call "rude"

I havent seen anyone "lick ISIS arsehole" just your fucking childish insinuations........ And if you feel thats rude, you had best get used to more of the same.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

There a reason leftists bitterly attack me for posting news about ISIS

Even knowing what they do to gays, and women etc

I understand the leftist derangement Luce

Doubt you do though

Why do you and all of your friends lick ISIS asshole lucy

Can you explain it, even to yourself?

I kinda doubt it

More rabid trolling from you. This is the kind of bollocks I point out which you call "rude"

I havent seen anyone "lick ISIS arsehole" just your fucking childish insinuations........ And if you feel thats rude, you had best get used to more of the same.

Polite how could you? You are so behaving to form.

Remember that elsewhere Sanity labelled the pair of us "rabid Islamist propaganda"* tools, with anti-Semitic agendas whose sole purpose in life is to promote IS's agenda. Just in case anyone is confused, yes it's the very same Sanity that is forever complaining about being subjected to "ad hominem attacks" by "knuckle dragging leftist troll(s)".

Pointing out that Sanity is continuously engaged in the very behaviour that he so loudly condemns in others, (regardless of whether they actually engage in the behaviour or not) is clearly and unequivocally the act of a rabid Islamist who probably eats infants for breakfast and engages in sex trafficking and slavery for an amusing hobby. You are confirming the stereotype!

Fortunately there are towering intellectual giants such as Sanity who selflessly and courageously stand loud and tall against the Islamist agenda, saving the decadent West from its own demise and preserving Mum apple pie and all that for posterity. Without such stalwarts holding the line against the Islamist hordes, valiantly and gallantly defending God, the USA and freedom, it's a certainty that Sharia Law would be the norm in the West and I would be imprisoned in a hijab (any colour you like as long as it's black) for an eternity..........


signed
a rabid Islamist propaganda organ


* Here's the full paragraph in all its (ahem) glory:
Tweaker Bells is a rabid Islamist propaganda organ, who hates Jews because her Koran tells her to. Rude Troll, aka "politesub" is Tweaker Bells main minion. They both deny it but oft let allow their extreme antisemitism to brightly shine through their masks, and their purpose with this thread is to lead you to believe that all Jews are committing terrorism and genocide etc etc etc against any and all Muslims they encounter
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831643/mpage_5/tm.htm#4832201

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I just read a long article in the NYRoB about ISIS. It was packed full of information about who started it and how it mushroomed. One startling fact is that ISIS was growing and forming even as the USA was spending $100 Billion Dollars a year on the surge with 170,000 troops deployed in IRAQ.

Here's another fact to consider. In 2003, before the Iraq War:

(1) the borders of Syria and IRAQ were stable.

(2) Secular Arab nationalism appeared to have triumphed over the older forces of tribalism and religion

(3) IRAQIs and Syrians had better incomes, education, health care systems, and infrastructure, and a more positive future than most other citizens in the developing world.

La-la leftist land, that imaginary place where Saddam Husseins Iraq was a veritable poster child for peace, tranquility and stability

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Tweakabelle, I do think you were being rather sarcastic about Sanity, there. It wasn't very ladylike of you, I have to say. :-(

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

hes off his fucking gourd.

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Beheading of Khaled al-Asaad, keeper of Palmyra, unites Syria in condemnation

Admired for his work in documenting and promoting Syria’s cultural heritage, Asaad was regarded as a national treasure by regime loyalists and opponents

Islamic State’s execution of Khaled al-Asaad, the keeper of Palmyra’s extraordinary cultural artefacts, has inspired a rare consensus among Syria’s other political factions.

The archaeologist and historian reportedly opposed the 2011 uprising against the country’s president, Bashar al-Assad, but his murder has provoked grief and condemnation from regime loyalists and opposition activists.

Syrian activists say Isis militants captured Asaad shortly after they seized control of the ancient city of Palmyra in May. He was reportedly released and recaptured later before he was beheaded in a public square on Tuesday. According to a placard tied to his corpse, Asaad was accused of apostasy. His alleged crimes included representing Syria at “infidel conferences”, serving as “the director of idolatry” in Palmyra, visiting Iran to commemorate the anniversary of the “Khomeini revolution” and communicating with Syrian military officers, including his brother Col Issa al-Asaadin.

Maamoun Abdulkarim, the director of Syria’s department of antiquities and museums, told CNN that Asaad had been executed because he refused to tell the militants the whereabouts of Palmyra’s treasures. There is no evidence this was the case, but local activists reported the regime had relocated antiquities as Isis closed on the city because of fears the militants would destroy or loot the ancient site. Once the group took control it did destroy two shrines that it considered idolatrous, according to its puritanical interpretation of Islam.
Khaled al-Asaad's enthusiasm for Palmyra was inextinguishable
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Another reason for Assad’s murder has, however, been overlooked. His execution is consistent with the actions of Isis, and its progenitor al-Qaida in Iraq, in targeting intellectuals, technocrats, tribal leaders and activists in both Iraq and Syria. Over the past decade, the group has intimidated and eliminated thousands of such influential figures. As such, it was surprising that Asaad chose to remain in Palmyra. In other Isis-controlled territories, intellectuals and community leaders have either fled or maintained a low profile.

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Full article here:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/22/beheading-of-khaled-al-asaad-keeper-of-palmyra-unites-syria-in-condemnation

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Islamic State destroys fifth-century monastery in central Syria


mage circulated by Isis purports to show the bulldozing of the Saint Elian monastery.

Islamic State has demolished a monastery founded more than 1,500 years ago in central Syria, near a town where the extremists abducted dozens of Christians earlier this month, activists said.

The destruction of the Saint Elian monastery near the town of Qaryatain comes days after Isis militants in Palmyra publicly beheaded an 81-year-old antiquities scholar who had dedicated his life to studying and overseeing the town’s ancient ruins.

The developments have stoked concerns that Isis may be accelerating its campaign to destroy and loot non-Islamic and pre-Islamic heritage sites inside the swaths of Iraq and Syria it controls.

“I think we are worried about almost all the heritage sites in Syria. Nothing is safe,” said Irina Bokova, director general of Unesco.

The militant group, which captured the Qaryatain area in early August, posted photos on social media on Friday showing bulldozers destroying the Saint Elian monastery.


An image circulated by Isis purporting to show jihadis preparing to destroy the monastery in Qaryatain.

Full article here:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/21/islamic-state-destroyed-ancient-saint-eliane-monastery-syria-says-priest

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ISIS blows up ancient temple in Syria’s Palmyra



Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militants on Sunday blew up the ancient temple of Baal Shamin in the UNESCO-listed Syrian city of Palmyra, the country’s antiquities chief told AFP.

“Daesh placed a large quantity of explosives in the temple of Baal Shamin today and then blew it up causing much damage to the temple,” said Maamoun Abdulkarim, using another name for ISIS.

Over the past several months, ISIS have blown up and defaced historical sites and artifacts across their sprawling self-proclaimed "caliphate" stretching across Iraq and Syria.

ISIS took control of Palmyra in May, located in the central desert region of the country, sparking worldwide concern that they would destroy its 2,000 year-old ruins. ..

Full article here:

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/08/24/ISIS-blows-up-temple-in-Syria-s-Palmyra.html

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Another one is gone. From Al Arabiya News: