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Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 11:36:10 AM)

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There were movies making the James Gang and Billy as victims/heros.
None praising the James gang in your lifetime.


THE JESSE JAMES MOVIE LIST

The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Bob Ford (2007)

Jesse James, American Experience PBS (2006)

Jesse James: Legend, Outlaw, Terrorist (2005)

Mystery of Jesse James (2004)

American Outlaws (2001)

"The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne" The Ballad of Steeley Joe (2000)

Baptist Freedom Fighters (2000 est)

Ride With the Devil (1999)

Purgatory (1999)

Gunfighters of the West, Jesse James (1998)

Lawrence: Free State Fortress (1998)

The James Gang, Outlaw Brothers (1995)

Frank & Jesse (1994)

Legends of the American West (1992)

The Long Riders (1980)

The Last Days of Frank and Jesse James (1986)

Legend of the Golden Gun (1979)

Little House on the Prarie (1977-78)

The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)

The Great Northfield Minnesota Raid (1972)

A Time for Dying (1969)

Hondo and the Judas (1967)

Jesse James Meets Frankenstein’s Daughter (1966)

The Outlaws Is Coming (1965)

Arizona Raiders (1965)

Bronco, Shadow of Jesse James (1960)

Young Jesse James (1960)

Alias Jesse James (1959)

Cole Younger, Gunfighter (1958)

Quantrill's Raiders (1958)

The True Story of Jesse James (1957)

Hell’s Crossroads (1957)

Jesse James Vs. the Daltons (1954)

Jesse James’ Women (1954)

The Great Jesse James Raid (1953)

The Woman they Almost Lynched (1953)

The Great Missouri Raid (1951)

Best of the Badmen (1951)

Kansas Raiders (1950)

I Shot Jesse James (1949)

The Fighting Man of the Plains (1949)

The James Brothers of Missouri (1949)

The Return of Frank and Jesse James (1948)

Adventures of Frank and Jesse James (1948)

Jesse James Rides Again (1947)

Badman’s Territory (1946)

Renegade Girl (1946)

The Remarkable Andrew (1942)

The Bad Men of Missouri (1941)

The Return of Frank James (1940)

Dark Command (1940)

Days of Jesse James (1939)

Jesse James at Bay (1939)

Jesse James (1939)

Jesse James (1930)

Jesse James as the Outlaw (1922)

Jesse James Under the Black Flag (1921)

Jesse James (1911)

The James Boys of Missouri (1908)


Only the last two were not in my lifetime



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And the last one making Billy a victim was part of the phase of demonizing western lawmen.


Pat Garrett and William Bonny have always been depicted as a sympathetic figgure dealing with the duality of their friendship and their occupation.



Sanity -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 12:12:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

No, you are ignoring the obvious. There are no cops celibrating because there is another dead civilian.

http://filmingcops.com/deader-than-roadkill-cops-sing-and-celebrate-death-of-michael-brown/
Yeah there are.

From your source:

A shocking video has surfaced online showing a police event at a lodge during which police and their families can be heard singing and celebrating the shooting death of Michael Brown.

Yeah, no....

The Glendale, CA Elks Lodge is investigating a shocking incident that went down in the club a week ago Monday, when a performer sang a song celebrating the death of Michael Brown ... for an audience that included a number of retired and current cops

An Elks lodge. Just some police families there. And nobody even seems to be paying much attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEHVJCl1_2Y

K.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/24/us-usa-police-song-idUSKBN0K20JF20141224

A song poking fun at the killing of black teenager Michael Brown by a white policeman, performed at a retired officer's party, has prompted the Los Angeles Police Department to launch an internal investigation, its chief said on Tuesday.
Commenting on the song, Chief Charlie Beck said on Twitter: "Like many of you, I find it offensive & absurd. It does not reflect the values of the #LAPD."

"I have directed our Professional Standards Bureau to look into this & determine if any active department employees were involved."

An LAPD spokesman declined further comment.

The song, which changed the lyrics to "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown", a 1973 hit by American folk rock singer Jim Croce, was performed at a party organized by a retired LAPD officer at an Elks Lodge in the Los Angeles suburb Glendale on Dec. 15, local media reported.

A trustee for the lodge, in a statement to LA Weekly, apologized for the song, which he called inappropriate and said does not reflect the group's values.






Yeah, thank you Lucy

An internal investigation and an apology rather than high fives and escalating chants about frying blacks like whatever

Interesting contrast between those who are sworn to protect and serve and the BLM terrorists



Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 12:48:06 PM)

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Yeah, thank you Lucy

An internal investigation and an apology rather than high fives and escalating chants about frying blacks like whatever


Have we seen the apologies of the attendies or just the guy in charge of damage control?

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Interesting contrast between those who are sworn to protect and serve and the BLM terrorists


The Winnibago and subsequent Castle Rock v. Gonzales, decission made it pretty clear just who they are to serve and protect did it not?



cloudboy -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:01:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


It is in the DOJ report which was referenced in the article...you haven't read it? I fail to understand why you have not. It is the seminal document of all of these discussions about Ferguson. How is that you seek to discuss this issue from a position of ignorance?





This much was clear from the finding of Arch City Defenders. (Below)

>Ferguson’s law enforcement practices are shaped by the City’s focus on revenue rather than by public safety needs. This emphasis on revenue has compromised the institutional character of Ferguson’s police department, contributing to a pattern of unconstitutional policing, and has also shaped its municipal court, leading to procedures that raise due process concerns and inflict unnecessary harm on members of the Ferguson community.< DOJ Summary

^^^^^ The Police Department's mission "to protect and serve" was undermined by another agenda or harass, ticket, and fine. I would have hated them too.

^^^^^ This is otherwise known as a RED STATE or RED District ASSHOLE POLICY, wherein cowardly legislatures fear raising taxes but need revenues -- and hence make the police into hated, thuggish, tax collectors. There is nothing worse than a revenue scheme masquerading as "public safety."



Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:18:42 PM)

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^^^^^ This is otherwise known as a RED STATE or RED District ASSHOLE POLICY, wherein cowardly legislatures fear raising taxes but need revenues -- and hence make the police into hated, thuggish, tax collectors. There is nothing worse than a revenue scheme masquerading as "public safety."


There are many things more reprehensible. Not to say that extorting a couple of million dollars a year from the black residents of Ferguson (yes the judge that was fired would exonerate the fines of white people caught up in the extortion scheme) is not reprehensible.
On the other hand it would be unfair to characterize this behavior as a red state thing. Politicians are the same no matter what color their necktie is. California is suppose to be as blue as the sky yet the LAPD was in the penality box for a couple of years and it now appears that the LASO will follow in the same tracks. The folks singing diddies about the dead black in Ferguson were some of LA's "finest"



cloudboy -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:30:17 PM)


No, Democrats are more likely to raise taxes and not put that additional burden on the Police. Democrats, though, have assigned the Police to the Drug War, which is another battle that pits the police against the local population.



kdsub -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:32:08 PM)

I agree with some of your post... But it is not cowardly politicians... It is the people of the area themselves either too cheap or too poor to vote for taxes. I think cities just need to operate as afford only. If that means one every other week trash... And potholes in roads so be it.



Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:36:20 PM)

Or perhaps as in the case of Ferguson, fewer police. Since according to the DOJ report that was the purpose of the police...to extort money from the black residents of Ferguson. Since they can no longer operate an extortion racket there would necessarily be less of a need for them.



cloudboy -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:40:03 PM)

In Maryland the Eastern Shore is highly conservative, and the speed traps to ensnare beach goers are a renown revenue collection scheme. Its been that way for 50 years or more here. The state troopers are like fishermen.



Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:40:14 PM)

Did you not read the part about California being a blue state.
Did you not read the part about the Los Angeles Police Department being taken over by the DOJ because they were a bunch of criminals?
That is not raising taxes or anything of the sort that is nothing more than criminals in police uniforms.



kdsub -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 1:43:58 PM)

Did the DOJ recommend that? Hell why stop at police... Get rid of some of those pesky fireman...don't forget crossing guards... Heh I wonder if they have a dog catcher? I guess they could get rid of their public works folks too...no wait someone has to clean up after the riots



epiphiny43 -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 2:31:27 PM)

Why the DOJ has California in it's sights. People Living there know many departments are consciously as close to Gestapo as they can manage. I moved away largely because San Diego and many coastal Orange County PDs were a clear and present danger to my liberty, health and life. And I'm WHITE. If you aren't clearly a Caucasion conservative property owner, look out.
U.S. police have killed 745 people this year. This is how it breaks down by state. (See attachment below, no idea why I can't get it to display)

According to statistics provided by Mapping Police Violence, American police are on track to kill around 1,200 people in 2015. While there’s a clear correlation between the number of officer-involved homicides and state population size, a few states stand out as having extremely high numbers of deaths.


LEOs died in the Line of Duty:


Line of Duty Deaths: 83
9/11 related illness: 3
Accidental: 2
Aircraft accident: 1
Assault: 3
Automobile accident: 19
Fall: 1
Gunfire: 24
Gunfire (Accidental): 2
Heart attack: 13
Motorcycle accident: 3
Struck by vehicle: 5
Vehicle pursuit: 4
Vehicular assault: 3
-----
(http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/)



Thegunnysez -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 2:55:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Did the DOJ recommend that? Hell why stop at police...


I would imagine that it was because the police were the criminals.


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Get rid of some of those pesky fireman...don't forget crossing guards... Heh I wonder if they have a dog catcher?



If you read the DOJ report it did not find any criminal behavior by the fire department, crossing guards or dog catchers so there would be no need to fire them.


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I guess they could get rid of their public works folks too...no wait someone has to clean up after the riots

I wonder who cleaned up Boston harbor after they dumped the tea?



epiphiny43 -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 3:04:39 PM)

The single best reply to "All lives matter": https://www.reddit.com/comments/3du1qm/
White lives have always mattered. Police lives have always mattered. The message America doesn't want to hear is,
Black Lives Matter TOO!



BamaD -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 3:12:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

The single best reply to "All lives matter": https://www.reddit.com/comments/3du1qm/
White lives have always mattered. Police lives have always mattered. The message America doesn't want to hear is,
Black Lives Matter TOO!


Wrong nobody is offended by black lives mattering.
Of course black lives matter.
Many are offended by it being used as a cover for thugs.
When it is used as an excuse to drive presidential candidates from the stage (and I like Sanders and O'Mally even less than I do Trump).
When it is used as an excuse to murder cops.
When BLM rallies feature people celibrating the murder of a cop.
This is what America doesn't want to hear.



kdsub -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 4:23:14 PM)

But neither did it recommend the size of the department be reduced... people with any sense if asked what should not be cut in a city budget the police would be at the top of the list closely followed by the Fire Department.

I did say sensible.

One thing for sure... the people of Ferguson will make this decision.... up to them

Butch



cloudboy -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 4:23:53 PM)


Exactly. Well Stated. White lives have always mattered, and this is NOT THE CASE with Black Lives.

The racial Paranoia of some here on the CMMB is astonishing....



cloudboy -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 4:25:06 PM)


True, there are incentives for police revenue collections across the board.



Sanity -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 4:59:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Exactly. Well Stated. White lives have always mattered, and this is NOT THE CASE with Black Lives.

The racial Paranoia of some here on the CMMB is astonishing....


Hence BLM marchers chanting about murdering white cops... And apparently following through with their terrorist threats

/sarcasm



Sanity -> RE: 'Black Lives Matter' is becoming a terrorist group (9/2/2015 5:02:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


No, Democrats are more likely to raise taxes and not put that additional burden on the Police. Democrats, though, have assigned the Police to the Drug War, which is another battle that pits the police against the local population.


DERP

For the most part, the incidents that have been making the news have been occurring in Democrat controlled cities




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