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Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becoming more combative?

Yes, it is becoming more hostile, adversarial and combative down here.

43% (14)

Yes, it is becoming so heated down here, I turn the A/C up.

0% (0)

Yes, it is becoming like a snake pit down here, full of vipers.

3% (1)

Yes, it is getting so bad, I take medication before I post.

3% (1)

Yes, it is becoming hostile down here, and I fucking love it.

0% (0)

No, it has always been like this.

25% (8)

No, it is actually getting better down here.

3% (1)

I enjoy a hostile and adversarial place, this is great!

3% (1)

I think it is tame down here, it is like DisneyWorld.

6% (2)

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

12% (4)

Total Votes : 32

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/1/2015 6:44:02 PM

kdsub

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Not really... it seems to be 10 thinking it is hostile or a snake pit and 13 who think it is just fine,Disney land or don't give a damn.

So 10 to 13 you lose...

Butch

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/1/2015 9:19:38 PM

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Yes, it is becoming more hostile, adversarial and combative down here.
37% (9)
Yes, it is becoming so heated down here, I turn the A/C up.
0% (0)
Yes, it is becoming like a snake pit down here, full of vipers.
4% (1)
Yes, it is getting so bad, I take medication before I post.
4% (1)
Yes, it is becoming hostile down here, and I fucking love it.
0% (0)
No, it has always been like this.
25% (6)
No, it is actually getting better down here.
4% (1)
I enjoy a hostile and adversarial place, this is great!
4% (1)
I think it is tame down here, it is like DisneyWorld.
8% (2)
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
12% (3)

last time I checked 37 is bigger than 25 and 9 is bigger than 6 LOL

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 1:38:26 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I'm making an effort not to feed the trolls anymore. One can only take so much gerrymandered stupidity, closed mindedness, and useless thinking. Who would have thought the internet would be such a strong, vibrant crutch for gullible brainlessness / motivated reasoning. (Think right wing feeder-sites.)

At least now we all know that there's an internet link to stake a claim for anything --- and this is especially important to the crowd that hates experts, facts, history, good investigative journalism, and science.

That Courthouse Clerk in Kentucky about sums up everything --- an army of jackhammers couldn't punch out her bigotry masquerading as "religion."

An army of jackhammers couldn't punch out others' ignorant "patriotism," nativism, racism, sexism, and other forms of magical (and often mean-spirited) thinking.

Wait, who's the troll?

Man, you seem to be taking after Sanity's Insanity. So I'll break it down slowly: it isn't trolling if it's true. There, hope that clears some things up

Absolutely, and thank you. I knew I was leaving someone out.

K.

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 2:57:55 AM

JVoV

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Not really... it seems to be 10 thinking it is hostile or a snake pit and 13 who think it is just fine,Disney land or don't give a damn.

So 10 to 13 you lose...

Butch

This is just primary season. A runoff election may be inevitable.

(in reply to kdsub)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 3:48:25 AM

Lucylastic

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tkman117
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata
quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I'm making an effort not to feed the trolls anymore. One can only take so much gerrymandered stupidity, closed mindedness, and useless thinking. Who would have thought the internet would be such a strong, vibrant crutch for gullible brainlessness / motivated reasoning. (Think right wing feeder-sites.)

At least now we all know that there's an internet link to stake a claim for anything --- and this is especially important to the crowd that hates experts, facts, history, good investigative journalism, and science.

That Courthouse Clerk in Kentucky about sums up everything --- an army of jackhammers couldn't punch out her bigotry masquerading as "religion."

An army of jackhammers couldn't punch out others' ignorant "patriotism," nativism, racism, sexism, and other forms of magical (and often mean-spirited) thinking.

Wait, who's the troll?

Man, you seem to be taking after Sanity's Insanity. So I'll break it down slowly: it isn't trolling if it's true. There, hope that clears some things up

Absolutely, and thank you. I knew I was leaving someone out.

K.

how about I nominate you and you nominate me....

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 4:04:36 AM

Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

how about I nominate you and you nominate me....

LOL... Partners in crime!

K.

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 4:08:35 AM

Lucylastic

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LOL I think that would be worrisome for a lot of people!!!!

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 4:36:54 AM

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its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 4:45:05 AM

bounty44

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

I'm making an effort not to feed the trolls anymore. One can only take so much gerrymandered stupidity, closed mindedness, and useless thinking. Who would have thought the internet would be such a strong, vibrant crutch for gullible brainlessness / motivated reasoning. (Think right wing feeder-sites.)

At least now we all know that there's an internet link to stake a claim for anything --- and this is especially important to the crowd that hates experts, facts, history, good investigative journalism, and science.

That Courthouse Clerk in Kentucky about sums up everything --- an army of jackhammers couldn't punch out her bigotry masquerading as "religion."

An army of jackhammers couldn't punch out others' ignorant "patriotism," nativism, racism, sexism, and other forms of magical (and often mean-spirited) thinking.

your self serving arrogance is matched only by your self justifying ignorance.

do I remember rightly your saying you were a high school teacher? how sadly unsuited you are for the job---unless, like too many other liberals, you see it as a place for indoctrinating people to your own point of view.

(in reply to cloudboy)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 4:49:11 AM

bounty44

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I trust you have very specific examples of that occurring you could post here?

(in reply to itsSIRtou)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 5:26:48 AM

KenDckey

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Hey Sanity Think we should investigate the numbers more? How about some questins about why people think it is becoming more combative

- Political leanings
- Name calling is fun
= Name calling is productive
- Only those that believe as I do could ever ever ever be right, no matter the topic
- Obama is always right, the rest of the world is wrong.
- Hillary is always right, except when Obama is right.
- The government must fund only what Progressives want
- It's Bush's fault
- Science is always right, except when you disagree with it.
- other (please specify)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 6:07:35 AM

itsSIRtou

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I trust you have very specific examples of that occurring you could post here?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831164/mpage_10/tm.htm start with My post #189 and read forward for a recent and personal example..... I slapped him up on a few comments he made on that thread..... Im sure you could easily find others he's gotten spanked on.....

If Id of had more time Im sure I could take him the rest of the way down.....but Im a non-traditional (older) Business college student, AND self-employed, so My time IS limited (professors get grumpy when you don't get homework in on time....)

So I have to make Myself quit after a bit of wacking people of his ilk around... its too much fun.

there ARE actually intelligent right-wing people here worthy of healthy debate.....sanity's not one of them by light-years.....like a billion of them....

notice what happened when I DIRECTLY asked him why should anyone pay attention to his assertions as opposed to a professional journalist he called a "shill" ??

his thread against "Black Lives Matter" popped up pretty quickly after..... coincidence? Maybe....

< Message edited by itsSIRtou -- 9/2/2015 6:31:01 AM >

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 6:14:57 AM

Sanity

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quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I trust you have very specific examples of that occurring you could post here?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831164/mpage_10/tm.htm start with My post #189 and read forward for a recent and personal example..... I slapped him up on a few comments He made on that thread..... Im sure you could easily find others he's gotten spanked on.....

If Id of had more time Im sure I could take him the rest of the way down.....but Im a non-traditional (older) Business college student, AND self-employed, so My time IS limited (professors get grumpy when you don't get homework in on time....)

So I have to make Myself quit after a bit of wacking people of his ilk around...

there ARE actually intelligent right-wing people here worthy of healthy debate.....sanity's not one of them by light-years.....like a billion of them....

I quit responding to you in that thread because I realized you are essentially insane and can do no better than childish personal attacks

A classic dont feed the troll situation

And yeah, that makes you a real winner alright...

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 6:52:55 AM

itsSIRtou

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I trust you have very specific examples of that occurring you could post here?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831164/mpage_10/tm.htm start with My post #189 and read forward for a recent and personal example..... I slapped him up on a few comments He made on that thread..... Im sure you could easily find others he's gotten spanked on.....

If Id of had more time Im sure I could take him the rest of the way down.....but Im a non-traditional (older) Business college student, AND self-employed, so My time IS limited (professors get grumpy when you don't get homework in on time....)

So I have to make Myself quit after a bit of wacking people of his ilk around...

there ARE actually intelligent right-wing people here worthy of healthy debate.....sanity's not one of them by light-years.....like a billion of them....

I quit responding to you in that thread because I realized you are essentially insane and can do no better than childish personal attacks

A classic dont feed the troll situation

And yeah, that makes you a real winner alright...

sure......u just comfort urself with that...... THE FACT is u don't have a REAL answer for it. u know ur not a respectable person and u wave that flag way too often.

Why are you agreeing with this when you know it is true? ur a running joke with a punch line too easy to see coming.

u calling people insane just because u don't have an intelligent reply is just u acting stupid because u know how to. If My pointing out (with FACTS) something u said ( like u did about Native Americans & "locals") is u talking out ur clenched tight ass, and all u can do is say "Im insane" or Im a "leftist knuckle-dragger" (because I AM a leftist), then My assessment of u IS correct.

< Message edited by itsSIRtou -- 9/2/2015 6:58:02 AM >

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What would the internet be like if we couldn't say trump is a moron?

The Republican party complains government doesnt work for people, and then makes darn sure it cannot.

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 8:10:34 AM

kdsub

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quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I think you should reassess your leading statement considering the political realities of today.

Butch

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 8:56:11 AM

Sanity

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Your assessment of me...

Why does the leftist trash on this site obsess with 'assessing' me

It's because I own them

I am the center of their world...

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 9:04:42 AM

Real0ne

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

how about I nominate you and you nominate me....

LOL... Partners in crime!

K.

unfortunately that is the way its done, though the nominators are not in the public eye

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 9:19:42 AM

bounty44

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quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

its become more combative here I think because the old politics are losing to a more progressive and moderate group of people. and they hate that of course.

since his names been mentioned,..... take "sanity" for instance, he's been proven to of been very wrong on a number of threads, so what does he do? leaves that one & starts another thread with an inflammatory subject with insulting people politically left his primary goal.

he seems to Me not to care if his facts are correct, just that he gets to spew names at the left and have something to fight about. Not have a sane discussion, just fight.

I trust you have very specific examples of that occurring you could post here?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831164/mpage_10/tm.htm start with My post #189 and read forward for a recent and personal example..... I slapped him up on a few comments he made on that thread..... Im sure you could easily find others he's gotten spanked on.....

If Id of had more time Im sure I could take him the rest of the way down.....but Im a non-traditional (older) Business college student, AND self-employed, so My time IS limited (professors get grumpy when you don't get homework in on time....)

So I have to make Myself quit after a bit of wacking people of his ilk around... its too much fun.

there ARE actually intelligent right-wing people here worthy of healthy debate.....sanity's not one of them by light-years.....like a billion of them....

notice what happened when I DIRECTLY asked him why should anyone pay attention to his assertions as opposed to a professional journalist he called a "shill" ??

his thread against "Black Lives Matter" popped up pretty quickly after..... coincidence? Maybe....

bear with me please---and more to the point of my question, in a sentence or three could you sum up exactly how he "was proven wrong?" I don't see it in the conversation you are using as your exemplar.

(in reply to itsSIRtou)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 9:39:36 AM

Thegunnysez

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Your assessment of me...

do you not make assessments of others?

quote:

Why does the leftist trash on this site obsess with 'assessing' me

Perhaps it may be that they do not agree with your own assessment of yourself.

quote:

It's because I own them

If that were true you would have control over what they post...clearly that is not true unless you are into public humiliation, which typically is the outcome of most of your post.

quote:

I am the center of their world...

More likely the center of their target.

(in reply to Sanity)

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RE: Is the Political/Religious Discussion board becomin... - 9/2/2015 12:59:03 PM

tj444

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Marini

Is the atmosphere down here in the Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussions, becoming more hostile, adversarial and combative?

Lately, when I glance through most threads on here, I witness more name calling and attacking, then any discussions with substance.

yes, Rs defend the R party/politicians with their last dying breath and the Ds do the same for the D party/politicians.. most dont see the screwing from both sides or they choose not to see it.. Imo, if they did see it, that would make voting rather pointless and even thinking about the broken/corrupt American political system would be too darn depressing for them.. there would be so many people jumping outta windows that street sweepers couldnt handle it.. so its sorta believing you might win the lottery.. maybe,.. maybe,.. this time..

however.. I dont think its really become more hostile/combative.. the rules have changed so people can say pretty much what they really want to say without being sneaky like before where the insults were roundabout & imo actually more hurtful.. if someone calls someone else a nasty name, then imo, its actually discounted in my mind even tho it may sound hostile/combative.. to call someone a nasty name just means that someone got under your thin skin and good for them!

Imo, a person loses when they name call/insult cuz it shows they cant control their emotions which means that they are easily manipulated (and i hold easily manipulated people in very low regard)..

Also a factor is that some intelligent posters seem to have better things to do than waste their time trying to explain stuff to the less intelligent posters (who hang out here so much that i wonder if they actually have a job/work)..

So the discussions have become.. cannibalistic...

< Message edited by tj444 -- 9/2/2015 1:04:18 PM >

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