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TheCabal -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 1:44:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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It's certainly the reasonable one. I wonder when women start to notice the left are OK with men hanging out in their locker rooms and rest rooms?


How did this become a left right thing?


It's not. It's strictly a left thing.



TheCabal -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 1:48:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

I can tell you spent a lot of time considering your responses.
Thank you for your time.


I really do. It's why I don't say absurd things like: "It does not say regularly it says often those are not the same."

And before you decide you want to argue that point, Thesaurus.com begs to differ with you.



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 1:53:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech

I'm thinking of the Japanese tagline that translates something like, "nudity is often seen but never noticed".


When I was stationed in Japan it was not common for most people to have more than a toilet and a sink in their home. Everyone used the communal bath house. Gaigin are not restricted from using the bathhouse. You go in pay your .03 cents (seriously 1965) and sit at a spigot and use a small bucket to wash and rinse yourself...then you are ready for the soak tubs....not all naked people are attractive so you can lay back and cover your eyes with the washcloth they give you and hide from it. Seriously not centerfold material.



Real0ne -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 1:59:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

yeh but I tire quickly of debates that disintegrate into nothing more than useless strawman arguments and turning a blind eye to the facts.


Then there is the fellow who thinks the word probably needs to have something other than the context applied to it's meaning in an effort to bring his debate skills to the table.
Now if this was a debate with a moderator to excise any but the actual debate then the scoring of points and a ranking of the players could be posted and all of the snide and not so snide remarks would never be seen by any but their poster.

It does not however justify your constant posting strawman arguments to distract and defer the subject matter to unrelated issues.

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If its not genetic, which is proven, then its something else. It cant be both.


I am sure you are aware(because I told you) about the geocentric model of the solar system being proved for a really long time. Longer than the one you are holding as gosple. Since we do not know what the cause is we cannot know if there are multiple causes.

Yeh I really did not take it seriously since I dont submit to the credibility of academic agreement at face value. nice try though

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this is turning into nothing more than a pissing contest of strawman attacks against the facts which is trolling.

In other words once that takes place the arguments in that venue no longer have any value. straw houses go up on flames



I have known people who answer the phone just because it rings. My point is that if you wish to have a discussion with someone and another trolls you, are you required to respond? If you think it is possible to have a debate here you are mistaken. Precisely because of people like you. Someone who would rather argue that the word probably has a completely different meaning than the context. You later concede the point by saying "eventually" and then complain that your "opponent" doesn't "play " fair. I do believe that discussion is possible here but debate never. For a debate you need a ref and a score keeper.




Its important to remind trolls that their arguments have been properly disposed of as they appear to have very short memories.

I especially like this one, in fact cornell recently did a law review on this as applies to the courts:

Precisely because of people like you. Someone who would rather argue that the word probably has a completely different meaning than the context.

You and others of your ilk would argue that black is white and then expect everyone to accept black is white simply because you declared as such the rest of the world is supposed to blindly accept your presumption of context.

Well it does not work that way in the real world. In the real world the words mean what they did at the time of usage, not what ever fantastical meaning you want to assign to them 200 years after the fact when you are suffering defeat and up the creek without a paddle.

Words like freedom 1792 a franchise agreement, British Estate under the king = US State, holocaust 1900 a burnt 'Olah' offering, today mass genocide, extermination 1916 forced out of a countries borders 1970 forward mass murder. People are being attacked by intellectual subterfuge from posers on nearly a 24/7 basis now days. jtrig comes to mind among others.

Yes the world is faced with people who force their political syntax terrorism on others through syntax terrorism and subterfuge.








Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 2:37:58 PM)

I would like to thank you also for your thoughtful input. I am sure you dedicated a lot of time to it.



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 2:41:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheCabal

It's strictly a left thing.



How so?



TheCabal -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 2:58:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


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ORIGINAL: TheCabal

It's strictly a left thing.


How so?



Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room. EVERYONE else thinks the sign "Girls" on the entrance actually means something that really shouldn't be ignored on the say so of a 17 year old who identified as a boy a few months ago.

While I am willing to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that Lila is and should be considered a girl, I am unwilling to accept it simply based on Lila's say-so and the fact that they're demanding use of the girl's locker room.

Furthermore, given a choice of dozens of girls being uncomfortable sharing a locker room with Lila; and Lila feeling left out because they're using a separate facility, the dozens of girls feelings on the matter take precedence over the individual's feelings.



PeonForHer -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 3:12:45 PM)

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When I was stationed in Japan....


Ah. You've been *abroad*. That explains why you have commie views, then. ;-)



PeonForHer -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 3:23:50 PM)

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room. EVERYONE else thinks the sign "Girls" on the entrance actually means something that really shouldn't be ignored on the say so of a 17 year old who identified as a boy a few months ago.


I do think this is an occasion in which the Right should try to control its ideological and doctrinaire outlook and be more in tune with the common-sense real world that the Left generally finds easier to see and deal with pragmatically, TC.

In this situation we're envisaging one person, unsure of her sexuality and very awkwardly in possession of a dick, in a locker-room full of girls. It's that one person who is going to be ill at ease, not the girls around her. In general, I've come across dainty, fragile *individual* females ... but I've never, ever come across a gang of females, of any age, who've felt intimidated by a single person - male, female, or (in their eyes) indeterminate. Girls or women in groups are usually pretty fine, so far as I've seen.



TheCabal -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 3:33:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room. EVERYONE else thinks the sign "Girls" on the entrance actually means something that really shouldn't be ignored on the say so of a 17 year old who identified as a boy a few months ago.


I do think this is an occasion in which the Right should try to control its ideological and doctrinaire outlook and be more in tune with the common-sense real world that the Left generally finds easier to see and deal with pragmatically, TC.


Ah. Way to project there. The pragmatic solution was to have Lila use the separate facility. If you want ideological and doctrinaire it's the left's notion that the transsexual is always right (at least they are until they bump up against another minority that is perceived to be more persecuted) and the solution to her hurt feelings is to bully dozens of girls who really don't want to share a locker room with someone with a penis. And this IS strictly a radical left theory of the world. I mean, you don't honestly believe the vast majority of the country is just tickled pink that there's a boy changing in the girls locker room, do you?

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In this situation we're envisaging one person, unsure of her sexuality and very awkwardly in possession of a dick, in a locker-room full of girls. It's that one person who is going to be ill at ease, not the girls around her. In general, I've come across dainty, fragile *individual* females ... but I've never, ever come across a gang of females, of any age, who've felt intimidated by a single person - male, female, or (in their eyes) indeterminate. Girls or women in groups are usually pretty fine, so far as I've seen.


Obviously she doesn't feel ill at ease in the girl's locker room - or she would have been quite happy to use the separate faculty facility the school set aside just for her. And obviously the other girls in the locker room DO feel ill at ease, or they wouldn't be protesting.



Real0ne -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:05:21 PM)

TC,

these people are known as 'enablers'.

They failed in raising their own kids properly and expect the gubblemint to fix those failures for them, while simultaneously demanding everyone else, those with wisdom, vision, and foresight to accept their failed enabling theories and policies which is one of several root causes of parental failure in the first place.

......cant see the forest because all those damn trees are in the way, the solution of course cut down the forest so they can see the trees.... gasp... still no trees...


And obviously the other girls in the locker room DO feel ill at ease, or they wouldn't be protesting.

OMG dont muddy up their theories with facts.







Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:07:27 PM)

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.



Real0ne -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:09:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.



more extremist trolling and mischaracterization. Oh thats what a strawman argument is! [8|]





Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:09:32 PM)

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They failed in raising their own kids properly


Are you speaking of Lylas parents?



Real0ne -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:10:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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They failed in raising their own kids properly


Are you speaking of Lylas parents?



nope



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:12:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.



more extremist trolling.

when you or anyone else posts nonsense many will ask for validation.



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:13:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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When I was stationed in Japan....


Ah. You've been *abroad*. That explains why you have commie views, then. ;-)


I once had a commanding officer who even Dave Shoup called a red.



Real0ne -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:16:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.



more extremist trolling.

when you or anyone else posts nonsense many will ask for validation.




yep willful premeditated trolling. thanks for agreeing.

for those who have never heard the word trolling before, while gunny asked the question he loaded it up with his own flavor of bullshit which results in a fallacy in argument in the least to mention leading and a host of other fallacies that I wont bore you all with. Suffice to say, trolling.



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:22:38 PM)

If you are unable to supply any validation for your assertion we will just have to accept that.



Thegunnysez -> RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri (9/4/2015 4:23:49 PM)

who then?



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