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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 9:16:31 AM   
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Where is that school, Tweakabelle? I couldn't see it on the webpage.

Sorry I only know what is in the report on the website. I suspect the school is located in the UK rather than the USA

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 9:46:32 AM   
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Where is that school, Tweakabelle? I couldn't see it on the webpage.

Sorry I only know what is in the report on the website. I suspect the school is located in the UK rather than the USA


Looks like the UK, yes, given the Elly Barnes cite. Shame, in a way - for a moment I thought it might be Missouri.


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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 12:05:21 PM   
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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.


That's the opposite of my assertion. The people protesting at that school are obviously a wide cross section of the community.



You feel that those are opposites?

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 3:38:56 PM   
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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.


Do you have some validation that all of the people who protested at the school are republicans and no democrats. It is not in the newspaper article that you have drawn all of this data that you feel support your opinions.


That's the opposite of my assertion. The people protesting at that school are obviously a wide cross section of the community.



You feel that those are opposites?



Yes. You asked if I thought the people who protested at the school are 'republicans and no democrats.' Given the number of people protesting, it seemed to me that it was very likely that the protests weren't partisan at all. It seems rather likely that support for allowing Lila to use the girls locker room is completely partisan though.

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 4:00:42 PM   
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Leaving Kirata's transgenic fixation (or should that be 'fascination'?) aside and rejoining the real world, here's how to handle this issue properly :
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/09/05/pupils-give-a-warm-welcome-back-to-trans-classmate/

It would help if you would read what people actually say instead of making shit up.

A teacher has told how her pupils reacted when one of their classmates transitioned. Charlie came back to school after the summer holidays earlier this week, to a class who had previously known him as a girl

K.


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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 6:50:21 PM   
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You feel that those are opposites?



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Yes. You asked if I thought the people who protested at the school are 'republicans and no democrats.' Given the number of people protesting, it seemed to me that it was very likely that the protests weren't partisan at all. It seems rather likely that support for allowing Lila to use the girls locker room is completely partisan though.

Yet here you say only the left

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 6:59:11 PM   
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You feel that those are opposites?



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Yes. You asked if I thought the people who protested at the school are 'republicans and no democrats.' Given the number of people protesting, it seemed to me that it was very likely that the protests weren't partisan at all. It seems rather likely that support for allowing Lila to use the girls locker room is completely partisan though.

Yet here you say only the left

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Because only the left is unwilling to even question the presence of a biological male in the girl's locker room.




Yes. So far as I can tell, support of Lila's right to use the girl's locker room is coming only from the left.

The protest against that position, by contrast, seems to be very broad based. More specifically, the protest against Lila's presence in the girl's locker room was spontaneous and was composed of a couple hundred students. It appears that the counter-protest had to be mostly bussed in.

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 7:13:50 PM   
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The protest against that position, by contrast, seems to be very broad based. More specifically, the protest against Lila's presence in the girl's locker room was spontaneous and was composed of a couple hundred students.



I do not remember the cite provided saying a couple of hundred students?



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It appears that the counter-protest had to be mostly bussed in.


Where did you find that source? Where in the source you cited does it say that only democrats are supporting this individual? You have offered evidence that some democrats as well as some republicans are against this. But so far you have offered only your opinion as to those who support this individual.

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/6/2015 7:43:27 PM   
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The protest against that position, by contrast, seems to be very broad based. More specifically, the protest against Lila's presence in the girl's locker room was spontaneous and was composed of a couple hundred students.



I do not remember the cite provided saying a couple of hundred students?


Here: (and it's from a nice lefty-favored source too, not some blog or Fox)

Al Jazeera

The first sentence: "About 200 students walked out of class at a Missouri High School..."

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It appears that the counter-protest had to be mostly bussed in.
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Where did you find that source? Where in the source you cited does it say that only democrats are supporting this individual? You have offered evidence that some democrats as well as some republicans are against this. But so far you have offered only your opinion as to those who support this individual.


Information on the counter protest is much harder to find - probably because it seems tiny in comparison. However there is this article:

KVVU

It states "A short distance away, a counter protest was being held by people claiming they have relatives at the high school."

Given that the protest against Lila being allowed to use the girls locker room numbered about 200, and her supporters were closer to 30-40, the broad sentiment is opposed to having her in the girls locker room. As I haven't seen any conservatives supporting the proposition, and only liberals supporting it, it seems reasonable that opposition is broad based, and support for Lila is narrow and limited to liberals.

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RE: Transgender rights in rural Missouri - 9/7/2015 11:02:38 AM   
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As I haven't seen any conservatives supporting the proposition, and only liberals supporting it, it seems reasonable that opposition is broad based, and support for Lila is narrow and limited to liberals.


The cites you provided show a 70/30 split in suport. The cites do not show that her support is limited to liberals as you have claimed.

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