joether
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
I am sorry RealOne I have lost patience with you... I have answered every question you have asked with law and links... it is hard to debate with someone that does not have the ability to understand. Maybe someone else can explain it to you i can't.
Butch
Dear Superintendent Garcia:
In November 2011, the U.S. Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights (OCR), [an administrative agency NOT A COURT] received a complaint against Downey Unified School District (District). The complaint alleged discrimination based on sex against an elementary school student (Student) in the District.
Specifically, the complaint alleged that
(1) the Student was subjected to different treatment and harassment by District employees because of her gender identity and gender nonconformance, and
Nope NOT the problem in your case.
Actually that does seem to be the case. You don't like it, because you don't have an intelligent and well defined argument. It would take me less than five minutes to develop a counter argument; why can't you perform this (what to me is) easy task?
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
(2) the Student was subjected to sexual and gender-based peer harassment and the District failed to provide a prompt and equitable response to notice of the harassment.
Nope not the problem in your case.
See my reply above....
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Continuing:
The Complainant stated that throughout the 2011-2012 school year, staff at the school disciplined the Student because of her gender nonconformance and gender identity.
Nope didnt happen in your case.
There does seem to be reality, and the fantasy your trying to push. The article does explain how the population 'attacked' this one student pretty clearly.
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
In August 2013, as a result of a change in state law, the Complainant obtained an identification document for the Student reflecting the Student’s female name and gender. In August 2014, the District informed OCR that the Board of Education approved Board Policy and Administrative Regulation 252, “Transgender Students, Privacy, and Facilities” to implement California Assembly Bill (AB) 1266 2
Nope not in your case
It's amusing how much you try to say reality and history are not real. Yet have no supporting information to your argument.....
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
this is a battle between 2 competing religions NOT state institution versus student.
No.
This is a battle between a pile of under-educated fuck-wits whom do not understand the standing laws of the land. And a little child whom has the right to an education like anyone else.
When looked at from that perspective, its not hard to identify whom are the bullies and predators. And whom is the innocent in the confrontation.
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
as you can see above (AS I HAVE SAID EARLIER) the kid had no legal standing to claim they are female until it is recognized by the state.
Actually they do.
1 ) They are a US Citizen
2 ) That affords them all the rights and privileges as granted under local, state, and federal laws (including the US Constitution)
3 ) How we define 'male' and 'female' has been undated in recent years; did you not get the memo?
4 ) If a person states they are 'A' and can prove to a reasonable doubt in court of 'A', then 'A' is true under the law
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Once the kid took the proper legal steps the matter was resolved. That is not the case in your OP.
Should the child have to go through all the legal steps just to have an education? Seems a pretty extraordinary level of steps. Right now, there is a gay couple that wants to get married. According to the legal understanding of the land, they can get married. Yet, the county clerk, believes their personal religious rights trump those laws. That's just one person. What happens when its many persons towards this little child?
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
You cant simply blanket anything you feel like under the same umbrella. There are reasons that allowed that situation to be procedurally resolved. The school seemed to be doing what they could to accomodate the kid, however other kids protested against that kid, not institution v kid. Hope that helps.
An here in lies a moment in which educators failed to grasp a concept; and teach it to children. And their parents....
Other kids protested, because, they were told to protest by their parents. If the kids by themselves organized this whole thing; was it really to show 'protest' against the child? Or not do school work? Yeah, the motivations of school children are not always so 'lawful and honest'. I could make the argument they used this kid's plight as an excuse not to do school work.
No, this is a case of adults, hating a small child for being different. Not 'conforming' to their narrow views on reality. Isn't a school a place of learning? A place to teach children not to make the mistakes of generations before them? That we show them examples of hatred (i.e. KKK, Nazis, evil dictators, etc.), in an effort to get them NOT to go down those paths in life?
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