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RE: Another Officer down - 10/20/2015 9:41:12 PM   
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A 33 year old five year veteran, Randolph Holder, was murdered in Harlem today while trying to stop an armed robbery.

According to Police Commissioner Bill Bratton this makes 4 New York City officers murdered in the last 11 months.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/20/2015 10:17:59 PM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/20/2015 11:02:19 PM   
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Until the number of dead cops equals the number of dead african americans killed by cops (even though the vast majority of the shootings were "clean") then there is no cause for concern?

I guess it does not matter that some of the officers were minority officers?

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/21/2015 9:01:50 AM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 10/21/2015 9:19:34 AM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 10/21/2015 4:17:27 PM   
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Is it not possible to grieve for both? Or to look at the system honestly, and analyze the issues, so that both sorts of incidents are minimized?

We have been going after "bad shoots" and all prosecuting them has accomplishied, particularly when they turn out justified, is increasing hatred of cops.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 9:50:59 AM   
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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 9:55:00 AM   
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cops investigating cops and calling it justified, ain't real airtight.

And when the DOJ goes after someone and still clears them.
Different organizations from the one the cop is in routinly do the investigations.
Who do you want to do them, Nation of Islam?

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 9:56:50 AM   
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an anecdote doesn't make the synecdoche.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 10:00:55 AM   
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how many of those times was it justified? how many by DOJ?

an anecdote doesn't make the synecdoche.

Virtually all are justified, who do you think should do the investigations? Someone like you who has allready decided the cop is guilty?

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 10:14:11 AM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.


America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 10:17:20 AM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.


America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery

You think calling for the murder of cops is good?
You do realize that you are saying good for the cop for trying to stop the crime and good for the guy who killed him cause he "saved a child".

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 10:17:32 AM   
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cops investigating cops and calling it justified, ain't real airtight.

And when the DOJ goes after someone and still clears them.
Different organizations from the one the cop is in routinly do the investigations.
Who do you want to do them, Nation of Islam?


well since you asked, sure the NAI, might be as good as the cops investigating themselves and likely better than the DOJ

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 10:23:00 AM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.


America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery

You think calling for the murder of cops is good?


I will let you decide what this means to you: " America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery" To me well it means the following ...America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery..."

it does appear our country is broken doesn't it? I will let you elect me as Supreme Dictator for five year term, I will give the country back in 15... seems a good deal to me, especially since I see myself as a the cure for all xenophobia, that is in my poor ass view the real problem America face's...

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 11:01:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

cops investigating cops and calling it justified, ain't real airtight.

And when the DOJ goes after someone and still clears them.
Different organizations from the one the cop is in routinly do the investigations.
Who do you want to do them, Nation of Islam?


well since you asked, sure the NAI, might be as good as the cops investigating themselves and likely better than the DOJ

If you are going to have Nation of Islam do it why bother with and investigation and trial, just string the cop up.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 11:03:14 AM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.


America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery

You think calling for the murder of cops is good?


I will let you decide what this means to you: " America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery" To me well it means the following ...America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery..."

it does appear our country is broken doesn't it? I will let you elect me as Supreme Dictator for five year term, I will give the country back in 15... seems a good deal to me, especially since I see myself as a the cure for all xenophobia, that is in my poor ass view the real problem America face's...

There wouldn't be anything to give back after 15 years.

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 11:11:22 AM   
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And last night in Garner NC
The words, "Kill a cop, save a child," were found early Friday spray-painted across a partially finished mural at the Garner Police Department.


America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery

You think calling for the murder of cops is good?


I will let you decide what this means to you: " America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery" To me well it means the following ...America is so wonderful and dynamic. Good for whoever wrote the message and good for the cop trying to prevent the robbery..."

it does appear our country is broken doesn't it? I will let you elect me as Supreme Dictator for five year term, I will give the country back in 15... seems a good deal to me, especially since I see myself as a the cure for all xenophobia, that is in my poor ass view the real problem America face's...

There wouldn't be anything to give back after 15 years.



ahh I love your response, but how would you know that? Right see the problem your crystal ball is as cloudy as mine. Umm the difference here is 118 post me and 13,367 post for you. I seem to spend more time in the real world than you do! just my . Your first post back in 2005 was a bit rough (great post however) so glad to see you are so level headed in your 13,367th post

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 11:45:47 AM   
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cops investigating cops and calling it justified, ain't real airtight.

And when the DOJ goes after someone and still clears them.
Different organizations from the one the cop is in routinly do the investigations.
Who do you want to do them, Nation of Islam?


well since you asked, sure the NAI, might be as good as the cops investigating themselves and likely better than the DOJ

If you are going to have Nation of Islam do it why bother with and investigation and trial, just string the cop up.

That seems a bit negative and without merit...NAI is certainly as respectful as Congress and the Senate and they accomplish lots more with less... you watching Congress? Great reply, look forward to many more

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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 11:48:54 AM   
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how many of those times was it justified? how many by DOJ?

an anecdote doesn't make the synecdoche.

Virtually all are justified, who do you think should do the investigations? Someone like you who has allready decided the cop is guilty?


Who do you think should investigate the republican nutsuckers treasonous actions over Benghazi hearings? Republicans?

So, you try to make one the coverage for all. Yeah, no. You dont need to go into anymore numbers your 1 and 1 only does not hold up, under scrutiny.


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RE: Another Officer down - 10/22/2015 12:08:26 PM   
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how many of those times was it justified? how many by DOJ?

an anecdote doesn't make the synecdoche.

Virtually all are justified, who do you think should do the investigations? Someone like you who has allready decided the cop is guilty?


Who do you think should investigate the republican nutsuckers treasonous actions over Benghazi hearings? Republicans?

So, you try to make one the coverage for all. Yeah, no. You dont need to go into anymore numbers your 1 and 1 only does not hold up, under scrutiny.


Totally irrelevant to what I posted.

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