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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 4:34:47 PM   
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peon, you are a moron. And while I can provide you with links


yes yes yes, we are all aware that peon is a moron, but everyone here, not just peon, is waiting for those links that show " leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS.

Let us all see them, prove that your words are true and just Sanity

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 4:35:56 PM   
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The link doesn't go anywhere, Sanity. It just repeats a section of this thread. So, again, can you show me where a "leftist" has supported and approved of ISIS?


And while I can provide you with links and I can explain things to you,

I'm going to guess that you cannot provide them and thus cannot explain them.

If you were to actually try to do so and fail, you would then be compelled to admit that you are a liar.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 4:53:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Question for you peon, do Brits feel any responsibility for how they vote? Blair was hailed as a king but dragged us into war with the yanks, with his "sexed up" dossiers and fake WMD shit. If we hadn't fallen into step quite so keenly with Bush how would the coalition have been formed? Would it have been formed at all? I imagine America would have gone in anyway, but we have some responsibility for what happened in Iraq too.

And our support of American military action continues, which I believe has helped build ISIS numbers and leaves us in the terrorist firing line.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 4:55:37 PM   
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peon, you are a moron. And while I can provide you with links


yes yes yes, we are all aware that peon is a moron, but everyone here, not just peon, is waiting for those links that show " leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS.

Let us all see them, prove that your words are true and just Sanity


Buy you books and send you to school, and you are still morons

(Derp derp derp )

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 4:59:55 PM   
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Given such things as the USA being so powerful and having so much of an impact on the rest of the world, when Americans vote, how much - if at all - is there a sense that they're voting not just for the USA's best interests, but for the world's? What are your feelings and perceptions?


Responsibility.. none whatsoever since what appears on the ballot are the hand picked figureheads for power brokers that have nothing to do with the lives of the citizens.
I doubt most people have voted "for" a candidate in decades. You vote for the least obnoxious of the simpering "bought men".

....but power brokers that have the US (military/navy) to their bidding and often at US citizens and the world's expense and without regard to the consequences otherwise. That's why Obama has been Bush light to an extent and why Clinton was their whore.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:01:48 PM   
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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:05:56 PM   
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peon, you are a moron. And while I can provide you with links


yes yes yes, we are all aware that peon is a moron, but everyone here, not just peon, is waiting for those links that show " leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS.

Let us all see them, prove that your words are true and just Sanity


Buy you books and send you to school, and you are still morons

(Derp derp derp )

no, you did that a couple of hours ago, it didn't work then and it isn't working now. Linking back to more of your lunatic ranting isn't showing anyone where "leftists" support and approve of ISIS.

Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is the definition of....I'll let you think about that one

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:12:12 PM   
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peon, you are a moron. And while I can provide you with links


yes yes yes, we are all aware that peon is a moron, but everyone here, not just peon, is waiting for those links that show " leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS.

Let us all see them, prove that your words are true and just Sanity


Buy you books and send you to school, and you are still morons

(Derp derp derp )

no, you did that a couple of hours ago, it didn't work then and it isn't working now. Linking back to more of your lunatic ranting isn't showing anyone where "leftists" support and approve of ISIS.

Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is the definition of....I'll let you think about that one


Your failure to understand the point of linking back to that post, doesnt make the point pointless

Just means you are too stoopid to get the point

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:18:20 PM   
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Of the people I actually know, am related to, or talk to often; not one of them thinks the U.S. should be playing Sheriff with a posse all over the world. Outside of the beltway; the only people I've even heard of liking U.S. foreign policy are the oil companies that get to pump middle eastern oil while our troops keep them safe.


Its amazing to me how many bought into the propaganda which suggested that American soldiers were sneaking Iraqi oil out in their canteens

I write this, because American companies didnt get any Iraqi oil field contracts to speak of.

That Iraq was about Texas oilmen is pure, unfounded propaganda

Initially, we had to be as involved in Middle eastern affairs as we were due to the Soviets' encroachments there. Many dont understand this, but the Cold War was for real, and the Middle East was the prime battle ground

Which explains why leftists (Soviet Union loving bitches that they are) always have their panties in a wad over our efforts there, and work overtime to mischaracterize / propagandize what happened there

Now we are fighting Islamists, the new darling of insane leftist freaks

Dig deeper and discover the truth if you want to be free


As usual you have it only partially correct and backwards. The Cold War as ALL wars, were manufactured as an excuse for US hegemony and as reflected most prolifically by jumping in bed with tyrants all on the premise that they were so-called 'anti-communists.' They of course didn't give a shit one way or the other, they just wanted our money. Hence the expression...check-book diplomacy.

One was the deliberate ousting of a democ. elected pres. of Iran and installing the Shah, about the biggest butcher in ME history, until paying Saddam to be the capitalist stooge with our help to take over Iraq.

US enemies just like the 'terrorists' and 'terrorism' is now.....is history's, (the Russian Bear) continuing excuse and rallying cry for all manner of misdeeds. That's the truth once dug out, that will set one free.

Now it's terrorism and [the] terrorist that will be the gift for US adventurism...that keeps on giving now and likely forever. One example is that the defense budget as doubled since 2001 while more Americans die from hand guns in one way or another since Vietnam...than all deaths of any war combined. (92/day)

Another is the drone war that takes out innocents, the victims of which call US terrorism that our military euphemistically calls...collateral damage.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:19:33 PM   
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peon, you are a moron. And while I can provide you with links


yes yes yes, we are all aware that peon is a moron, but everyone here, not just peon, is waiting for those links that show " leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS.

Let us all see them, prove that your words are true and just Sanity


Buy you books and send you to school, and you are still morons

(Derp derp derp )

no, you did that a couple of hours ago, it didn't work then and it isn't working now. Linking back to more of your lunatic ranting isn't showing anyone where "leftists" support and approve of ISIS.

Doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result is the definition of....I'll let you think about that one


Your failure to understand the point of linking back to that post, doesnt make the point pointless

Just means you are too stoopid to get the point


stop linking back to two separate threads with hundreds of replies, and just copy the comment or comments that show "leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:21:10 PM   
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Blacks however voted 96 percent for Obama... how else would this be explained except voting by race?

Butch


I think its not unfair to say that some? many? blacks voted for Obama because of skin color, but I think its probably accurate to say those same people wont be voting for ben carson. so the mitigating/confounding factor there is that most blacks vote democrat.

Obama lost the white vote by 12%. Gee, I wonder why ?

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:22:00 PM   
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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:25:48 PM   
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... Take your time. It's a Saturday night and I'm not busy.

With that torso? Man, that's disappointing.

Hey, I got 6-pack abs...you just can't quite see them.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:26:31 PM   
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C'mon, people:



never a mod around when you need one...

I apologise.

unless you mean I'm a troll in which case fuck you " smiley face"

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:29:32 PM   
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Just means you are too stoopid to get the point

No, it just means your assertion is a lie.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:29:33 PM   
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unless you mean I'm a troll

Nope, that's not what I meant.


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in which case fuck you " smiley face"

Not tonight; I have a headache. But I think peon's free.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 5:41:20 PM   
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Question for you peon, do Brits feel any responsibility for how they vote? Blair was hailed as a king but dragged us into war with the yanks, with his "sexed up" dossiers and fake WMD shit. If we hadn't fallen into step quite so keenly with Bush how would the coalition have been formed? Would it have been formed at all? I imagine America would have gone in anyway, but we have some responsibility for what happened in Iraq too.

And our support of American military action continues, which I believe has helped build ISIS numbers and leaves us in the terrorist firing line.


No, I don't think Brits generally do feel responsibility for the way they vote and the way that this might impact foreign policy, DTP. Of course I feel they should do. On the other hand, with Blair especially, few could see that coming - that he would turn out to be such a premier-league Bush arselicker. He makes no apology for that now; still less so back at the time. Yes, a lot of us here are pretty damned disgusted about him.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/5/2015 6:21:24 PM   
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stop linking back to two separate threads with hundreds of replies, and just copy the comment or comments that show "leftists" supporting and approving of ISIS


Ding ding ding, we have a "winner"!!!

/sarcasm

If you stop acting like a dim witted little troll and READ those threads, you will find what you and your other little troll friend have been demanding

Leftist trash having panic attacks, aborting late term cattle fetuses, jumping my case (however you want to say it) because I (gasp!) dared to post about ISIS atrocities

In other words going to bat for their ISIS friends

That you arent bright enough, or you are too lazy to properly digest the material presented, is on you and your drooling little associates, rather than myself

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/6/2015 11:13:26 AM   
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It's funny: In a land where politicians love to hug the Bible, it's interesting to see what verses don't get much airtime.
"From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from the one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded." (Luke 12:48b)
"This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy." (Ezekiel 16:49)
"Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world." (James 1:27)
Not to mention the sorting of the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46) and the parable of the vineyard workers (Matthew 20:1-16).


Implying that paying more to government because of more prosperity is Biblical, would seem to also imply that government is God. I'm not sure how many politicians have the cohones to make that argument.

The rich do pay more taxes than the poor, but a lower % of income. Too bad the Bible didn't mention which was to be the criterion.

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RE: Do Americans feel extra responsibility? - 9/6/2015 11:41:32 AM   
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Implying that paying more to government because of more prosperity is Biblical, would seem to also imply that government is God.

Whatever you say.


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The rich do pay more taxes than the poor, but a lower % of income. Too bad the Bible didn't mention which was to be the criterion.

Well, there is the story of the widow's mite. And the "progressive taxation" prescribed in Leviticus 12.

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