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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 4:40:50 PM   
TheCabal


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No im saying that what comes out of his mouth is racist, ignorant, arrogant, lie filled, bigoted and ugly bullshit.
Im not surprised by the people that flock to him..they are of the same ilk
He is the worst that america has to offer. I thought palin was bad...
but oh Im loving the show...


Yes. There's quite a lot of bullshit coming from him. He is more narcissistic and has an ego even larger than Obama's which is, frankly, shocking. He's also a gun grabber, an abuser of eminent domain, and a long time supporter of Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer. His knowledge of international terrorism is less than elementary, and every time he uses the term 'classy' it drips with an unintended irony that could only come from such a cartoonishly vulgar person.

There are PLENTY of perfectly valid reasons to oppose Trump and assert that he's not qualified to be the President of the US without having to lay down a phony race card. But then, that's all the Democratic party knows. So it's what they do.

Where's the racism in what he says? He speaks against ILLEGAL immigration. All that is, is an acknowledgement that a National Government has an obligation to secure it's borders. There's not a thing racist about that. Every other country on the planet does it.

The man operates commercial properties all over the world - that's a pretty good sign that he doesn't think in terms of race in any way. And he clearly supports LEGAL immigration - he's married to one! His entire stance is focused on the simple fact that a nation - any nation - has a right and obligation to establish a border and regulate who comes across it.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 4:46:20 PM   
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Trump respects the constitution just as much as any other candidate from either party.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 4:49:25 PM   
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sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 4:58:56 PM   
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FR to the OP.

Trump respects the constitution just as much as any other candidate from either party.

Oh shit, now you've done it... crapped on joether's Democrat nightie. He won't take that lightly.

K.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:00:47 PM   
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FR to the OP.

Trump respects the constitution just as much as any other candidate from either party.

Oh shit, now you've done it... crapped on joether's Democrat nightie. He won't take that lightly.

K.


It's one of my many talents.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:01:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:10:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No im saying that what comes out of his mouth is racist, ignorant, arrogant, lie filled, bigoted and ugly bullshit.
Im not surprised by the people that flock to him..they are of the same ilk

Unless you want to be labelled a bigot yourself, I think you need to support that claim with some examples of what you consider to be "racist" and "bigoted," because you're smearing a large percentage of the U.S. population, including significant numbers of black and Hispanic voters in the bargain.

K.



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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:22:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

The same could be said for the rampant R side.
Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.


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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:26:51 PM   
TheCabal


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheCabal


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

The same could be said for the rampant R side.
Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.



I don't think I've seen Republicans tossing around the term "racist" willy-nilly. I mean, they've effed up plenty of things, but they do go a bit beyond simple name calling.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 5:26:53 PM   
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Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.

QFT

K.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:04:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Time the false credit Trump gets for business success is punctured. The many in depth analyses show his main skill is using government and other people's money to profit, Not risking his own. 4 major bankruptcies, and he's flush while tax payers and small investors lost betting on him. Perfect profile the Right Wing claims fits Dems?? Not even keeping up with the Fortune 500 and far behind the real financial success stories of recent years: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8
I see the motivated illegal immigrants as beginning entrepreneurs, as concerned with legality as any Wall Street operator, "Don't Get Caught" the operative principle. That the current economic distress in Mexico and Latin America is as much due to the failed War On Drugs, America's insatiable drug hunger and the exploitative globalization typified by NAFTA and it's distortion of all the America's economies in favor of large corporations, that is much the responsibility of the US, is totally ignored. How someone eager to use Eminent Domain for private profit gets supported by erstwhile supporters of property rights and freedom from government overreach is bizarre. Nobody Reads? and accepts whatever Fox News presents as Truth??

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:16:57 PM   
TheCabal


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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

Time the false credit Trump gets for business success is punctured. The many in depth analyses show his main skill is using government and other people's money to profit, Not risking his own. 4 major bankruptcies, and he's flush while tax payers and small investors lost betting on him. Perfect profile the Right Wing claims fits Dems?? Not even keeping up with the Fortune 500 and far behind the real financial success stories of recent years: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8
I see the motivated illegal immigrants as beginning entrepreneurs, as concerned with legality as any Wall Street operator, "Don't Get Caught" the operative principle. That the current economic distress in Mexico and Latin America is as much due to the failed War On Drugs, America's insatiable drug hunger and the exploitative globalization typified by NAFTA and it's distortion of all the America's economies in favor of large corporations, that is much the responsibility of the US, is totally ignored. How someone eager to use Eminent Domain for private profit gets supported by erstwhile supporters of property rights and freedom from government overreach is bizarre. Nobody Reads? and accepts whatever Fox News presents as Truth??


It's not Fox News. Trump doesn't get along well with them either. Does Megyn Kelly ring a bell? Honestly, I can't think of a news outlet he DOES get along with. Conservative or liberal. Which is actually part of his appeal. Jorge Ramos' stunt only boosted Trump's credibility.

Trump is having success because he's bold and brash. Not because he's conservative, smart or even successful. The country is disgusted by the politico-media complex and Trump is a large, red-headed middle finger pointed at the cesspool on the Potomac (and the media). Unfortunately, that's all he is. There's no other substance to his campaign. Honestly, it's basically Obama's campaign only with a different set of people pissed off at him.

My hope is that someone with a clue develops Trump's backbone and he fades back into his reality-tv world.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:21:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

The same could be said for the rampant R side.
Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.



I don't think I've seen Republicans tossing around the term "racist" willy-nilly. I mean, they've effed up plenty of things, but they do go a bit beyond simple name calling.

Ever listen to Rush, Beck and Sanity?

They toss around other terms willy nilly (leftist) and that's what has alienated a lot of centrist folks from what's left of the GOP. Hell, they would probably kick Reagan out if he were still alive.

That's why they will lose again and that's why they are culpable in the downfall of this nation.
they sold their soul to the Bible beaters and lost their basic core principals.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:23:44 PM   
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oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

and you are a liar

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:25:22 PM   
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No im saying that what comes out of his mouth is racist, ignorant, arrogant, lie filled, bigoted and ugly bullshit.
Im not surprised by the people that flock to him..they are of the same ilk

Unless you want to be labelled a bigot yourself, I think you need to support that claim with some examples of what you consider to be "racist" and "bigoted," because you're smearing a large percentage of the U.S. population, including significant numbers of black and Hispanic voters in the bargain.

K.



no...I dont need to support anything. sorry.


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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:25:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: TheCabal


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

The same could be said for the rampant R side.
Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.



I don't think I've seen Republicans tossing around the term "racist" willy-nilly. I mean, they've effed up plenty of things, but they do go a bit beyond simple name calling.

Ever listen to Rush, Beck and Sanity?

They toss around other terms willy nilly (leftist) and that's what has alienated a lot of centrist folks from what's left of the GOP. Hell, they would probably kick Reagan out if he were still alive.

That's why they will lose again and that's why they are culpable in the downfall of this nation.
they sold their soul to the Bible beaters and lost their basic core principals.


You want to equate "leftist" with "racist"? Heck, Bernie Sanders calls HIMSELF a socialist.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:25:39 PM   
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I don't see how your post is in any way a reply to my request for examples of Trump's alleged "racism" and "bigotry". But taking it as it is, I have a certain respect for a man who honestly admits that he's made a fortune playing by rules that suck, and free trade agreements (like NAFTA) are a particular object of his ire for gutting our manufacturing sector and destroying so many jobs.

K.

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:26:23 PM   
Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

oh that told ME didnt it.
sorry...LMAO ahem... I couldnt expect anything less:)
thank you.


No, seriously. We all know the Democrats point and scream "RACIST!" at everyone who's not a Democrat. That's why no one really takes it seriously anymore.

The same could be said for the rampant R side.
Extremists on both sides is a large part of what has brought this country down.


Aint that the truth


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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:28:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

Time the false credit Trump gets for business success is punctured. The many in depth analyses show his main skill is using government and other people's money to profit, Not risking his own. 4 major bankruptcies, and he's flush while tax payers and small investors lost betting on him. Perfect profile the Right Wing claims fits Dems?? Not even keeping up with the Fortune 500 and far behind the real financial success stories of recent years: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8
I see the motivated illegal immigrants as beginning entrepreneurs, as concerned with legality as any Wall Street operator, "Don't Get Caught" the operative principle. That the current economic distress in Mexico and Latin America is as much due to the failed War On Drugs, America's insatiable drug hunger and the exploitative globalization typified by NAFTA and it's distortion of all the America's economies in favor of large corporations, that is much the responsibility of the US, is totally ignored. How someone eager to use Eminent Domain for private profit gets supported by erstwhile supporters of property rights and freedom from government overreach is bizarre. Nobody Reads? and accepts whatever Fox News presents as Truth??


It's not Fox News. Trump doesn't get along well with them either. Does Megyn Kelly ring a bell? Honestly, I can't think of a news outlet he DOES get along with. Conservative or liberal. Which is actually part of his appeal. Jorge Ramos' stunt only boosted Trump's credibility.

Trump is having success because he's bold and brash. Not because he's conservative, smart or even successful. The country is disgusted by the politico-media complex and Trump is a large, red-headed middle finger pointed at the cesspool on the Potomac (and the media). Unfortunately, that's all he is. There's no other substance to his campaign. Honestly, it's basically Obama's campaign only with a different set of people pissed off at him.

My hope is that someone with a clue develops Trump's backbone and he fades back into his reality-tv world.


A big part of Trumps appeal is that he will shove Obamas open borders madness up Obamas and the Democrats and the Republicans collective ass

If he just does that he is miles ahead of every other candidate when it comes to doing the job that the general population wants done. Every other pol has lied to us about curbing deficits or changing the tone in Washington, blah blah blah forever

Both parties

Trump is an outsider who has potential to shake things up. Not more of the same. Rattle some cages, spark some meaningful conversations. SHOW SOME FUCKING SPINE, even if you arent always right.

Thats his appeal

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RE: How much Trump Respects the US Constititution - 9/6/2015 6:28:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No im saying that what comes out of his mouth is racist, ignorant, arrogant, lie filled, bigoted and ugly bullshit.
Im not surprised by the people that flock to him..they are of the same ilk

Unless you want to be labelled a bigot yourself, I think you need to support that claim with some examples of what you consider to be "racist" and "bigoted," because you're smearing a large percentage of the U.S. population, including significant numbers of black and Hispanic voters in the bargain.

no...I dont need to support anything. sorry.

No need to apologize. I wasn't expecting anything.

K.

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