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Anyone seeking or holding office in order to force their religious views on the public is dangerous.

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Or was it just the opposite; the founding fathers considered a government organization so untrustworthy that an armed populace is needed to keep it in check. Is it that a citizen militia is essential to prevent tyranny in a central government that all citizens are guaranteed the right to keep and bear arms? (And at one time; required to.)

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I think the best answer anyone gave to this was, why should I defend Obama, when was the last time he defended me.

My thought was why does Trump have to defend him. The person asking the question has the right of free speech and has the right to his opinion (even though I believe his opinion is incorrect). So, a Presidential candidate is supposed to say to someone, "No, you can't/shouldn't say that"?

Ignored in this is that Trumps response was This is a question???? I come here and this is the first question??? Doesn't give a lot of support for the position, does it.

It actually doesn't change my position at all. I'm not defending Trump. I'm questioning why any candidate is expected tell anyone in an open forum what they can and can't say.

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Ignored in this is that Trumps response was This is a question???? I come here and this is the first question??? Doesn't give a lot of support for the position, does it.

If this was true.
The media is screwed up big time. They have no journalistic integrity at all by misrepresenting.

Hell That would be considered as a defense. Even though he doesn't even have to acknowledge anything.

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Ignored in this is that Trumps response was This is a question???? I come here and this is the first question??? Doesn't give a lot of support for the position, does it.

If this was true.
The media is screwed up big time. They have no journalistic integrity at all by misrepresenting.

Hell That would be considered as a defense. Even though he doesn't even have to acknowledge anything.

That's not entirely true. Yes Trump said that, but that's not all he said. Here's the actual video. Check out the 13 second mark.
https://www.facebook.com/HuffingtonPost/videos/10153373623171130/


Audience member: We have a problem in this country. Its called Muslims. You know our current president is one.

Trump. Right

Audience member: You know he's not even an American.

Trump: We need this question. This is the first question.

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Where do you get this we? You claim to be from singapore. If that is true then you are definitely not one of we.

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Where do you get this we? You claim to be from singapore. If that is true then you are definitely not one of we.

Sometimes, you pick at the stupidest thing. Singapore has a President too! So it's relevant to me. And his elected through pure popular vote. So if I had a Muslim running for President, I sure hell ain't gonna be voting for him, unless I am 100% sure he is super duper moderate or Muslim in Name only.

I say all this and my MP is Muslim, and I did vote for him. I met him, chat with him, and like his responses to me, and I was satisfied that his not a Muslim by choice. So I voted for him. Our MPs here have to knock on every door in the district they take care of and personally speak to each and every resident and address their concerns.

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That is cool, it is the way pure democracy has to work. Give all the voters a chance to ask the questions that are important to them, not the questions the media wants to be important to them. Of course if we tried to do that we would have 20 year olds going door to door campaigning for the 2036 race because it would take that long. And they would never get to places like Nebraska, not a dense enough population. Even if just our congressmen did that they would have to talk to a couple hundred thousand people.

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Where do you get this we? You claim to be from singapore. If that is true then you are definitely not one of we.

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Where do you get this we? You claim to be from singapore. If that is true then you are definitely not one of we.

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That is cool, it is the way pure democracy has to work. Give all the voters a chance to ask the questions that are important to them, not the questions the media wants to be important to them. Of course if we tried to do that we would have 20 year olds going door to door campaigning for the 2036 race because it would take that long. And they would never get to places like Nebraska, not a dense enough population. Even if just our congressmen did that they would have to talk to a couple hundred thousand people.

I think we are more like the Brit system. I think our MP is the equivalent of a governor or a Mayor maybe, except MPs managed tinier areas, they are incharge of infrastructure of the area too, cleanliness, upkeep, safety etc. Where there are weekly "meet the people sessions", where people can go meet him and speak to him about their problems so he can help them or make sure they get the help they need. It's the only way to reach out to those that fallen through the gaps. And they represent us in parliament. And we vote for our MPs by popular vote, but whichever party got majority of their MPs voted into parliament, that means that party gets to choose their Prime Minister. For our Prime Minister, it's not popular vote. But the President, who's main role is to manage the taxpayers money going to the government and approve any spending of it, that one we can go by popular vote.

I don't really know what Senators in the US does but Governors does seem in charge of a way too big area to really be personal with people. But I guess then, there are Mayors too who could get more personal.

We do only have 5million people to manage though, while US have 300million.

BTW, some of our MPs are 20 yr olds. And they are doing a terrific job!Good to get young people involve, there are 20+ yr olds that really want to help and make a difference. And we pay our MPs really well too. Our MPs are paid 120k per annum. Our President salary is 3Mil per annum. I am actually surprise US President is quite lowly paid, so Trump will be taking a big pay cut.

1. they are Singapore citizens;
   
2. they are 21 years of age or above on the day of nomination for election;
   
3. their names appear in a current register of electors;
   
4. they are resident in Singapore at the date of nomination and have been so resident for an aggregate period of not less than ten years before that date;
   
5. they are able, with a degree of proficiency sufficient to enable them to take an active part in Parliamentary proceedings, to speak and, unless incapacitated by blindness or some other physical cause, to read and write at least one of the following languages: English, Malay, Mandarin and Tamil; and
   
6. they are not otherwise disqualified from being MPs under Article 45 of the Constitution.

1. they are and have been found or declared to be of unsound mind;
   
2. they are undischarged bankrupts;
   
3. they hold offices of profit;
   
4. having been nominated for election to Parliament or the office of President or having acted as election agent to a person so nominated, they have failed to lodge any return of election expenses required by law within the time and in the manner required;
   
5. they have been convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than S$2,000 and have not received a free pardon;[72]
   
6. they have voluntarily acquired the citizenship of, or exercised rights of citizenship in, a foreign country or has made a declaration of allegiance to a foreign country;[73] or
   
7. they are disqualified under any law relating to offences in connection with elections to Parliament or the office of President by reason of having been convicted of such an offence or having in proceedings relating to such an election been proved guilty of an act constituting such an offence.

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Ignored in this is that Trumps response was This is a question???? I come here and this is the first question??? Doesn't give a lot of support for the position, does it.

If this was true.
The media is screwed up big time. They have no journalistic integrity at all by misrepresenting.

Hell That would be considered as a defense. Even though he doesn't even have to acknowledge anything.

That's not entirely true. Yes Trump said that, but that's not all he said. Here's the actual video. Check out the 13 second mark.
https://www.facebook.com/HuffingtonPost/videos/10153373623171130/


Audience member: We have a problem in this country. Its called Muslims. You know our current president is one.

Trump. Right

Audience member: You know he's not even an American.

Trump: We need this question. This is the first question.

Was it
We need this question!
or
We need this question?
In watching this he seemed dismissive.
And as I said he is not my choice.

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Dumbass the president of your country is a christian.

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BTW, some of our MPs are 20 yr olds.

The law in singapore says they have to be 21.


Persons are qualified to be elected or appointed as Members of Parliament if:[70]

1. they are Singapore citizens;
   
2. they are 21 years of age or above on the day of nomination for election;
   
3. their names appear in a current register of electors;
   
4. they are resident in Singapore at the date of nomination and have been so resident for an aggregate period of not less than ten years before that date;
   
5. they are able, with a degree of proficiency sufficient to enable them to take an active part in Parliamentary proceedings, to speak and, unless incapacitated by blindness or some other physical cause, to read and write at least one of the following languages: English, Malay, Mandarin and Tamil; and
   
6. they are not otherwise disqualified from being MPs under Article 45 of the Constitution.

Article 45 provides that persons are not qualified to be MPs if:[71]

1. they are and have been found or declared to be of unsound mind;
   
2. they are undischarged bankrupts;
   
3. they hold offices of profit;
   
4. having been nominated for election to Parliament or the office of President or having acted as election agent to a person so nominated, they have failed to lodge any return of election expenses required by law within the time and in the manner required;
   
5. they have been convicted of an offence by a court of law in Singapore or Malaysia and sentenced to imprisonment for a term of not less than one year or to a fine of not less than S$2,000 and have not received a free pardon;[72]
   
6. they have voluntarily acquired the citizenship of, or exercised rights of citizenship in, a foreign country or has made a declaration of allegiance to a foreign country;[73] or
   
7. they are disqualified under any law relating to offences in connection with elections to Parliament or the office of President by reason of having been convicted of such an offence or having in proceedings relating to such an election been proved guilty of an act constituting such an offence.

A person's disqualification for having failed to properly lodge a return of election expenses or having been convicted of an offence[74] may be removed by the President. If the President has not done so, the disqualification ceases at the end of five years from the date when the return was required to be lodged or, as the case may be, the date when the person convicted was released from custody or the date when the fine was imposed. In addition, a person is not disqualified for acquiring or exercising rights of foreign citizenship or declared allegiance to a foreign country if he or she did so before becoming a Singapore citizen.[75]