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Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 9:49:48 AM

MuscleBoundDom

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I'm thinking of adopting corporeal punishment, using my hands, in training my slaves. I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving. I do use flogging, whips, etc. But I've never used force with my hands. I was chatting with a fellow colleague (Dom) and he said that the fastest way to train a slave was the use of his hands when disciplining.

I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 9:59:02 AM

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I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

Do not engage in facial slapping or punching until you've taken a class on how to do it safely.

Facial slapping is incredibly risky and can cause a variety of injuries ranging from a broken nose, to damaged eardrums (and permanent hearing loss), to dislocated jaws, TMJ symptoms, spine and vertebra damage, spinal nerve damage, optical nerve damage, whiplash injuries, broken eye-sockets, dislodged corneas, tooth damage, and sever damage to the tongue and palate, all with relatively little force.

The ONLY safeish way to engage in facial slapping is when you make sure that you brace the subject's head by holding subject's head firmly in your other hand, so that you can brace the impact, and steady her neck and head as so to minimize the unintended impact on her head and jaw.

Even then, it is still highly risky.

Do NOT engage in this type of play until you've trained with people who know what they're doing (boxing and martial arts experts will do if you can't find a kink class on the subject in your area, and are highly recommended even IF you've already taken a kink class on the subject), have taken a first aid course, have talked to a health care provider about the risks, and had this performed repeatedly on yourself at the same level you're intending to do with her.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 10:03:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
I was chatting with a fellow colleague (Dom) and he said that the fastest way to train a slave was the use of his hands when disciplining.

Have you ever asked him how long his longest BDSM relationship has lasted?

quote:

I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?

We don't have a punishment dynamic. I'm an adult. Telling me what I've done wrong and helping me work towards a solution is far more productive. And honestly, I want him to be happy, so dealing with his disappointment is far worse than anything he could do to me physically.

Your submissive shouldn't need to be bullied to serve you, she should want to serve you and you should be setting her up to succeed, not fail.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 10:26:09 AM

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Face slapping can be fun BUT it's incredibly easy to get it wrong, get carried away and over do it. Then you will have a furious, upset sub on your hands who thinks you're an absolute twat and doesn't want to play with you anymore. Best advice, take it VERY SLOWLY. Go far too gentle, rather than too hard. Use very sparingly and warn her first. You don't need to put any force behind it, she will feel shocked, scared and hurt even from a little tap. I had a Dom who tried to use it to settle arguments. Middle of a heated discussion he'd say he was going to slap me and I'd feel helpless and miserable and enraged. Within a week it had developed into a hard limit for me and that is the only time in my life that a limit has strengthened rather than decreased for me. So do it, but be very careful you do it right.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 10:48:00 AM

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If anyone slapped me in the face, I would slap them back harder. Ask my ex.

I must be a terrible submissive, since I learn and obey when inspired by a worthy man, not by being hit.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:12:34 AM

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quote:

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We don't have a punishment dynamic. I'm an adult. Telling me what I've done wrong and helping me work towards a solution is far more productive. And honestly, I want him to be happy, so dealing with his disappointment is far worse than anything he could do to me physically.

Your submissive shouldn't need to be bullied to serve you, she should want to serve you and you should be setting her up to succeed, not fail.

It's not about being bullied. Believe me, the corporal punishment is for the benefit of the submissive. I've tried talking with them to eat healthy and exercise but they don't listen. I try yelling, flogging, light pushing, etc., but to no avail. I believe by being more physical they will listen better. As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

This is all for the benefit of the submissive.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:19:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

It's not about being bullied. Believe me, the corporal punishment is for the benefit of the submissive. I've tried talking with them to eat healthy and exercise but they don't listen. I try yelling, flogging, light pushing, etc., but to no avail. I believe by being more physical they will listen better. As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

This is all for the benefit of the submissive.

Epic troll is epic.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:26:27 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I'm thinking of adopting corporeal punishment, using my hands, in training my slaves. I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving. I do use flogging, whips, etc. But I've never used force with my hands. I was chatting with a fellow colleague (Dom) and he said that the fastest way to train a slave was the use of his hands when disciplining.

I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?

Do real live women put up with this shit from you? Have you ever been with a woman in real life?

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:27:54 AM

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Have they consented to being abused?

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:29:52 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

We don't have a punishment dynamic. I'm an adult. Telling me what I've done wrong and helping me work towards a solution is far more productive. And honestly, I want him to be happy, so dealing with his disappointment is far worse than anything he could do to me physically.

Your submissive shouldn't need to be bullied to serve you, she should want to serve you and you should be setting her up to succeed, not fail.

It's not about being bullied. Believe me, the corporal punishment is for the benefit of the submissive. I've tried talking with them to eat healthy and exercise but they don't listen. I try yelling, flogging, light pushing, etc., but to no avail. I believe by being more physical they will listen better. As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

This is all for the benefit of the submissive.

And there he goes again with his bullshit about how no subs appreciate his preaching at them.

But now, the dipshit has added violence to his repertoire by threatening women with a fist, not just a slap.

So not only did you start a hypocritical thread asking about slapping, but you couldn't stay away from reiterating your fruitless agenda of giving non consensual health advice to subs.

I'll say this. You've learned nothing from the last time you were flamed.

It's gotta be the steroids.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:35:43 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Spiritedsub2

quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I'm thinking of adopting corporeal punishment, using my hands, in training my slaves. I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving. I do use flogging, whips, etc. But I've never used force with my hands. I was chatting with a fellow colleague (Dom) and he said that the fastest way to train a slave was the use of his hands when disciplining.

I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?

Do real live women put up with this shit from you? Have you ever been with a woman in real life?

Apparently, since he spends an inordinate amount of time chatting up fat chicks to verbally abuse, I would think he gets rejected a lot. He doesn't seem to comprehend going after women that are his type.

But, obviously his fetish is becoming Pygmalion to fat women, so he can't help himself.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 11:37:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I believe by being more physical they will listen better.

Doubtful. What is more likely to happen is that they will grow to fear you and resent you.

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As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

1) If he told me to drink the bottled water, I would drink the bottled water.

2) If he felt that it required a closed fist, he'd quickly find himself single.

Again, if you have to threaten and punch your submissive to get them to follow your lead, then you're not really dominating them. You're bullying them.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 12:26:16 PM

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As a submissive, I'm sure if you had a can of soda and a bottle of water in front of you, and someone with a closed fist is telling you to choose wisely OR ELSE, you will drink the bottled water.

As a submissive, if somebody would put a can of soda in front of me and a bottle of water and force me to choose by threat of a closed fist. I'd happily drink the soda to provoke him to beat me.
And if I deemed he didn't do it hard enough, I'd drink it again, until I was satisfied there would be enough evidence available.

Then... I'd pick up the phone, call the cops, and press charges against the asshole, and do everything I can to ensure he'd get the max allowable sentence for such an event.

And I don't even drink soda... but it'd be worth the sugar high to get the abuser put in jail.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 12:46:24 PM

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If my Master wanted me to eat healthy and exercise then I would do it. But I would do it because he has proven himself to be a man worth following.

If he had to threaten physical violence to get me to do his bidding I would know he wasn't worth following and was a pretty poor excuse for a man too.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 12:54:40 PM

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Then... I'd pick up the phone, call the cops, and press charges against the asshole, and do everything I can to ensure he'd get the max allowable sentence for such an event.

And I don't even drink soda... but it'd be worth the sugar high to get the abuser put in jail.

I have to wonder a bit if this OP is aware that posts made on the forums can be used in the event of a criminal proceeding.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 1:08:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Then... I'd pick up the phone, call the cops, and press charges against the asshole, and do everything I can to ensure he'd get the max allowable sentence for such an event.

And I don't even drink soda... but it'd be worth the sugar high to get the abuser put in jail.

I have to wonder a bit if this OP is aware that posts made on the forums can be used in the event of a criminal proceeding.

Shhhhhhhht! Don't tell him!

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 1:11:36 PM

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not falling for the wind up...
cant handle a woman without beating her.. oh yea reeeks of dumbliness and asshole

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 1:23:49 PM

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Anyone who screamed and pushed and shoved me would not get a chance to slap or punch me.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 1:35:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

I'm thinking of adopting corporeal punishment, using my hands, in training my slaves. I'm a natural at yelling, screaming, ordering, slight pushing and shoving. I do use flogging, whips, etc. But I've never used force with my hands. I was chatting with a fellow colleague (Dom) and he said that the fastest way to train a slave was the use of his hands when disciplining.

I'm somewhat afraid that I might knock out a tooth, etc., Lol.... but if the woman agrees to it...

I was wondering if any other Doms or Dommes use corporal punishment with their hands? What has your experience been? Do the submissives learn and obey faster?

I have a Master.
He does not yell, scream or push and shove.
If what you mean by ordering is He will ask me to do something and generally I will do it, then I suppose I will concede to being ordered.

If someone doesn't want to obey you then hitting them with a closed fist is not likely to incentivise them. And although it has been mentioned, unless they have readily consented to that, it is abusive.

To be obedient one has to have willingness.
Choosing partners that you are compatible with in terms of aesthetics seems a much better idea than trying to force someone bend to your will.

From what I have read, I do not think it is really about your benevolent concern about their health. Your stated opinions demonstrate your actual knowledge is much too simplistic for me to accept that.
You prefer very thin women. and you shouldn't try to bully someone into your ideal.

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RE: Corporal Punishment Via Hands - 10/7/2015 2:25:37 PM

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Do real live women put up with this shit from you?

Considering that the dude is seeking, I find it highly unlikely.

OP, I'll be the first person to tell you that I've used corporal punishment. Not over stuff like a person drinking a soda. I've done it over things like disobedience in more substantial situations. One punishment was to the length that I broke a paddle while administering it because the offense was disgraceful.

Here's something for you to think about. If it's really gotten to the point where a male who is obviously physically stronger by the s-type many times over, can't figure out how to get the person to submit without using his physical strength? It's time to let that person go. Since you are still looking, rather than basing your question on a current relationship, might I suggest you use such criteria to help you in your partner selection?

As an additional piece of advice, read Ishtar's post again. There are definitely people out there who engage in face slapping, punching, kicking, etc. If you choose to engage in these activities and somebody calls a cop? Don't expect kink to be a good legal defense. If the other person is the one who makes the call, you're sunk.

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