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stef -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 12:47:51 AM)

Do you have a traumatic brain injury by any chance? It would explain a lot.



J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 12:52:16 AM)

Yes I do , I go to work every day and make may hard earned $$ like everybody who happen to have traumatic brain injuries like me ( according to lazy people like you ) is that what u wanna hear, will that satisfy your pitiful ego,



NookieNotes -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 4:05:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER
My 2nd question, in case a Goddess and a slave/sub enter in a relationship, under the absolute authority of the Goddess, what kind of guarantees and sureties can the slave/sub obtain and is entitled to, knowing that goddesses don't like to be negotiated , it is their way or the highway


The dominants with whom I have been acquainted, regardless of gender, do not negotiate. Personally, I work from the premise of "show me your path" .. Then I decide whether or not I want to follow. I would not ask for a dominant to compromise their wants or needs for me. If they did I would dump them. It is so much better to start from a path the Dom enjoys and which will make me joyful to follow because it is natural to both of us. Mmv


I agree. As a dominant, I am flexible in the sense that I want subs and partners that bring new things to my life.

I am not at all flexible in the overall path of the relationship, or being in charge and the final arbiter. Period. I am very clear on how that works up-front, so people may choose to continue with me or not, every step of the way.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 8:02:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

a woman won't write a thong ( for me ) i have never seen or heard a woman say that, a thong is a thong ,not for your husband , not for yoy daughter why yoy needed to emphasize on (for me )



I specified for me, because the other item, the butt plug, was not for me. It was for a female slave I'm playing with, and is going to be given to her.
But good for you that you found proof.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

I see now yoy resorted to using the word troll as an insult


Its a descriptor, because of your multiple inflammatory sock-puppet posts, that's what you're doing: trolling.
It's not any more an insult than if I call a pig a pig.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

Belgians principal language is french


No, Flemish (Dutch) is Belgium's principal language.
55% of the country has Flemish as their first language.
Only 36% of the country has French as their first language.

I'm from Flanders (Leuven, to be precise), and so my first language is Flemish. I'm also among the 55% of the country who doesn't speak French as a second language (it's my third in my case, because of how closely my grandparent's dialect is related to German), and I have to admit that I don't speak French nearly as well as I'd like. I can hold a verbal communication in it, but not a written one.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

I have read posts of people claiming they had met Ishtar in person , I don't think they were honest , montrose CO is almost on the Utah state line , I know the area, the closest one here of you all to montrose is at least 2000 miles


Yeah, I'm almost on the Utah state line (it's about 100min drive from here). Before I lived here, I've lived in Illinois, and before that Iowa. I've met people off this site in both states.
DarkSteven I met in Denver, where our 'local' BDSM club is we go to play once a month or so.
I met LadyPact, MrPact, Kana, and littlewonder in Baltimore a few weeks ago, while I was on the East Coast for MsC (a big Master/Mistress/slave Leather conference). I figured that considering that I'd flown all that way anyways to attend the conference, I might as well meet some friends who live on the East coast.

Its not unusual for me to travel quite a distance to meet people I like from online. A few weeks before the Leather conference, I rode my motorcycle down to Dallas, to meet two people there whom I know of this site as well. That was a 900mile (1500km) ride, JUST to go meet with them. (And I did it in a day on the way back... still so fucking proud about that. That was brutal. [:)])

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

I have done it before but in person



I've invited you over to come serve me in person at least half a dozen times now darling.
You refuse to set a date.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

$10,is it worth it ?



It's not a about the money cupcake. It's about the fact that I'm not going to do something for your (serve you) by going on cam, until you've shown me that you can and will obey me, before requesting favors from me. The amount is irrelevant, I've got stuff on my wishlist starting at 99 cents.
I don't care about the money, I care about compliance. Somebody, like you, who wants to remain strictly online (by refusing to set a date to meet in person) can show obedience and compliance in a way that keeps me interested by performing a task that doesn't turn you on. And doesn't get you in wanker/jerk-off land.
It just so happens that a wishlist is in your case a convenient, low effort, way to do that.



DesFIP -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 9:33:56 AM)

He prefers to get pallet wrap from Lowes or Home Depot. He finds that the handle makes wrapping me easier.
But no hood, just a blindfold. Because of my allergies, we worry about getting enough air through a hood.

Besides he prefers the look of a gag, and as eventually he's going to want to remove the gag and stick something else in my mouth, a hood would prevent that being done easily.

Do you just cut holes in the wrap if you want to get to specific spots, or put something under it to make cutting easier? I know a lot of people suggest putting bottle caps over nipples so you can cut against them.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 9:50:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

He prefers to get pallet wrap from Lowes or Home Depot. He finds that the handle makes wrapping me easier.



Yup, me too. I got pallet wrap in 3 colors, and little box wraps with handle for hard to reach places, or tighter fits.


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

But no hood, just a blindfold. Because of my allergies, we worry about getting enough air through a hood.


It depends entirely on the hood. Some hoods allow you to breath unrestricted.
If you're interested I'll give you some links to hoods that work better for people with breathing issues.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Do you just cut holes in the wrap if you want to get to specific spots, or put something under it to make cutting easier? I know a lot of people suggest putting bottle caps over nipples so you can cut against them.


It depends. Sometimes I put in stuff to cut against, bottle caps work great indeed (I like barbed wire under wrap too).
However, in this case, I can cut into her as much as it's still safe, so I don't think I'm going to bother. [;)]



J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 11:44:35 AM)

Listen Goddess, In my own opinion, your nationality, your language, your religion is not that of an issue to me.( this is not the problem) , I confirm the heterogeneity of Belgium, I have never been in Belgium, or known enough about it, However it looks like all the Belgians i met in Paris, were francophone,
and i will skip commenting on the "troll" and "pig" nonentity and move to more important stuff.

I've invited you over to come serve me in person at least half a dozen times now darling.
You refuse to set a date.
No, you have not invited me. you could have thought you invited me in your weird way, but I did not receive the invitation, in addition to that I did not even think you were serious about this whole thing, until I received the link. you asked what I would gift you, i offered flowers, and you refused them, that was a big turn off.

quot Dreamlady:
The fact that you refer to Dominant women as being Goddesses, sort of answers your own question vis-à-vis the title of your thread.
You want to worship a (Dominant) woman as a deified/superior being. From that standpoint, it is your desire to adulate which motivates you. She doesn't have to offer you didley-squat other than to stand/sit on that pedestal, if she chooses to do so.
_____________if all my Goddess CAN do is sit on the pedestal so be it. I am gonna buy her flowers, and she can accept or refuse.

I know you have some good characters as a person that i APPRECIATE and wont deny you. and that is also why we are having this conversation in the first place, because you let me a little bit close, even though you read my profile on alpha99, ladypact found it and posted a link to it,
http://www.collarspace.com/default.asp?v=856794&qvp=1&bhcp=1

whereas your profile does not say anything,otherwise we would not be having this conversation, I AM NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MY PRINCIPLE ABOUT FINDOM. IT IS FINAL!


_____It's not a about the money cupcake. It's about the fact that I'm not going to do something for your (serve you) by going on cam, until you've shown me that you can and will obey me, before requesting favors from me. The amount is irrelevant, I've got stuff on my wishlist starting at 99 cents.
I don't care about the money, I care about compliance. Somebody, like you, who wants to remain strictly online (by refusing to set a date to meet in person) can show obedience and compliance in a way that keeps me interested by performing a task that doesn't turn you on. And doesn't get you in wanker/jerk-off land.
It just so happens that a wishlist is in your case a convenient, low effort, way to do that.____
DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH, I did not say I wanna remain on line, READ MY PROFILE AGAIN,. I said the pace was a little too fast for me and all i wanted was to be able to do things in a timely manner,
last thing 900 miles in one day, wow, this is a record i am gonna break, mine BTW is 875 in one day



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 11:48:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

I AM NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MY PRINCIPLE ABOUT FINDOM. IT IS FINAL!



Neither am I. So you might as well stop making new profiles to attempt to circumvent me blocking you.


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

last thing 900 miles in one day, wow, this is a record i am gonna break, mine BTW is 875 in one day


It was a little over 900 cause I took a mountain pass that was more fun to ride than the shorter route (had to cross the Rockies to get home).

What kind of bike you ride?





J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 12:04:45 PM)

No dear Goddess, I love this screen name, and I hope it won't get banned again,but sure I won't bother you for the sake of self esteem,
If yoy took a short cut across the Rockies home , this would reduce the practical miles not increase them, .
I don't have a bike, I have a KW T700[sm=lastthing.gif]



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 12:26:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

If yoy took a short cut across the Rockies home , this would reduce the practical miles not increase them, .



Yeah, which is why I said I took a longer route, in order to take a more pleasurable home.

Need to cross the Rockies anyways, but then again, I do that about once every other week or so anyways, so that's hardly a big deal.



J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 12:40:45 PM)

I think hwy 550 SB is the best route to TX, it is a straight shot to Albuquerque, or do you take 50 west to i25 , that's an odd area😆 but why you don't drive your car ,that's a long distance or may because bikes are way better than gas, or you are one of those scary bikers with Harley Davidson leather vests. Oh you rid in a group, makes sense.



artemiss -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 1:13:30 PM)

I go to Walmart to pick up cheap shit, not a partner.



dreamlady -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 1:23:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

whereas your profile does not say anything,otherwise we would not be having this conversation, I AM NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MY PRINCIPLE ABOUT FINDOM. IT IS FINAL!


I'm not sure whether this was directed to me or to UllrsIshtar.
Surely not the say-nothing profile! (That would be a first for me.)

Other than Dommes being Goddesses, care to elaborate on what your principle about FinDom entails?
If it's the give-and-take aspect, then that takes place in any relationship.
It's the ground rules which are non-negotiable.

My advice to any submissive and/or bottom is if you encounter a Dominant and/or Top who flatly states they don't believe in quid pro quo in so many words - and you will invariably run into people who are simply users, submissive/bottoms, switches included, and vanillas alike - then this would be someone who is not worth trying to deal with.

Don't let the prospect of kinky sex, fetish gratification, and fantasy D/s role play cloud your judgment.
If your judgment isn't sound, then you (in general) have bigger problems than how to deal with finding the right Mistress.

DreamLady



OsideGirl -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 1:37:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

A few weeks before the Leather conference, I rode my motorcycle down to Dallas, to meet two people there whom I know of this site as well. That was a 900mile (1500km) ride, JUST to go meet with them. (And I did it in a day on the way back... still so fucking proud about that. That was brutal. [:)])




That is SO awesome. My longest so far is 300 miles. But, once I get the risers on my bars, I should be able to do more.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 1:55:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

I think hwy 550 SB is the best route to TX, it is a straight shot to Albuquerque, or do you take 50 west to i25 , that's an odd area😆



Of course I took 50 west to I25. Why on Earth would I go through Albuquerque to go to Dallas from Montrose on a motorcycle. I didn't get closer to Albuquerque than 200-250 miles.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

but why you don't drive your car



Because I don't drive.
I ride.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

that's a long distance or may because bikes are way better than gas,



Yeah right. The bike I did that on, at the speeds I rode it at, has 90-120 mile range on a tank. If you don't stop every hour to every hour and a half, you'd dead in the water in some Texas shithole with not a gas station in sight in a 60 mile radius.

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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

Oh you rid in a group, makes sense.


Nope.
You don't do rides like that in group.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 2:01:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

That is SO awesome. My longest so far is 300 miles. But, once I get the risers on my bars, I should be able to do more.



It was epic.
Both my husband and my friends thought I was nuts to do it in a day though. Especially on that bike. It took a little under 18 hours front door to front door, with the temperature ranging from 96 at the hottest point in Texas, to 52 going over Monarch pass at night.
I was a popsicle by the time I got home.

Totally worth it though... but never again. [;)]

Although... you're about 900miles out West from us. Maybe if I've forgotten how idiotic that was by the time the good riding weather comes back in spring, I'll do it the other direction and we can go riding together?






OsideGirl -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 2:12:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

That is SO awesome. My longest so far is 300 miles. But, once I get the risers on my bars, I should be able to do more.



It was epic.
Both my husband and my friends thought I was nuts to do it in a day though. Especially on that bike. It took a little under 18 hours front door to front door, with the temperature ranging from 96 at the hottest point in Texas, to 52 going over Monarch pass at night.
I was a popsicle by the time I got home.

Totally worth it though... but never again. [;)]

Although... you're about 900miles out West from us. Maybe if I've forgotten how idiotic that was by the time the good riding weather comes back in spring, I'll do it the other direction and we can go riding together?






Absolutely! We've got some fantastic twisties out here.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 2:24:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Absolutely! We've got some fantastic twisties out here.


Great! Sounds awesome.

Although I got this in my backyard as my go-to "just heading out for a few hours to relax without much planning" route... and I doubt you can top that.

http://excessivelocity.blogspot.com/2009/06/141-is-my-favorite-colorado-motorcycle.html

I'm spoiled.



J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 3:01:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dreamlady


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ORIGINAL: J0K3ER

whereas your profile does not say anything,otherwise we would not be having this conversation, I AM NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MY PRINCIPLE ABOUT FINDOM. IT IS FINAL!


I'm not sure whether this was directed to me or to UllrsIshtar.
Surely not the say-nothing profile! (That would be a first for me.)

Other than Dommes being Goddesses, care to elaborate on what your principle about FinDom entails?
If it's the give-and-take aspect, then that takes place in any relationship.
It's the ground rules which are non-negotiable.

Effortlessly skillful, pouring forth as always, this was Not to you, this, *I AM NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MY PRINCIPLE ABOUT FINDOM. IT IS FINAL! * was to UllrsIshtar, a findom relationship is a lose lose game to me , it also is not even a subject to the give and take principle, Findom is not a negotiable case in my opinion and thats all the details i can give about it.
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My advice to any submissive and/or bottom is if you encounter a Dominant and/or Top who flatly states they don't believe in quid pro quo in so many words - and you will invariably run into people who are simply users, submissive/bottoms, switches included, and vanillas alike - then this would be someone who is not worth trying to deal with.

Hear!Hear!

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Don't let the prospect of kinky sex, fetish gratification, and fantasy D/s role play cloud your judgment.
If your judgment isn't sound, then you (in general) have bigger problems than how to deal with finding the right Mistress.

Unfortunately it does, right formula,right object, right time , and you can work havoc.






J0K3ER -> RE: What can a Goddess possibly offer. (10/10/2015 3:23:00 PM)

you said Texas not Dallas, Texas is bigger than most European Countries ,it is 900 miles from state line to state line,
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Yeah right. The bike I did that on, at the speeds I rode it at, has 90-120 mile range on a tank. If you don't stop every hour to every hour and a half, you'd dead in the water in some Texas shithole with not a gas station in sight in a 60 mile radius.

MDR, [sm=banghead.gif], then if you plan on making a habit of it , this bike riding stuff, be careful in Wyoming , i can guarantee you 100+ Miles, with nothing in sight.



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