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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
I'm not. You have put two and two together and ended up with six.
No, not at all. But I do think we are speaking of apples and oranges.
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
During both World Wars the Germans were loathe to utilise women.
Your definition of utilize is not the same as mine. No offense, but you seem to have a fairly limited view. I won't even call it utilitarian, because there were innumerable practical contributions that German women made to support and to sustain The Third Reich, beyond making themselves available for baby-making. That policy didn't get implemented until further on down the line. Are you contending that German women weren't nurses, were not Nazi party members, that there weren't any German female officers, civil servants or war-effort volunteers? Not to mention all the rich widows digging deep into their pockets and availing the military of their estates and other land holdings.
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
At times during both World Wars it could have tipped the balance in their favour.
And who is to say that it didn't prime the war engine machinery and make it possible for the Germans to have been as successful as they were? Part of Hitler's appeal was his charismatic influence over groups of females, including the wives of the men in the National Socialist party from which this son-of-an-Austrian-customs-official of lower middle-class upbringing, WWI veteran who never made it to the ranks of the German officers' corps, launched his meteoric rise to powerful leadership positions. In those days, he became quite the rock star.
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
Both the United States and Britain weren't much of a threat to Germany until 1943/44, and so the Germans had a good couple of years to get the better of the Russians before they had their hands full.
It certainly didn't help that they had some theoretical dream of Adam and Eve tilling the land, while their competitors, such as The Soviet Union and Britain said fuck that: if you have a pair if legs and a pair of hands then you need to do your bit.
I don't think I have to prove I can count the fingers on both hands to surmise that you presume that having a shared-mass vision of an idealistic nature is not integral to furthering one's political ideologies.
What you describe is taking the defensive position. Yes, the Russians have certainly shown since before Napoleon's invading armies set foot on Russian soil that they are the poster children for survivalist, if not reactionary, responses. This is the motherland that gave them Czar Ivan the Terrible and the Bolsheviks. 
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
As for the 'American Dream', it wasn't much of a dream in Britain. Making these bombs involved some highly dangerous chemicals that left women with yellow skin for years and killed more than a few.
To be honest, only an American could turn making bombs in a factory into a 'dream'.
I would have thought that working through the clock with highly dangerous chemicals would have been far from a dream.
If you would be so kind as to re-read my post, I was specifically referring to the post-war 1950s Household ideal as pertaining to Americana: Yanno, white picket fence, "Leave It to Beaver," baseball, suburbia, two-parent families who are actively involved in their children's lives, scenes from Norman Rockwell, et al.
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RE: women to register for the draft - 
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if you the woman see's that as ok. Full equality of the sex's in America is still in progress, but full enclusion into the armed forces by one rule for all is going to be the way to go. Women certainly can ambush an enemy patrol just as likely as an all male army.... so kudos when it happens...
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