alpha499 -> RE: Serious question (10/28/2015 1:05:08 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Faldegast While it's of course useful if everyone always are clear enough for everyone to correctly interpret what they are saying, it cannot be expected of anyone. Even people that has entire staffs of people clarifying their communication still gets misinterpreted. Then they need to hire better staff - if they cannot communicate what they want to say, then that's their problem, not the reader's. HE MEANS IT CAN GET MISINTERPRETTED SOMETIMES NOT ALWAYS. And why you have a point that's not that clear cut. Many still believe that "might makes right" and there are good arguments for it. They can believe what they want - 'stronger and/or richer' just means they are in a better position to bully, it doesn't make them right.IT IS NOT ABOUT WRONG OR RIGHT, IT IS ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENING AND IN FULL EFFECT. LIKE HE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU AND FAILED. JUST LIKE I FAILED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU A VERY SIMPLE STATEMENT, LIKE THE SMOKING EXAMPLE HE GAVE YOU, IF SOMEONE DRIVES 15 MILES AT 3:00 AM TO GO BUY CIGARETTES DOES THIS MAKE THEM WRONG? THE PROBLEM IS YOU, AND MANY OTHERS LIKE YOU, CAN D WHAT THEY EXPECT ONLY UNDERSTAN. Generally money is a reward for social contribution and there is a point in favouring those that contribute more to society. So teachers, nurses, fire fighters, armed forces, paramedics, do not contribute as much to society as someone who sells videogames or mansions? Yeah, that makes sense...[8|] THIS IS A FACT ..........SOMEONE RICHER IS CONTRIBUTING MORE TO THE SOCIETY AND ......SMARTER. Also there is a strong correlation between income and knowledge, intelligence and skill. So there aren't people who are intelligent, knowledgeable and highly skilled who chose to 'give back' to society without demanding a high wage? Yeah....no. Even when the income comes from inherited money. Statistically it is more likely that someone richer than you are right and you are wrong. That made me LOL! So, where are these 'statistics'? "Winning" a debate doesn't mean that you are right. The other party may simply have inferior ability to express their knowledge. Which is a point I was trying to make - if they can't communicate properly then they aren't going to win anything because they lack clarity and precision of thought. MAY BE IT IS NOT CLARITY THEY LACK, MAY BE THEY ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE. Some rich people may be perceived as self-obsessed narcissistic assholes. However there are contradictions in that statement. Self obsessed people are rarely narcissistic in an entrepreneural sense, that's engaging in social improvement which are the opposite of being self obsessed. Also you imply that being narcissistic assholes are somehow something bad. We clearly move in very different circles. The 'successful' businesspeople I have worked with across Europe and the US were, on the whole, assholes who only cared about themselves, their career and the money they were making. Sad, really. Also you imply that being narcissistic assholes are somehow something bad. Being an asshole is not a good thing. It means you're an asshole. Being a narcissistic asshole is just polishing that particular turd a little. If you are a smoker intent on continuing habits you will find that a lot of people are narcissistic assholes. You may as well perceive them to be self-obsessed because they interfere with your choices. Does that make them so? Well they are probably partially complaining out of your impact on their own wellbeing. Does that make people self obsessed when complaining at others smoking habits? Partially. Are people narcissistic? Yeah they probably want to control the smoker to the degree that the habit is eliminated. I know I do, sometimes such as in public transportation my imagination carries away into quite hostile thoughts. I never act on them of course but they still are narcissistic. And finally if I point out that someone shouldn't smoke, am i an asshole? Yes. Is it wrong for me to be any of this? Smoking is a nice example because most of us know how harmful it is and the smell makes it easy to detect. The impact of other choices you make on the wellbeing on others are less obvious to detect. If someone points it out because they smell the smoke and you don't you may classify their behaviour in another way than you would classify someone that complaints about smoking. That classifies you as a hypocrite. I couldn't care less if people smoke, as long as they don't do it near me. I don't see them as narcissistic, I see them as addicts. Whether or not they are assholes too is entirely down to the invididual. LOOKS BETTER THIS WAY AINT IT ?
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