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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:04:30 AM   
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go back and read carefully, I didnt comment on LCs posts, neither would I, as I understand where she is coming from
Trying to correlate mine and LCs post is being intellectually ignorant. because, yanno, women, dont all follow the same thought patterns. We actually think differently on multiple things.
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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:21:47 AM   
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I read a lot of male statements here that are apparently based on their claimed ability to read a woman's mind ...

I wonder: how long does it take for a man to learn that he simply can't mindread?

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:25:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you seem to think she is demonizing women, its YOU that are Kreychec.
Half the population have "titties"
HALF.... thats a lot of titties.
I bet you would bitch like hell if a fat chick or an old fat chick with stretch marks dared to bear her body, it would have you whinging like an undescended ball sac.




Both LC and I were inclusive in your post with use of the pronouns "she" and "you". So yea, correlated. Also, people won't take you seriously if your "intellectual" arsenal only consists of fallacious insults and pretention.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:25:25 AM   
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some never learn. then get upset at the women.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:28:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blnymph

I read a lot of male statements here that are apparently based on their claimed ability to read a woman's mind ...

I wonder: how long does it take for a man to learn that he simply can't mindread?

We can't mind read. We are capable of introspection, observation, some of us even have a passion for psychology.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 4:59:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kreychec

Favoring idealism over reality often times leads to failed expectations, in your case this would be of both men and women.
Women who exploit their sexuality have an edge socially over those who don't, just because a woman chooses to do so does not mean she is inept in any sort of way. IE, strippers typically have great personality & intellect.
Also,
I just asked my girl and her friends if they consider how others view their dress, they all said yes.




Your ability to comprehend is lacking...

I don't have a problem with women who "exploit" their sexuality, did you miss out that I mentioned I got my kit off for Playboy? Trust me, the idea that some idiot would leer at me and drool "titties, titties" didn't enter the equation, well maybe briefly as "poor sods", it was "I'm getting paid a shit load of money for this, Trinity here I come!"

Some girl flashing her tits at a football match, oh yeah, you are interested in her personality and intellect? Is that after you took care of the tennis elbow?

Yes, women do care how others view how they dress, but apparently you also couldn't read that women dress more for women than random men, because most hetero men just don't have a clue about women's fashion. I can walk into a meeting, and yes, it's important how I dress, the guys won't have any idea who's the designer of the suit, shoes or bag, most of the women will be able to tell me even the line of that designer if it's Marc Jacbos or Marc by Jacobs, MiuMiu or Prada.

Wow, you asked your girl and her friends about that, just now? Didn't you mention in another post that you just happen to be in Belgium or some other European country and they are all with you? Your profile states you are 21 and from Arizona... You also state how great you are in bed (ick, guys who are don't have to tell others), you are starting your own business soon and got ventures going for you. You're in a foreign country and you spend your time talking to guys who pretend to be women and then brag about it in your journal?

Btw if your age is correct, you only recently were allowed to go to strip joints, I'm sure you concluded tons of research there about the personality of strippers, once you stopped being mesmerized by titties. You know the part time PA I have works on the weekend in table dance bar (and good for her), but she always amuses me with stories about guys that seem to be your carbon copies. She said implying she finds the leering boys or old guys remotely attractive doubles her tips and dances. She earns a lot less working for me than she does at the club, but she's smart enough to know she needs something she can put on her resume once she's finished with uni and that she can list this job as work experience. That's what I call a smart young woman, she doesn't exploit her sexuality, she dances and some sad guy is desperate enough to pay for it. You might want to hear how strippers talk about their customers when the guys aren't around, but it would possibly make you cry.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 5:27:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kreychec

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you seem to think she is demonizing women, its YOU that are Kreychec.
Half the population have "titties"
HALF.... thats a lot of titties.
I bet you would bitch like hell if a fat chick or an old fat chick with stretch marks dared to bear her body, it would have you whinging like an undescended ball sac.




Both LC and I were inclusive in your post with use of the pronouns "she" and "you". So yea, correlated. Also, people won't take you seriously if your "intellectual" arsenal only consists of fallacious insults and pretention.


Nope, you didn't comprehend.

And don't worry kid, we aren't taking you seriously, once you've grown up and developed the intellect you're so busy bragging about, we may reconsider.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 5:33:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kreychec

Favoring idealism over reality often times leads to failed expectations, in your case this would be of both men and women.
Women who exploit their sexuality have an edge socially over those who don't, just because a woman chooses to do so does not mean she is inept in any sort of way. IE, strippers typically have great personality & intellect.
Also,
I just asked my girl and her friends if they consider how others view their dress, they all said yes.




Your ability to comprehend is lacking...

I don't have a problem with women who "exploit" their sexuality, did you miss out that I mentioned I got my kit off for Playboy? Trust me, the idea that some idiot would leer at me and drool "titties, titties" didn't enter the equation, well maybe briefly as "poor sods", it was "I'm getting paid a shit load of money for this, Trinity here I come!"

Some girl flashing her tits at a football match, oh yeah, you are interested in her personality and intellect? Is that after you took care of the tennis elbow?

Yes, women do care how others view how they dress, but apparently you also couldn't read that women dress more for women than random men, because most hetero men just don't have a clue about women's fashion. I can walk into a meeting, and yes, it's important how I dress, the guys won't have any idea who's the designer of the suit, shoes or bag, most of the women will be able to tell me even the line of that designer if it's Marc Jacbos or Marc by Jacobs, MiuMiu or Prada.

Wow, you asked your girl and her friends about that, just now? Didn't you mention in another post that you just happen to be in Belgium or some other European country and they are all with you? Your profile states you are 21 and from Arizona... You also state how great you are in bed (ick, guys who are don't have to tell others), you are starting your own business soon and got ventures going for you. You're in a foreign country and you spend your time talking to guys who pretend to be women and then brag about it in your journal?

Btw if your age is correct, you only recently were allowed to go to strip joints, I'm sure you concluded tons of research there about the personality of strippers, once you stopped being mesmerized by titties. You know the part time PA I have works on the weekend in table dance bar (and good for her), but she always amuses me with stories about guys that seem to be your carbon copies. She said implying she finds the leering boys or old guys remotely attractive doubles her tips and dances. She earns a lot less working for me than she does at the club, but she's smart enough to know she needs something she can put on her resume once she's finished with uni and that she can list this job as work experience. That's what I call a smart young woman, she doesn't exploit her sexuality, she dances and some sad guy is desperate enough to pay for it. You might want to hear how strippers talk about their customers when the guys aren't around, but it would possibly make you cry.

In Arizona you can get into a strip club at 18, or at least the ones I go to. I'm nearly 22 so I consider 4 years to be a long time.

Yes, I'm a great lover, it all comes down to being considerate. Being black helps too lol. And so what if I take pride in it and jot it down in my bio?

I'm In Belgium visiting my girlfriend, people travel.

My Journal entry goes like this, "A man pretended to be a woman online. He said he lived in DC. I told him I live at 1600 Penn Ave. He had no clue, have fun in ghana." That was a bit on scammers, not whatever you misconstrued it to be.

Now that I've explained myself to a stranger on Cs lets get back to the topic at hand.

You're ok with women exploiting their sexuality for profit, got it.

You consider men who pay women for a good time to be desperate and lonely, got it.

You also used to be a stripper, got it.

What I don't get is why you said this, "Why do some women flash their tits? They don't have much else to impress a guy with and they know a certain type of guy doesn't care for much else than titties and as long the guy has a fat wallet, they don't care. Or they are desperate to be pictured like that and maybe get a career on page 3, which means they can bag a guy who's not too burdened with intellect, maybe they even get him to marry and then get the pay off. "

My whole contention was against your argument, "Girls who exploit their sexuality don't have much else to impress a guy with".
You as an Ex-Stripper should know that's a damned lie.

As to what type of men girls attract, that's on them. What I will tell you is that men with prestigious positions in society often times have "Trophy Wives". Their marriages typically don't last long but that's another issue.

And yes, I'm up to speed on what strippers think of some of their clients. But as long as the creeps pay who gives a fuck.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 5:40:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kreychec

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

you seem to think she is demonizing women, its YOU that are Kreychec.
Half the population have "titties"
HALF.... thats a lot of titties.
I bet you would bitch like hell if a fat chick or an old fat chick with stretch marks dared to bear her body, it would have you whinging like an undescended ball sac.




Both LC and I were inclusive in your post with use of the pronouns "she" and "you". So yea, correlated. Also, people won't take you seriously if your "intellectual" arsenal only consists of fallacious insults and pretention.


Nope, you didn't comprehend.

And don't worry kid, we aren't taking you seriously, once you've grown up and developed the intellect you're so busy bragging about, we may reconsider.

I was just giving credit to Lucys use of the word intellect, she likes to use it alot apparently.
Tbh, If you want to get feisty and kill the discussion I wont be complicit.
Have a nice life, I'll be enjoying my youth.
Kid out.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 5:46:10 AM   
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run away, runnnnnnnnnn away


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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 5:53:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: crumpets


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Why do you assume women "crave" attention from men by showing boobs?

Why else would a woman wear clothing like this at a public sports event?


Ooops. I mean, like this:


And if you look at the men surrounding the topless girl, did you not notice that NONE of them are staring at her tits... not a single one???

You talk about looking up email headers and claim that it isn't stalking.
You also say that geolocating the headers also isn't stalking.
While those activities, in and of themselves, isn't stalking, your next bit (from your post #58) in conjunction with your other activities, certainly is within the realms of stalking and waay beyond what would be considered "normal" even within BDSM and kink circles.
Post#58: "Knowing the first shot is often the only one, what I then did was change my zip code to be closer to her. It only took a few iterations before I was 1 mile away from her section of town, which is close enough for government work."
That activity is just creepy and shit-weird!!

As for your other musings on the word "No".
No means just that - NO!!
If you are contending that you missed out a lot because the women you were with didn't really mean 'no' and walked away, then all I can say is that you are totally inept and suck at reading body language.
That is no fault of the women or the way they behaved or what they said; you were just really crap at being a sensible guy and fucked it up for yourself.
Not just the once, but many times according to your post.
There's no mystery - you fucked up, consistently and repeatedly. Simple as that.
What's worse is that you don't seem to have learned anything from your persistent mistakes.

For someone of your age, that is completely and utterly deplorable and unforgivable.


From your post#142 -
"So, I'll have to agree with you, if for no other reason than that there has been nary a hint of discord amongst the crowd that thinks it is creepy to geolocate email headers.
Everyone who posted thought it was creepy for someone to geolocate their email headers.
"
You really really don't geddit do you?
You are really soo naive and inept that you just can't see where you are going wrong.
It's not reading the headers or the geolocating - it's all the other crap you do on top of that.
I've already explained. But if you can't see it, there's no hope for you.


Another tidbit in your reply to AAkasha: "Basically, what you're advising seems to be, IGNORE everything you can possibly know about "her".... but, just WAIT for her to TELL me what she wants me to know.".
Yep. That's about the size of it.
Taking note of the things you find out is one thing. Using info from her blog or her profile is perfectly Ok.
However, to go all out and PROVE that you've been snooping behind her back is quite another - and that's what will creep people out every time.
What's worse is the fact that you'll do all this crazy shit when she really hasn't let you know what she wants you to know.
People will tell you what they want you to know about themselves.
Let them do it, let them set the pace; because obviously you don't have the aptitude, the knowledge, or acumen to pull it off yourself.


To pick up some more points from post#73 -
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Post#73
God can teach you no more than what you already know.

As for me, I think differently than you (and, yes, the "ly" on the adverb means something).

I think that if you think all trees are the same, then you know nothing whatsoever about trees
(and I know a LOT about trees - and they're not all the same).

I think that if you think all bacteria are the same, then you know nothing whatsoever about bacteria
(and, yes, I know a LOT about bacteria - and they're all different - although I don't know every single bacterium, so, when you boil it down to a single bacterium, I can't say either way if they're the same or not).

I think that if you think all cats or all dogs or all rocks or all planets or all solar systems, (or whatever) are the same, then all it says is that you know nothing about that which we are talking about.

What a pompous ass you are!

I don't believe in ethereal beings in the sky - I'm Pagan.

If I want to think of a green leafy canopy in the sun, to me, all trees are the same.
I actually know they aren't; but for the purposes at the time, a tree is a tree is a tree and that's ALL I need to know to enjoy it.

As for bacteria, I know we have some good stuff and bad stuff.
If I have the good stuff - yay for me!
If I catch some of the bad shit - I get ill, sometimes seriously.
Do I need to know what the fuck type or strain of bacteria I'd caught??
Fuck no!! That's what a doctor is for - to identify it and give me the right meds and to advise me of what to do not to catch it again.

I know not all cats and dogs are the same (I've just purchased a pedigree F4 Savannah FFS. Look it up). But if I want a furry cuddly friend, either one will do for me. If I care for it properly (and that's when I do my research), it'll give me all the unconditional love that I'll ever want or need from a furry friend. That's ALL I need to know. I'm quite capable of deciding what type I want without doing PhD level research of every damned 4-legged furry critter on the planet.
As for planets and rocks and other shit, unless I'm wanting to know something in particular, like most people, I really don't give a flying fuck.
I wouldn't go looking just for the sheer hell of it - I'm too busy with life to get bogged down in itty-bitty details that I'm not concerned with.

And your final comment....
quote:

Post#73
Worse, you have no idea that you know nothing.

I do know a lot about a lot of things. Probably more than you will ever learn in some areas.
But the fact that I don't go randomly data mining every bit of everything I come across in my life doesn't mean I'm lacking anywhere and not knowing.
I know what I need to know to make my life livable and generally safe for myself and my family.

That is rather a derogatory and disingenuous statement to make - even more so when you appear to smear everyone with it that doesn't do your OCD behaviour (because that's what it is - OCD, not 'due diligence').


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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:01:53 AM   
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LOL, I thought he was a bit weird, now that we know that he's a kid hiding in mom's basement the stunted growth he displays emotionally and intellectually doesn't surprise me.

I guess he's too busy "travelling the world" on his computer 24/7 and trying to convince others and himself what a catch he is. A picture that doesn't look like it's a mug shot after you've been pulled over for DUI might work better.



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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:10:01 AM   
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You people are indulging shifty's predilection for ten-pagers. It's just not right.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:13:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: blnymph

I read a lot of male statements here that are apparently based on their claimed ability to read a woman's mind ...

I wonder: how long does it take for a man to learn that he simply can't mindread?
Well not only that, but what kind of idiot wants to read an empty book anyway? Sheesh.


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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:13:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness

You people are indulging shifty's predilection for ten-pagers. It's just not right.

You have a problem with that??


5 more posts to go!!!

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:23:12 AM   
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LOL adding to the predilections of Shifty is so kind of you Awareness:)

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 6:37:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: crumpets
So, I assumed there were automated programs, bots if you will, who had javascript extensions or some other automatic email activity.
For example, nobody has said that new users get announced to folks email (and since I almost always use a faked email, I wouldn't know if they were).

But, the answer seemed more mundane than at first wondered.
The pouncers just sit there. They lie in wait. They hit a dozen buttons at a time, and they (for the most part, must) paste a form letter response.
Some, of course, photoshopped my picture within the hour, so, they didn't do the form response (although their text that came with the photo was probably formed prior).
No. You're wrong. The answer is even more prosaic than that.

It's just numbers. At this point in time roughly 1800 users are browsing the message boards. The number of people browsing the main site is probably anywhere between 3-10 times that. The site has a "New Users" list which can be clicked on at any time.

Nobody's lying in wait and pouncing. These are just normal users clicking on a new profile and firing off an email. Your mistake is to really underestimate the impact that thousands of simultaneous users can have.

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 8:08:58 AM   
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Well, we can't disappoint Shifty...

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
No. You're wrong. The answer is even more prosaic than that.

It's just numbers. At this point in time roughly 1800 users are browsing the message boards. The number of people browsing the main site is probably anywhere between 3-10 times that. The site has a "New Users" list which can be clicked on at any time.

Nobody's lying in wait and pouncing. These are just normal users clicking on a new profile and firing off an email. Your mistake is to really underestimate the impact that thousands of simultaneous users can have.

I'm not so sure about that. For some of these things, the coincidence is far too great.

You have to remember something, Awareness. Some of the folks who pounce on the 'New Member' list really just are desperate for attention. The hopes of *any* interaction does motivate some people. It's the buckshot approach. Mail as many people as they can just hoping somebody will interact with them. Some folks are terribly lonely and it's really all they have. I don't understand it, myself, but we've all seen it, even on the forums. Some people really do have sad, pathetic lives without a shred of self-worth because that's not their day to day existence.

Would you not agree?




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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 8:39:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingreality
4. Men and couples don't get many unsolicited emails.

Thanks again for helping to answer the question.

Your response reminded me that I had forgotten about the male duplicate profile that started this quick experiment and, I logged in just now to delete it fully, when, much to my surprise, I saw that it had finally received its very first email!

Woo hoo... a canned 4-word spam!

I must say, with respect to the stalking, the one and only post garnered by the male profile was clearly written by someone who didn't even READ the profile, while a quick look at the female profile at the time showed at least that many people (couples mostly) did read the profile and they did respond to that profile specifically.

Which ... just goes to show ... either women are stalked more than men ... or ... they're just vastly more interesting than are men!

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RE: What do senders do that they can so quickly POUNCE ... - 11/4/2015 9:00:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
My husband can stand in front of a woman dressed like that and not look at her boobs.


Yeah? You believe that?
Do you believe that he still looks away when you're NOT right there next to him?
C'mon. He's a guy (I must presume). And, he's still alive, right?

Fact is, I've learned a LOT from this thread, and I much appreciate your input.

The reason we see things quite differently is simply that our entire experience in life is not at all the same!

People flock to you. They are INTERESTED in you. They want to know more about you. In my quick search for information about you, I found bloggers TALKING about you (behind your back, as it were), and I found sites RATING your web site. You have a bigger presence on the web than you might even know, simply because PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN YOU.

In fact, for the purpose of this thread only, I was also interested in you. For example, to my knowledge, I had never prior even looked at your profile (as I don't usually bother for respondents in the web forum). Not only had I not cared enough about you to look at your profile, but I certainly had never bothered to read your web site, nor had I read any of your literotica scattered about on the web - yet - what I found in a cursory search wholly impressed me.

You're not juts one of many. You, like your husband, do have class! (As just one example, you explained why you don't have a photo on your web site, and it make perfect sense that you could put a faked photo-shopped photo, but, instead, you preferred to have some class and not try to be fake for business purposes. You also explained how you love toys, so much that you often buy toys for men, which isn'[t anything your run-of-the-mill competitors would ever think of).

Having said that, let's get back to those boobs, shall we (because the point is germane why we see stalking differently).
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It makes the same amount of sense as you telling me not to look at the boobs of a lady who is standing right in front of me with her blouse unbuttoned to her navel.

After thinking about this overnight, I realized that nobody is at all interested in me. So, nobody is gonna stare at me no matter what I wear, nor are they gonna even bother to read my profile, and, certainly, to the point, they're not even gonna waste their time looking at MY email headers, nor geolocating my IP address (you didn't even bother - when I gave you the perfect opportunity to).

Yet, you - ah you ... on the other hand. You're INTERESTING just like any woman with her blouse unbuttoned to her navel is interesting!

That's germane because people want to know MORE about you, just as they would likely not only look at any woman with her blouse unbuttoned to her navel, but some would be so bold as to walk up to her to strike up a conversation, and to follow her around, and to talk about her, perhaps they'd snap a photo of her, and certainly they'd be much more interested in WHO she is (and, by way of extension, how they could get their hands on those boobs).

So, if I were to stand right next to this lady, nobody would care, no matter how open my shirt was, while, everyone (women included) would be talking about the lady in the restaurant with her boobs nearly bared.

Why am I saying all this obvious stuff?

I think the reason you take almost anything as creepy stalking is because you're supremely and very sensitively tuned to people you don't know being inordinately INTERESTED in you!

Meanwhile nobody is at all interested in looking me up, even if/when I give them the opportunity to do so.

Basically, I see your reaction as senseless because, in my world, the world I have been exposed to for half a lifetime, nobody cares to stalk me (except a bunch of Italian thugs). Yet, in your world, ALMOST EVERYONE cares to know more about you.

Hence, your super-sensitive well-overt-the-top reaction to what you perceive as creepy stalking.

(in reply to AAkasha)
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