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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/13/2015 12:17:50 PM   
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kirsten powers, isnt she slightly left of coulter?
just another rw asshole with a vaj..
yeah I have as much desire to read her spurious crap as I have to follow palin on facebook.




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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 1:38:26 PM   
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"Universities Should Be Unsafe for Political Correctness"

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The current code word being tossed around to protect political correctness from competition in the marketplace of ideas is “unsafe.”...

no one on a university campus should be or feel safe or protected when it comes to the never-ending war of ideas...

An important role of the university is to challenge every idea, every truth, every sacred notion, even if challenge makes students (or faculty) feel intellectually uncomfortable, unsettled, or unsafe. There must be no safe spaces in the classroom or auditorium that protect members of the university community from dangerous, disturbing or even emotionally unsettling ideas...

But what about ideas that really do make certain individuals or groups feel intellectually or emotionally unsafe — ideas such as opposition to gay marriage, to a woman’s right to choose abortion, to race-based affirmative action, to religion in general or to particular religious or religious practices, to Zionism or anti-Zionism?

It is especially these unpopular ideas — some of which were quite popular in the recent past — that today need protection against the forces of political correctness that seek to stifle dissent in the name of safety.

So long as there is no realistic, imminent threat to physical safety — such as an incitement to commit violence against gays, women, blacks, Jews, etc. — the university must assure the safety of the politically incorrect speaker, student, faculty member, administrator or employee. The answer to bad speech must be good speech; the response to false ideas must be true ideas; the protection against dangerous ideas is effective rebuttal, not censorship...

Freedom of dissent on many university campuses is quickly becoming an endangered species. Many constituent groups support free speech “for me but not for thee.” Ideas that they express come within the ambit of free expression, but opposing ideas that make them feel unsafe are now included in the amorphous category of “harassment.”...


http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/647245

its another version of what ive been saying---liberals want conservatives to shut up, and conservatives want liberals to keep talking...

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 1:52:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

"Universities Should Be Unsafe for Political Correctness"

quote:

The current code word being tossed around to protect political correctness from competition in the marketplace of ideas is “unsafe.”...

no one on a university campus should be or feel safe or protected when it comes to the never-ending war of ideas...

An important role of the university is to challenge every idea, every truth, every sacred notion, even if challenge makes students (or faculty) feel intellectually uncomfortable, unsettled, or unsafe. There must be no safe spaces in the classroom or auditorium that protect members of the university community from dangerous, disturbing or even emotionally unsettling ideas...

But what about ideas that really do make certain individuals or groups feel intellectually or emotionally unsafe — ideas such as opposition to gay marriage, to a woman’s right to choose abortion, to race-based affirmative action, to religion in general or to particular religious or religious practices, to Zionism or anti-Zionism?

It is especially these unpopular ideas — some of which were quite popular in the recent past — that today need protection against the forces of political correctness that seek to stifle dissent in the name of safety.

So long as there is no realistic, imminent threat to physical safety — such as an incitement to commit violence against gays, women, blacks, Jews, etc. — the university must assure the safety of the politically incorrect speaker, student, faculty member, administrator or employee. The answer to bad speech must be good speech; the response to false ideas must be true ideas; the protection against dangerous ideas is effective rebuttal, not censorship...

Freedom of dissent on many university campuses is quickly becoming an endangered species. Many constituent groups support free speech “for me but not for thee.” Ideas that they express come within the ambit of free expression, but opposing ideas that make them feel unsafe are now included in the amorphous category of “harassment.”...


http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/647245

its another version of what ive been saying---liberals want conservatives to shut up, and conservatives want liberals to keep talking...
And oddly enough...that's the idea Obama pushed that I took note of in the OP. Yet, note how many did not address their hero agreeing with those who disagree with PC speech and "safe" zones.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 3:56:16 PM   
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i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 6:02:10 PM   
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i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 6:08:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.
Bring forth the proof...something that someone on the right said that speaks directly or even somewhat indirectly to that person wanting to be a dictator.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 6:28:30 PM   
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Sure. How about the drive for one party leadership during the Bush Administration?

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 8:49:38 PM   
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Sure. How about the drive for one party leadership during the Bush Administration?

Led by who? Because it's not mentioned here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush

or here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Powell

Or here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoleezza_Rice

Or here:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/10/dems-o11.html?view=article_mobile

Or here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-gop-became-the-party-of-the-rich-20111109?page=8

Or here:
http://www.biography.com/people/george-w-bush-9232768

Or here:
http://millercenter.org/president/biography/gwbush-campaigns-and-elections

Those are among the first 10 Google entries that come up after plugging in "drive for one party leadership during the Bush administration".
None of them extreme left or right wing sources. And there's left wing sources in these writings. Of all the criticisms I found, not one stated anything close to what you did. So...how about a source? Which is what was asked for in my previous post.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/14/2015 9:01:52 PM   
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On the topic of one-party leadership:

House Republicans eye '100-year majority' (Walden echoes Rove)

Welcome to the Machine (K Street Project)

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 3:53:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

On the topic of one-party leadership:

House Republicans eye '100-year majority' (Walden echoes Rove)

Welcome to the Machine (K Street Project)


What is this obsession of altar boys with the truth. Don't you ever get tired of constantly,day in and day out pointing out truth when a lie is a much better read?

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 7:42:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.
Bring forth the proof...something that someone on the right said that speaks directly or even somewhat indirectly to that person wanting to be a dictator.


Here is W The only specific reference I've yet to find. BUT.....

The formation of the Federal Reserve and it's financial control, even Wilson's election...all engineered and financed by the right wing. The actual conspiracy to enact a military coup against FDR in 1933 using Gen. Smedely Butler as their commander, was wholly from the right.

Freedoms are often suppressed and opponents are sometimes murdered. There are elements of paranoia and fear, generally ultimately a police state...where the US is slowly going now. Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners.

Examples include: Pinochet regime in Chile, Montt in Guatemala, Hitler and Nazi Germany. Leninist/Stalinist Russia, The rise of which and attainment of political and economic power along with it...all financed by western bankers and industrial elites on the right.

Nationalist socialism and communist socialism being only political cover to usurp [it] and empower the elites, their oligarchs and politicians from the right. The Apartheid regime in South Africa is another.

Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners. Chavez, a man who was jailed for an attempted coup and his rise was through the democratic process ('man of the people' cover) but once in power, reflected the same traits as those above.




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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 9:17:07 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

On the topic of one-party leadership:

House Republicans eye '100-year majority' (Walden echoes Rove)

Welcome to the Machine (K Street Project)


What is this obsession of altar boys with the truth. Don't you ever get tired of constantly,day in and day out pointing out truth when a lie is a much better read?

Just one problem...the original comment was an accusation of a dictatorship wanted by the right. I asked for proof of anyone from the right stating that or anyone from the right pushing that.

A one-party majority? That's what every party wants...Democrat or Republican. And that's not a dictatorship.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 9:22:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.
Bring forth the proof...something that someone on the right said that speaks directly or even somewhat indirectly to that person wanting to be a dictator.


Here is W The only specific reference I've yet to find. BUT.....

The formation of the Federal Reserve and it's financial control, even Wilson's election...all engineered and financed by the right wing. The actual conspiracy to enact a military coup against FDR in 1933 using Gen. Smedely Butler as their commander, was wholly from the right.

Freedoms are often suppressed and opponents are sometimes murdered. There are elements of paranoia and fear, generally ultimately a police state...where the US is slowly going now. Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners.

Examples include: Pinochet regime in Chile, Montt in Guatemala, Hitler and Nazi Germany. Leninist/Stalinist Russia, The rise of which and attainment of political and economic power along with it...all financed by western bankers and industrial elites on the right.

Nationalist socialism and communist socialism being only political cover to usurp [it] and empower the elites, their oligarchs and politicians from the right. The Apartheid regime in South Africa is another.

Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners. Chavez, a man who was jailed for an attempted coup and his rise was through the democratic process ('man of the people' cover) but once in power, reflected the same traits as those above.

But were not talking about other countries, Mr Cardigan. Your comment was about Bush being a dictator. And your basing that off a cheap, stupid-meant-to-be-humorous remark born out of frustration in dealing with his opponents? Talk about paranoia...

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 10:10:53 AM   
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absolutely love this:

"Progressivism and the authoritarian impulse"

quote:

Fish’s [you'll have to go to the link for the background] single standard, distilled and properly understood, is that self-styled liberals are (they’ll claim) morally superior by virtue of their very belief in their own political identities — which identity is tied to an ideology that, manifested politically, privileges governmental theft, sanctioned inequality as a function of tribal identity, and a giant foundational question beg: namely, that moral superiority comes from being on the left, so therefore being on the left means you can really do no fundamental moral wrong...

Progressivism (that is, the leftist political home to philosphical anti-foundationalism), as Fish sees it, is the “non-formal” — that is, I suppose, situationally free-floating — antidote to restrictive “conservative” or classically liberal universalism*. That that restrictive conservative/classical liberal universalism is, as we know from the Declaration and Constitution, the foundation upon which this country was imagined and later framed, well, that’s irrelevant...

“Progressivism” is, as Fish evinces — and as I’ve spent years on protein wisdom demonstrating through my various discussions of identity politics and language — a belief system that, once its kernel assumptions are adopted, leads fundamentally and inexorably to tyranny...Tyranny and authoritarianism — when lorded over by the “liberal” — is, by virtue of the adopted morality of those running it, both moral and good...

And it is because of this — the progressives’ fidelity to a belief system that is fundamentally at odds with the idea of equality of the individual before the law — that I’ve said time and time again that modern progressivism / “liberalism” is nothing like the classical liberalism upon which this country was founded, and is in fact antithetical and hostile to the very notion of individual autonomy, and a foundational “fairness” that comes about as a result of a system of law that seeks to create an even playing field. That is, it is in a very real and strict sense un-American. [I have said in my life on more than one occasion, "they" are the enemy and wish they'd move to Sweden or cuba]...

Progressivism cares not about fairness or equality in the sense those words are used under a political paradigm that adheres to classical liberalism; instead, it seeks to redefine “fairness” and “equality” (and “tolerance”) as based on the outcomes it desires, a deconstructive procedure it then justifies by tying those outcomes to its own self-serving descriptions of what comes to count as moral. It is circular reasoning made perfect. Might makes right. The ends justify the means.


See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=38457#sthash.3zFeo4ik.dpuf

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 4:54:58 PM   
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A one-party majority? That's what every party wants...Democrat or Republican. And that's not a dictatorship

Then you ought to be able to post a link to suport that position just as dc did.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 5:01:34 PM   
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absolutely love this:

"Progressivism and the authoritarian impulse"

quote:

Fish’s [you'll have to go to the link for the background] single standard, distilled and properly understood, is that self-styled liberals are (they’ll claim) morally superior by virtue of their very belief in their own political identities — which identity is tied to an ideology that, manifested politically, privileges governmental theft, sanctioned inequality as a function of tribal identity, and a giant foundational question beg: namely, that moral superiority comes from being on the left, so therefore being on the left means you can really do no fundamental moral wrong...

Progressivism (that is, the leftist political home to philosphical anti-foundationalism), as Fish sees it, is the “non-formal” — that is, I suppose, situationally free-floating — antidote to restrictive “conservative” or classically liberal universalism*. That that restrictive conservative/classical liberal universalism is, as we know from the Declaration and Constitution, the foundation upon which this country was imagined and later framed, well, that’s irrelevant...

“Progressivism” is, as Fish evinces — and as I’ve spent years on protein wisdom demonstrating through my various discussions of identity politics and language — a belief system that, once its kernel assumptions are adopted, leads fundamentally and inexorably to tyranny...Tyranny and authoritarianism — when lorded over by the “liberal” — is, by virtue of the adopted morality of those running it, both moral and good...

And it is because of this — the progressives’ fidelity to a belief system that is fundamentally at odds with the idea of equality of the individual before the law — that I’ve said time and time again that modern progressivism / “liberalism” is nothing like the classical liberalism upon which this country was founded, and is in fact antithetical and hostile to the very notion of individual autonomy, and a foundational “fairness” that comes about as a result of a system of law that seeks to create an even playing field. That is, it is in a very real and strict sense un-American. [I have said in my life on more than one occasion, "they" are the enemy and wish they'd move to Sweden or cuba]...

Progressivism cares not about fairness or equality in the sense those words are used under a political paradigm that adheres to classical liberalism; instead, it seeks to redefine “fairness” and “equality” (and “tolerance”) as based on the outcomes it desires, a deconstructive procedure it then justifies by tying those outcomes to its own self-serving descriptions of what comes to count as moral. It is circular reasoning made perfect. Might makes right. The ends justify the means.


See more at: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=38457#sthash.3zFeo4ik.dpuf


Tell you guys what, CreativeDom and bounty, I am reading this while doing something else but will post on how it is the right that assesses itself the basis of such an argument by defining or redefining liberalism/progressivism to suit [that] argument against it and...create the so-called 'enemy.'

That [it] renders the above such unmitigated bullshit and the modern conservatism's politically scientific strawman, as to inspire me to do a whole OP on the subject of progressivism/liberlaism/conservatism. But I am involved right now and because it will take a lot of words. See you guys on the morrow.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 5:02:13 PM   
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And it is because of this — the progressives’ fidelity to a belief system that is fundamentally at odds with the idea of equality of the individual before the law — that I’ve said time and time again that modern progressivism / “liberalism” is nothing like the classical liberalism upon which this country was founded, and is in fact antithetical and hostile to the very notion of individual autonomy, and a foundational “fairness” that comes about as a result of a system of law that seeks to create an even playing field.

The fellow you have quoted does not seem to be aware that this country was founded on inequality before the law. Obviously you and he are unaware that non white and non male persons in this country were disinfranchised by law.
In short have you ever read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade?

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 5:41:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.
Bring forth the proof...something that someone on the right said that speaks directly or even somewhat indirectly to that person wanting to be a dictator.


Here is W The only specific reference I've yet to find. BUT.....

The formation of the Federal Reserve and it's financial control, even Wilson's election...all engineered and financed by the right wing. The actual conspiracy to enact a military coup against FDR in 1933 using Gen. Smedely Butler as their commander, was wholly from the right.

Freedoms are often suppressed and opponents are sometimes murdered. There are elements of paranoia and fear, generally ultimately a police state...where the US is slowly going now. Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners.

Examples include: Pinochet regime in Chile, Montt in Guatemala, Hitler and Nazi Germany. Leninist/Stalinist Russia, The rise of which and attainment of political and economic power along with it...all financed by western bankers and industrial elites on the right.

Nationalist socialism and communist socialism being only political cover to usurp [it] and empower the elites, their oligarchs and politicians from the right. The Apartheid regime in South Africa is another.

Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners. Chavez, a man who was jailed for an attempted coup and his rise was through the democratic process ('man of the people' cover) but once in power, reflected the same traits as those above.



im sorry, this is an absolute joke---almost in its entirety, its a verbatim plagiarizing from a yahoo questions page for goodness sake, and from multiple people no less:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071011083124AAd7JeX


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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/15/2015 6:24:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

i think its because of this:

"inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/189984/inside-every-liberal-totalitarian-screaming-get-frontpagemagcom

that said, as I kinda hinted at in my first reply I think---I wonder how genuinely Obama actually believes that.

Yet in all of my years and that's too many to count, it has been only those on the right that have said they'd like a dictatorship, as long as...I am the dictator. W merely being the last one.
Bring forth the proof...something that someone on the right said that speaks directly or even somewhat indirectly to that person wanting to be a dictator.


Here is W The only specific reference I've yet to find. BUT.....

The formation of the Federal Reserve and it's financial control, even Wilson's election...all engineered and financed by the right wing. The actual conspiracy to enact a military coup against FDR in 1933 using Gen. Smedely Butler as their commander, was wholly from the right.

Freedoms are often suppressed and opponents are sometimes murdered. There are elements of paranoia and fear, generally ultimately a police state...where the US is slowly going now. Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners.

Examples include: Pinochet regime in Chile, Montt in Guatemala, Hitler and Nazi Germany. Leninist/Stalinist Russia, The rise of which and attainment of political and economic power along with it...all financed by western bankers and industrial elites on the right.

Nationalist socialism and communist socialism being only political cover to usurp [it] and empower the elites, their oligarchs and politicians from the right. The Apartheid regime in South Africa is another.

Every dictatorship has been from the right...in the business/political interest of the financial powers and their right wing partners. Chavez, a man who was jailed for an attempted coup and his rise was through the democratic process ('man of the people' cover) but once in power, reflected the same traits as those above.



im sorry, this is an absolute joke---almost in its entirety, its a verbatim plagiarizing from a yahoo questions page for goodness sake, and from multiple people no less:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071011083124AAd7JeX


So the fuck what ?

Only a little of it is from yahoo answer page and only added Chile and SA. Why is it so many including you here...go after the messenger and not the message ? Now that's a joke.

I don't care where it comes from and quite frankly, I hate to type so anytime and I mean anytime I can copy & paste even a little I will plus I left off much of what I wrote, so I do it and the above is still modified.

And didn't you just give us word for word some guy named Fish and whose message was bullshit.

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RE: Intetesting Take From Obama - 11/16/2015 8:36:48 AM   
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A one-party majority? That's what every party wants...Democrat or Republican. And that's not a dictatorship

Then you ought to be able to post a link to suport that position just as dc did.
This from the man who sits and makes remarks from on the sidelines?

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