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ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 4:57:33 AM   
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http://www.kpho.com/story/30522357/isis-unable-to-attack-us-officials-say

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ISIS unable to attack US, officials say

The Obama administration is trying to calm fears of an ISIS attack in the United States like the one in Paris on Friday.

Officials say ISIS would like to launch similar attacks on U.S. soil, but their ability to do so is limited.

Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said a key difference is that thousands of fighters returned to Europe after going to Syria.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said earlier this year that the number being tracked in the U.S. is around 40. Clapper also said he wasn't aware of any that had been involved in terror plots since returning to the U.S.

The success of ISIS in America has come mostly from recruiting and motivating sympathizers online, according to officials.


Seriously?
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 5:06:52 AM   
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/10/21/141590282/obama-to-address-iraq-troop-withdrawal

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October 21, 2011

President Obama announced today that the war in Iraq was over.

"After nearly nine years, the long war in Iraq will come to an end by the end of this year," the president said. President Obama said he talked to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki earlier today and they were both in complete agreement about how to proceed. Obama said that "as promised" by the end of the year all troops will withdraw from the country.

He said that this means the relationship between Iraq and the United States will now be a normal one "between sovereign nations. An equal partnership based on mutual interests and mutual respect."

He added: "Our troops in Iraq will definitely be home for the holidays."


If the War in Iraq is over why do we have troops there and are droping bombs on their turf and under what authority?

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 7:03:59 AM   
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your "information is a tiny bit lacking. Try going to the original reporting site..
this is the FULL info from CNN regarding rhodes and clapper.
The comments from Brennan came the day after members of the President's national security team said that while ISIS certainly has the ambition to launch similar attacks on U.S. shores, the capability is not great..

Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes told reporters that one big difference between the situation in Europe and that in the U.S. is that "thousands" of fighters have traveled to Syria and then returned to Europe. The number being tracked in America is far smaller -- around 40, according to an estimate by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper earlier this year.

Clapper added that not all of those ISIS joiners were necessarily fighting -- some might have served other roles for the terrorist group, such as first aid -- and he knew of no terrorist plots that any of those returning have been involved in once back in the U.S.

Rhodes said that ISIS has found more utility in trying to recruit or motivate sympathizers in America online from abroad.

Obam adviser Ben Rhodes on Paris attacks

Obam adviser Ben Rhodes on Paris attacks 07:09
'READ: ISIS exploits social media to make inroads in U.S.

A top FBI counterterrorism official told Congress this year that "hundreds, maybe thousands" of people in the U.S. follow ISIS online. And this year alone, at least 49 alleged ISIS "supporters" in America have been charged with related crimes. The largest number of those were in New York.

An ISIS-inspired plot in Garland, Texas, in May, in which two men with body armor and assault rifles opened fire outside an art contest in which participants drew pictures of the prophet Mohammed, was thwarted by a security officer who shot and killed both suspects.

The FBI had been watching one of the suspects' online activity referencing the contest, and had warned police in Garland hours before the attack, though officials didn't know he was planning an attack, and weren't closely monitoring his physical whereabouts.

Following that attack, intelligence officials have said they are now doing more monitoring of "hundreds" of suspected ISIS supporters.

Rhodes emphasized Sunday there is currently "no specific, credible threat" of an attack being planned in the U.S., but vigilance among law enforcement is high.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/15/politics/isis-us-threat-paris-attacks/index.html

Read the headline about CIA director Brennan saying that
ISIS probably has plans for more attacks "in the pipeline,"
watch the video...

And people wonder why research into the bug currently up your ass is important
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Regarding your second post... 2011 is a bloody long time ago with all the changes in ISIS and ISIL.





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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 7:57:45 AM   
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Lucy I don't deny that the situation in Iraq and Syria has changed since 2011. My question is why are we in there if the 2001 authorization was terminted by POTUS. Additionally, With the borders as porous as they are, how can they say that we can't come under attack? This was reported by CBS based upon what was said on CNN. I don't deny the number of people that have been and returned, but who is to stop them from infiltrating across the border. And as demonstrated in 9/11 and Paris both, we don't need large numbers to come up with this type of attack.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 8:02:24 AM   
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http://www.kpho.com/story/30522357/isis-unable-to-attack-us-officials-say

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ISIS unable to attack US, officials say

The Obama administration is trying to calm fears of an ISIS attack in the United States like the one in Paris on Friday.

Officials say ISIS would like to launch similar attacks on U.S. soil, but their ability to do so is limited.

Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said a key difference is that thousands of fighters returned to Europe after going to Syria.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said earlier this year that the number being tracked in the U.S. is around 40. Clapper also said he wasn't aware of any that had been involved in terror plots since returning to the U.S.

The success of ISIS in America has come mostly from recruiting and motivating sympathizers online, according to officials.


Seriously?

well.. the US has a secret weapon against terrorism.. The Donald!!! apparently he is "uniquely qualified" and "has an "instinct" for sensing threats"... The US is safe now.. no need to worry at all.. you can sleep at night now..

http://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-consider-closing-certain-mosques-153335596--election.html#

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 8:08:27 AM   
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Lucy I don't deny that the situation in Iraq and Syria has changed since 2011. My question is why are we in there if the 2001 authorization was terminted by POTUS. Additionally, With the borders as porous as they are, how can they say that we can't come under attack? This was reported by CBS based upon what was said on CNN. I don't deny the number of people that have been and returned, but who is to stop them from infiltrating across the border. And as demonstrated in 9/11 and Paris both, we don't need large numbers to come up with this type of attack.

It wasnt a very good reporting by CBS in actual fact it was bloody shitty reporting.
But you bought it...
without checking it out.



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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 10:28:57 PM   
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http://www.kpho.com/story/30522357/isis-unable-to-attack-us-officials-say

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ISIS unable to attack US, officials say

The Obama administration is trying to calm fears of an ISIS attack in the United States like the one in Paris on Friday.

Officials say ISIS would like to launch similar attacks on U.S. soil, but their ability to do so is limited.

Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said a key difference is that thousands of fighters returned to Europe after going to Syria.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said earlier this year that the number being tracked in the U.S. is around 40. Clapper also said he wasn't aware of any that had been involved in terror plots since returning to the U.S.

The success of ISIS in America has come mostly from recruiting and motivating sympathizers online, according to officials.



Seriously?



Seriously lucy A guys makes a one word question and that is challenged. Is the Left so paranoid that their own media outlets aren't subject to question? Are you so short sighted that questioning the left's media outlet now reason for attack? One word. Just one, formulated as a question. Not a comment of acceptance or non-acceptance, but a question? Must we blindly follow whatever the media says because and not questioning what is going on?


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Lucy I don't deny that the situation in Iraq and Syria has changed since 2011. My question is why are we in there if the 2001 authorization was terminated by POTUS. Additionally, With the borders as porous as they are, how can they say that we can't come under attack? This was reported by CBS based upon what was said on CNN. I don't deny the number of people that have been and returned, but who is to stop them from infiltrating across the border. And as demonstrated in 9/11 and Paris both, we don't need large numbers to come up with this type of attack.

It wasn’t a very good reporting by CBS in actual fact it was bloody shitty reporting.
But you bought it...
without checking it out.




And please explain how asking a one word question is buying into the story? I questioned the story. I question what CNN says. I question the NSA. I question the whole media. I question POTUS. I question just about everything. I am not willing to accept less from myself or anyone else. It is OK to disagree. It is OK to voice one’s opinion. It is OK but you have made a statement of fact “you bought it...” Now prove how a one word question is buying it please.

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/10/21/141590282/obama-to-address-iraq-troop-withdrawal

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October 21, 2011

President Obama announced today that the war in Iraq was over.

"After nearly nine years, the long war in Iraq will come to an end by the end of this year," the president said. President Obama said he talked to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki earlier today and they were both in complete agreement about how to proceed. Obama said that "as promised" by the end of the year all troops will withdraw from the country.

He said that this means the relationship between Iraq and the United States will now be a normal one "between sovereign nations. An equal partnership based on mutual interests and mutual respect."

He added: "Our troops in Iraq will definitely be home for the holidays."


If the War in Iraq is over why do we have troops there and are droping bombs on their turf and under what authority?



And nothing from you about the second part of the thread (I put them in separate comments for a reason - they are separately related) If the War in Iraq is over then under what authority are we fighting and sending troops to Iraq. If you say the 2001 authorization, that was ended by Obama in 2011. if you say it wasn't then based upon that we could invade Canada under the Declaraton of War issued for the War of 1812 (at least theoretically). Once a war is over and we have withdrawn, unless I am mistaken someplace in international law, the authorization to conduct that war expires. Now if the contention of the law is the eradication of terrorists worldwide (not sure who gets to define terrorist if it isn’t the current POTUS) then why aren’t we bombing every country in the world that has a cell of something or another and cutting our ability to defend ourselves when we piss off the host country? Instead we have pretty much opened our borders, not in a legal sense, but in a more practical sense, to allowing those same terrorists into the US under the guise of looking for a better way of life. Some I am sure are. For whatever reason they choose not to follow the law (the ones that closed our borders to all except those that go through the process). Some may well be here for more nefarious reasons. But, we don’t secure the border so we can’t vet them and yet there are those of us who think we should reward them with being allowed to stay. And in the mean time, while going through some vetting if found we should allow them to wonder our streets without restriction. And this appears to basically and overly simplified the way it appears.

It also appears that questioning authority (POTUS, Administration, Media, Free Thought, God, The Winds Willing, Science, etc) is grounds for name calling, put downs, and other such stuff by mainly those of the tolerant left. That in itself is terrorism, at least in my opinion, because it seeks to prevent the very foundation of our government.

I, as you have opinions. I ask questions. I express my opinions. I am allowed my questions and opinions. Please address them. Not what you seem but the simple words. But tolerance by attack and ignoring the question isn’t tolerance and is non-productive in a debate I believe.


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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/17/2015 11:59:14 PM   
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I watched both speeches (Obama and Hollande) and I couldn't help thinking: "Dayum! I know we couldn't avoid a socialist president in this country because of all the low-information types, just trying to vote themselves more shit, but why couldn't we have gotten a socialist more like the French did?"

Obama was angrier about people questioning his desire to let 10,000 of his Muslim brethren into our country than he was about the fact that a bunch of his Muslim brethren have declared war on us.



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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 12:28:49 AM   
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"his Muslim brethren"

Are you truly an idiot or just playing one in the forums?

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 12:50:31 AM   
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My best friend who is an American Lib, ironically, says, Obama has a plan to deal with ISIS, but his certainly not gonna announce to the media exactly what he is going to do to tackle the enemy, like what the Cons are demanding from him all the time!

And I got to give my friend that. As the Cons has blasted Obama in the past for being too transparent to the media about what he was gonna do to deal with terror and the enemies are prepared for him.

Obama did take down Osama by NOT telling the media anything, until after capture.

So let's hope he indeed has a great plan to keep America safe.

Because to be honest, I find his current nonchalance towards the ISIS attack in France, rather interesting, especially when I bet his shitting in his pants, and on the background, making sure, AT ALL COST, his term cannot end with another terrorist attack to US. That would like be such a smear on his time as President, and also, guarantee the Republicans the winning ticket for next term.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 6:49:19 AM   
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/30/5-times-president-obama-said-there-would-be-no-ground-troops-or-no-combat-mission-in-syria/

There will be no boots on the ground? You put about 3000 troops in Iraq and 50 in Syria and there are boots on the ground. The distinction between combat and mission is a distinction without a difference. Yet there was combat in Iraq in Feb 2015.

I wonder what the world thinks of this distinction? Getting shot at is getting shot at the last I knew.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:15:50 AM   
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My best friend who is an American Lib,

Of course your best friend is an amerikan llib

Obama did take down Osama by NOT telling the media anything, until after capture.


He did not capture him he snuffed him.

So let's hope he indeed has a great plan to keep America safe.

From who?

Because to be honest,

It is always nice to try something new.

I find his current nonchalance towards the ISIS attack in France, rather interesting, especially when I bet his shitting in his pants,

That would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.



and on the background, making sure, AT ALL COST, his term cannot end with another terrorist attack to US. That would like be such a smear on his time as President, and also, guarantee the Republicans the winning ticket for next term.


You seem pretty intent on a republicrat victory with it's obvious connotation that you are hoping for a terrorist attack durring his administration. Your hatred for my country and your love for your party seems pretty clear.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:17:00 AM   
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if her best friend was an american lib, she would be more informed


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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:22:40 AM   
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I watched both speeches (Obama and Hollande) and I couldn't help thinking: "Dayum! I know we couldn't avoid a socialist president in this country because of all the low-information types, just trying to vote themselves more shit, but why couldn't we have gotten a socialist more like the French did?"

Obama was angrier about people questioning his desire to let 10,000 of his Muslim brethren into our country than he was about the fact that a bunch of his Muslim brethren have declared war on us.



Ah yes the christian sycophant of jerimiah wright, secret muslim, usurper from kenya is a socialist like all of those other muslim in iraq and pakistan as vetted by the high information voters like yourself still managed to get appointed. Whodathunkit?

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:25:25 AM   
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blah blah blah



You are the one who put up bullshit as your post, not me.
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Is the Left so paranoid that their own media outlets aren't subject to question?

NO, I will question LW media outlets, I didnt care that it was a CBS outlet, I didnt care that it came from CNN< I merely showed you what a shitty article it was and pointed you to the ORIGINAL article and mentioned that you believe the distortion. BTW I dont speak for the left, I speak for myself, ONLY, but nice tarring with the brush, and why I will only RESPOND to your bullshit and not blame anyone else or the RIGHT.

You post thread after thread using bullshit links and sources, but its everybody elses fault but yours.


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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:42:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


blah blah blah



You are the one who put up bullshit as your post, not me.
quote:

Is the Left so paranoid that their own media outlets aren't subject to question?

NO, I will question LW media outlets, I didnt care that it was a CBS outlet, I didnt care that it came from CNN< I merely showed you what a shitty article it was and pointed you to the ORIGINAL article and mentioned that you believe the distortion. BTW I dont speak for the left, I speak for myself, ONLY, but nice tarring with the brush, and why I will only RESPOND to your bullshit and not blame anyone else or the RIGHT.

You post thread after thread using bullshit links and sources, but its everybody elses fault but yours.


I post threads to stimulate thought. You question my sources. Exactly which ones tell all the truth and only the truth repored in a fair and unbiased manner in your opinion. And what is the issue with me questioning things? You really didn't answer that one. Please explain. I am courious as to why I questioned something that it is a problem with you. I also request that you define exactly which links are not used by others that only I would use that are such bullshit. I do use mainly US links, but I also use those of other countries.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 7:44:18 AM   
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 8:48:19 AM   
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Obama was angrier about people questioning his desire to let 10,000 of his Muslim brethren into our country than he was about the fact that a bunch of his Muslim brethren have declared war on us.

According to an article in the local newspaper I read this am, only 2% of refugees are males of fighting age, most are children and women, families.. and it takes them 18-24 months to get vetted and approved for entry to the US, Syrian refugees take about 3 years to be approved.. 3 years of sitting in some shithole refugee camp answering questions, jumping thru hoops and waiting.. no guarantee of being accepted at the end of it either..

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 8:51:44 AM   
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as all of the "terrorists" have been EU citizens, it puts lie to the refugee bullshit.
The syrian passport reported earlier this week appears by some accounts to have been planted.


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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 9:32:49 AM   
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how can they say that we can't come under attack


How did limited turn into can't?...Arizona TV perhaps

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