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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 10:02:12 AM   
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http://www.kpho.com/story/30522357/isis-unable-to-attack-us-officials-say

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ISIS unable to attack US, officials say

The Obama administration is trying to calm fears of an ISIS attack in the United States like the one in Paris on Friday.

Officials say ISIS would like to launch similar attacks on U.S. soil, but their ability to do so is limited.

Deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said a key difference is that thousands of fighters returned to Europe after going to Syria.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said earlier this year that the number being tracked in the U.S. is around 40. Clapper also said he wasn't aware of any that had been involved in terror plots since returning to the U.S.

The success of ISIS in America has come mostly from recruiting and motivating sympathizers online, according to officials.


Seriously?


Its interesting that Obama isn't using this opportunity to scare the shit out of your country. Our PM is doing the opposite and using this atrocity to manipulate the population of Britain into accepting military deployment and surrender more of its civil liberties (implementing more snooping laws). He has told us all that we are in VERY real danger. Truth is, we are in more danger once we use military deployment but not before.

I'm impressed that the American government isn't doing this too.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 10:11:38 AM   
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Cruz to introduce bill to bar Syrian refugees
By Katie Zezima November 16

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz speaks during the CNBC presidential debate in Boulder, Colo., on Oct. 28, 2015. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)
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CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Sen. Ted Cruz, who has said that the United States should not allow Syrian Muslim refugees into the country but should provide safe haven to fleeing Christians, plans to introduce legislation that would bar Syrian refugees from entering the country.

Cruz (R-Tex.) said after a campaign event here that the legislation is still being drafted and wouldn't offer details of exactly what it would say. According to reports, Cruz told CNN that it would bar Syrian Muslim refugees from entering the United States.

Cruz has said numerous times in the past few days that Muslim refugees from Syria should be resettled in majority Muslim countries in the Middle East while Christian migrants should be allowed to enter the United States.

"There is no meaningful risk of Christians committing acts of terror. If there were a group of radical Christians pledging to murder anyone who had a different religious view than they, we would have a different national security situation," Cruz said Sunday in Myrtle Beach, S.C.

Cruz has said it is "nothing short of lunacy" to allow Syrian Muslim refugees into the country, particularly after Friday's Paris attacks.

President Obama said in response to Cruz and others Monday it is "shameful" to bar refugees based on religion.

"That's not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion," Obama said.



Cruz responded on CNN Monday.

"It's not surprising that Obama is attacking me personally," the Texas senator and 2016 Republican presidential candidate told CNN's Dana Bash. "I'll tell you what's shameful is that the president after seven years still refuses to utter the words radical Islamic terrorism [and] claims that somehow [it's] a religious test. [It's] not that at all. It is understanding the nature of the evil we face."


The Texas Republican often mentions how his father fled Cuba for the United States as a young man. Cruz was asked on CNN Monday how he could bar refugees from the United States given his father's story.

"If my father were part of a theocratic and political movement like radical Islam that promotes murdering anyone who doesn't share your extreme faith or forcibly converting them, it would make perfect sense not to let someone in who a embraces political philosophy and theology that says murder the infidels," Cruz said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/16/cruz-to-introduce-bill-to-bar-syrian-refugees/

THe guy has the inside straight on lunacy thats for sure, he knows it intimately.
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 10:13:41 AM   
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 10:31:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		well apparently there will not be a bill requiring them to take a religious test....according to paul ryan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-syrian-refugees_564cb1f9e4b00b7997f878f3?utm_hp_ref=politics

WASHINGTON -- Legislation to restrict the flow of Syrian refugees into the United States will not include a religious test, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said on Wednesday.

After the Friday terrorist attacks in Paris, which left 129 people dead, some Republicans have called for the U.S. to accept only Christian refugees fleeing Syria, not Muslims. The Islamic State took credit for the assault, and a Syrian passport was also found near the body of one of the suicide bombers.

In response, the House will take up legislation this week that will effectively "pause" the Syrian refugee program. But "I will also point out that we will not have a religious test, only a security test," Ryan said of the bill in one of his first speeches as speaker on the House floor.

The plan introduced by Republicans would mandate that officials at the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the director of National Intelligence certify to Congress that each Syrian or Iraqi refugee admitted is not a threat to security. The bill also stipulates that the FBI would need to certify that each refugee admitted received a background check and was determined to not be a threat. Finally, the bill would require monthly reports on refugee certifications to Congress from the DHS inspector general.

"People understand the plight of those fleeing the Middle East," Ryan said. "But they also want basic assurances for the safety of this country."

"It would mean a pause in the program until we can be certain beyond any doubt that those coming here are not a threat," he continued. "And I don’t think it’s asking too much."

Despite increased scrutiny from members of Congress, the administration has stuck by its plan to admit 10,000 Syrian refugees this fiscal year.

While in Manila on Tuesday, President Barack Obama scolded the GOP for its anti-refugee rhetoric, calling the idea of only allowing Christian refugees into the U.S. "offensive."

The White House has tried to reassure lawmakers and governors in recent days that its screening process for refugees is rigorous and extensive.

oh and Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/18/us-france-shooting-congress-religion-idUSKCN0T72JS20151118#AB5wfA4WAqHeTPRZ.97

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 11:46:12 AM   
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 12:16:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		think france would like to re-think the process whereby that one particular fellow who participated in paris got in?

maybe the two of you who live in liberal la la land where no one wants to harm America can actually critique the positions and arguments that cruz and ryan are making as opposed to name calling and potty mouthing?

and mnottertail, can I suggest a thesaurus for you? if there is a vulgar version, I suspect "nutsucker" might be in it---you know, improve your vocabulary some?


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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 12:49:22 PM   
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"In 18 Months, 66 Arrested in US for ISIS-Related Activities"

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Nearly 70 people have been charged with ISIS-related terror plots in the United States over the last 18 months — reportedly including a handful of refugees.

...the 66 alleged terror plotters include a small number of immigrants, along with Americans who were allegedly reeled into ISIS via its online propaganda.

the immigrants include:

•Bosnian refugees who allegedly sent money and military equipment to extremist groups in Syria including ISIS and the al-Qaida-affiliated al-Nusra Front. According to court documents, six individuals allegedly conspired via phone, Facebook and email using innocuous code words, and used PayPal and Western Union to send funds to the groups. Three of the six had become naturalized U.S. citizens while three were either held refugee or legal resident status, according to the Daily Mail.

•Minnesota men from Somalia who allegedly conspired or tried to provide material support to foreign terrorists — one of whom was born at a refugee camp in Kenya and arrived in the United States as a 9-year-old child, according to the Daily Mail.

[there is] an outcry from some governors, GOP lawmakers, and presidential candidates over an Obama administration plan to allow refugees from Syria into the country,

Others who've been rounded up for alleged links to ISIS over the past year-and-a-half include:

•Air Force veteran Tairod Nathan Webster Pugh, who allegedly tried to travel to Syria to fight with ISIS militants.

•Illinois cousins Jonas and Hasan Edmonds, a National Guard soldier, who allegedly plotted a Charlie Hebdo-style raid on the Illinois National Guard Armory.

•Yemeni-born Mufid Elfgeeh, a naturalized U.S. who owned a food shop in Rochester, N.Y., and in 2014 allegedly became one of the first people on American soil to be arrested and accused of being a recruiter for ISIS.

Related Stories:
•Schumer Joins Republicans Questioning Obama's Refugee Plan [note schumer is a liberal democrat---maybe he's secretly an evil, bigoted, "islamophobic," crazy republican?)

•US Accepts Less Than 3 Percent Christian Refugees, 96 Percent Muslim

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/isis-isil-terrorists-arrests/2015/11/18/id/702717/


last night I heard chris Christie say that the federal government has been placing refugees in states, through non governmental organizations, and does not let the state governments know they've done it.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 12:49:49 PM   
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France is still committed to take refugees if you dont read anything but your rw bullshit
No one said, no one wants to hurt you...you've got plenty of people killing your citizens from the inside, so that's your bias showing. With the apocalyptic warriors and cruz the muslim hunter... why shouldn't I be angry and demonstrate it. you want to silence my right to an opinion? no, you wouldn't do that. would you.

THat you haven't even responded with either fact or in your case links showing our links are fiction, I think you have no room to talk coming on here and "insulting" Me personally. while claiming the high ground.

hypocrisy, thy name is bounty44



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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 1:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

think france would like to re-think the process whereby that one particular fellow who participated in paris got in?

maybe the two of you who live in liberal la la land where no one wants to harm America can actually critique the positions and arguments that cruz and ryan are making as opposed to name calling and potty mouthing?

and mnottertail, can I suggest a thesaurus for you? if there is a vulgar version, I suspect "nutsucker" might be in it---you know, improve your vocabulary some?



Actually for those in nutsucker land, it turns out that France is taking 30,000 more refugees. You neednt suggest a thesaurus, you are far below me in intellect and vocabulary.

Cruz is a refugee and his father a terrorist.
Ryan is a fiscal disaster with a blown headpipe, a real cretin.

Both are nutsuckers.


There were hundreds of nutsucker terrorists cells in the Cliven Bundy terror plot against the American Citizenry.

There is more, of course. But those who live in nutsucker la la land where the modus operandi is to terrorize and destroy America have no desire to see its citizenry safe. Hell, nutsuckers throwing veterans into the streets and insuring more suicides than were killed in their propaganda war.

75% of ISILs weapons came from the United States. They came from nutsuckers who ran an inept war in Iraq, nutsuckers did this all in order to destroy America.

Hell, nutsuckers couldnt even prevent the United States from owning Texas during Jade Helm 15. Nugent was still shitting his nutsucker pants.

But it seems nutsuckers are still gulping up their own bad intel, and are now going to tell us how to keep America safe, the nutsuckers have no intention of resting on their laurels.

Yeah, no.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:36:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turkey arrests 8 ISIS suspects posing as … Syrian refugees

nah, that could never happen here...

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:38:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

if her best friend was an american lib, she would be more informed



Just because my best friend is Left leaning, doesn't mean we talk about politics when we are together all day. That's usually the last thing we talk about. And his Californian, blue state right? How often do you guys hang out with your best friend and talk nothing but politics? I bet almost 99% of the time, no political issues comes out at all. His rooting for Clinton, I am rooting for Trump, and it's still cool.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:40:32 PM   
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Turkey arrests 8 ISIS suspects posing as … Syrian refugees

nah, that could never happen here...



Yeah, we dont arrest them. And it comes from hot air. try masturbatingforfeeblemindednutsuckerpropaganda.com or something a little more credible.



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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:46:46 PM   
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He did not capture him he snuffed him.

Dude, you're being retarded now. Osama was captured, dead or alive. Even if his captured dead, his still captured! That's how I view it! They got hold of his body and disposed of it! It doesn't HAVE to be alive!

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That would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.-
I watched his irritated and dispassionate speech about how he feels about the threat of ISIS to the US, after what happened to France, and was more interested in continuing to plead for sympathy to the plight of Syrian victims. Anyway, if you support opening your country to Syrians, then, good for you. Doesn't bother me, I don't live there.

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You seem pretty intent on a republicrat victory with it's obvious connotation that you are hoping for a terrorist attack durring his administration. Your hatred for my country and your love for your party seems pretty clear.

I am 99% certain that if Obama allows another terrorist attack on US soil, before the end of his term, he will ensure Republican victory in the elections. You disagree with this? I can't imagine the country trusting Clinton or Bernie to deal with another American terrorist attack.

I am simply saying, it would be in Obama best interest to do his utmost best to prevent this from happening, that's why I agree with my Lib Friend that Obama is hiding something behind, that he actually got it together. Hey, that's praise for Obama.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:53:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Bloomberg Poll: Most Americans Oppose Syrian Refugee Resettlement"

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Americans agree with Republican presidential candidates on refugees...

Most Americans want the U.S. to stop letting in Syrian refugees amid fears of terrorist infiltrations after the Paris attacks, siding with Republican presidential candidates, governors, and lawmakers who want to freeze the Obama administration’s resettlement program.

Fifty-three percent of U.S. adults in the survey, conducted in the days immediately following the attacks, say the nation should not continue a program to resettle up to 10,000 Syrian refugees. Just 28 percent would keep the program with the screening process as it now exists, while 11 percent said they would favor a limited program to accept only Syrian Christians while excluding Muslims, a proposal Obama has dismissed as “shameful” and un-American.


so ~64% are saying no way, or yes but with heavy qualifications.

I understand the first question was: are you an asswiping, nutsucking, shitbreathing, felcher? and if the person answered yes, then they got to move on to the next question, so that could account for the high numbers.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-11-18/bloomberg-poll-most-americans-oppose-syrian-refugee-resettlement?cmpid=wsdemand



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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 2:59:18 PM   
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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 4:25:33 PM   
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It seems that morons run in pairs.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 4:30:32 PM   
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He did not capture him he snuffed him.

Dude, you're being retarded now. Osama was captured, dead or alive. Even if his captured dead, his still captured! That's how I view it! They got hold of his body and disposed of it! It doesn't HAVE to be alive!


Perhaps you could find a grown up to read the big words to you and explane what they mean.

That would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion and nothing more.


I watched his irritated and dispassionate speech about how he feels about the threat of ISIS to the US, after what happened to France, and was more interested in continuing to plead for sympathy to the plight of Syrian victims. Anyway, if you support opening your country to Syrians, then, good for you. Doesn't bother me, I don't live there.

You certainly don't live in singapore either

You seem pretty intent on a republicrat victory with it's obvious connotation that you are hoping for a terrorist attack durring his administration. Your hatred for my country and your love for your party seems pretty clear.


I am 99% certain that if Obama allows another terrorist attack on US soil, before the end of his term, he will ensure Republican victory in the elections. You disagree with this? I can't imagine the country trusting Clinton or Bernie to deal with another American terrorist attack.

Time will tell.

I am simply saying, it would be in Obama best interest to do his utmost best to prevent this from happening,

Omg what an uncanny grasp of the obvious.




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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 4:33:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		so ~64% are saying no way, or yes but with heavy qualifications.

Then that 64% can go to the polls and vote in someone who will change the constitution. Otherwise it is just so much rhetoric.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 4:56:01 PM   
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You certainly don't live in singapore either

You seem pretty intent on a republicrat victory with it's obvious connotation that you are hoping for a terrorist attack durring his administration. Your hatred for my country and your love for your party seems pretty clear.

On the internet, alot of Singaporeans online express hatred for our ruling party, but when it comes down to elections, 70% voted for the ruling party. So only 30% loud minority on the internet are bitching about our ruling party. Fact is, our ruling party is doing a great job! And our ruling party would be closer to the Republicans in terms of rule than the Democrats. By 2020, we would have 1 multi millionaire in our country for every 30 citizens. We have 80% home ownership. We are dedicated to eradicating poverty and making sure everybody can improve their lives and live well. People complain that we have one of the worst wealth gaps in the world, but we are talking multi-millions versus someone who makes 60k per annum. We don't have people living below poverty line. I think our country is doing a damn good job in making life good for everybody.

And we did this with ZERO socialism or welfare and achieve it in 50 years. If making sure every human in our country can live above poverty line is something that you think is detrimental to human well being, then, you got problems. US has millions below poverty line themselves. And lots of homeless too. They got alot of problems that haven't been solved for ages, doing the same old thing over and over again.

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Time will tell.


Yes it will. If no attacks happen, my lib friend is right and Obama has everything under control. IF an attack happen, republican Victory is assured. That's all I am saying. One thing that is for certainty, ISIS themselves have openly declared, US is next. They have openly told the West, they are coming for the US.

And they are using communication channels that are not detected by authorities. As Obama said, how do you stop people who wants to kill themselves to hurt others? As he said, it's a complex problem.

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RE: ISIS can't attack the US - 11/18/2015 5:04:51 PM   
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Thompson, if you get your ass down to Singapore, I will meet you for lunch. I dare you :).





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