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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/21/2015 2:15:58 PM   
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As i mentioned, he is still quite young. Is there a chance of these conditions spontaneously resolving themselves as he grows older and wiser? or are they likely to be an issue forever

You'll probably find he'll have this condition for life - or at least for a few decades.
It's not a condition that people usually 'grow out of'.

He will need a lot of counseling and he must continue with his meds - that is paramount.
Angelica is right, you are not his therapist or his parent; you can't fix him.
By all means support and care for him as best you can, but as others have said, it is not going to be easy.
Getting the right mental health care in the UK is going to be very difficult unless you get a lucky strike.
If he won't stay on his meds, it's going to be near impossible to cope with him later on.
IMHO, someone this badly off the rails is a lost cause and you're on a hiding to nothing.


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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/21/2015 2:18:22 PM   
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does anyone have any information or experiences on trying to do without meds in a relationship? what kind of consequences can be expected.




Delusions, paranoia, wild accusations, out bursts, etc. Just went through this with some friends. He went of his meds - started accusing her of cheating, emptying the banks accounts, ignored their business appointments, tried to remove her from their business, threatened to post naked photos of her on the internet, moved out of the house, went on a spending spree etc, etc...all quite publicly.

And you've already admitted that yours gets violent when off of his meds.

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Is there a chance of these conditions spontaneously resolving themselves as he grows older and wiser? or are they likely to be an issue forever
There is absolutely no chance of this spontaneously resolving itself. If he remains unwilling to take his medication and pursue counseling, he has no chance of living a normal life. He will just continuously repeat the cycle.

It's not going to get any better unless he's willing to put the effort into his own care.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/21/2015 2:22:51 PM   
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OP, you admit you're dating a depressed, unpredictable, violent, and possibly suicidal teen. And you admit you have no clue how to handle him and no background in psychiatry.
Get some professional help before you or he get seriously hurt or killed. It will be on your head if anything goes wrong, and something is going to go wrong. Asking for help for your situation on a kinky sex forum isn't prudent.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/21/2015 6:39:20 PM   
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Let me ask you something: would you be asking if he might outgrow or otherwise spontaneously recover if he had Type I Diabetes?

Bi-polar depression is a disease of the body.
His brain chemistry is off somehow.

There is treatment but not a cure.

It will not be enough for you to be committed to him and his getting better.
Believing in him is not enough.
Loving him is not enough.

He has to stay on medication and continue with therapy.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 1:30:33 AM   
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O., I may be wrong (not being an expert) but when I read your post it came into my mind:
could it be possible that he is trying to use you as a substitute replacement for his therapist(s)?



Yes, and parents too. i don't mind taking on a caretaker role though, but sometimes i don't know what to do


Just my feelings and my advice:
He is trying to find somebody to blame for his situation - you and his parents.
He is trying to put the responsibility for his condition on you.
You 'll turn into an excuse for his not getting better.
He is behaving like an angry child.


But he is the only person who can change his situation - by getting help, and participating in treatment. It is his own responsibility for himself and his getting better. He is the only one who can achieve that and who can accept the necessary help.


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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 4:34:39 AM   
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If he is not committed to getting well, then it will never happen,

It does not spontaneously disappear however ten plus years on the anti convulsants can show results similar to a stringent long term ketogenic diet.

Unfortunately he would not commit to that either. Non compliant patients like him are why some psychiatrists far prefer to work for groups, not private patients. because a prisoner cannot refuse the meds. And make no doubt, he will find himself in that population soon enough unless he wants to get well..

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 4:59:26 AM   
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hi guys, i've not responded much, been reading and processing. Some mixed sentiments here. but everyone seems to think, at least, that he should keep taking his meds, right?

does anyone have any information or experiences on trying to do without meds in a relationship? what kind of consequences can be expected.

i've told him to ask a doctor about getting mood stabilisers, he's working on that.


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Doctors that I've seen, seem more than willing to keep taking my cash.

So...
Thats a load of crap. Call him on it. Doctor's offices are businesses. Does it really make sense that they'd turn someone away?


I should mention here, we're british. the NHS is free, it's not a question of money or business.




That makes a lot more sense, the NHS isn't great when it comes to preventive treatment, if he's mainly seeing a GP, they tend to be fairly useless and don't like to refer patients to specialists due to funding issues, so you may want to go along with him and push for referrals, and I would recommend that you aren't just aiming for a psychologist but also an endocrinologist who works regularly with people who do have mental issues. You best chance is the nearest university clinic, read through who they have and what papers they are working on and have worked on. In a lot of cases the mental issues aren't the only issues but endocrine problems make them worse or can actually have an impact on the medication (i.e. the medication isn't absorbed properly), he might also want to push to have his Vitamin D and B12 levels checked, you can be "within range" (and the NHS ranges seem to be very very broad) but at the lower end of the range, that often causes massive depression, which of course would make all his other issues worse, but that's something you might not get on NHS, but it's well worth investing a few pounds and ordering D3 and B12 from a reputable retailer (wouldn't recommend the cheap stuff from TESCO or other chain stores as it's often really not good quality), it should kick in fairly quick, it's not a drug but if he gets better on that, he has a feeling of achievement which might just give him the boost he needs to stick with therapy.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 5:22:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Oneechan

hi guys, i've not responded much, been reading and processing. Some mixed sentiments here. but everyone seems to think, at least, that he should keep taking his meds, right?

does anyone have any information or experiences on trying to do without meds in a relationship? what kind of consequences can be expected.

i've told him to ask a doctor about getting mood stabilisers, he's working on that.


quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

Doctors that I've seen, seem more than willing to keep taking my cash.

So...
Thats a load of crap. Call him on it. Doctor's offices are businesses. Does it really make sense that they'd turn someone away?


I should mention here, we're british. the NHS is free, it's not a question of money or business.



I don't have any personal experience with someone not taking their meds but I have seen enough medical charts of people who did and ended up in the hospital to know it's not a good idea.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 5:54:59 AM   
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I have a full time, live in sub, we've known each other for a couple of months. Things did move a bit fast, but we're very well matched and lived close by, so it didn't really seem like an issue.

He's very young, age 19, and so he has the common teenager problems of angst and hormones. But on top of that, he has some mental disorders, depression at the very least, bipolar disorder too.

How can i fix this broken kid?

As others have explained, you can't. You didn't break this toy, nor can you expect an out-of-control 19-year-old boy (because that's what he is) to be controllable.
In fact, your sub could be 40 years old and be acting out in a similar fashion. But, chances are, a 40-year-old has matured sufficiently to have lived on his own before moving right in with you after just a month or so. Your sub has the added handicap of lacking the fuller spectrum of having gained life experience, a lot of which you will never be able to provide him, the most significant of which is a mature sense of identity.


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ORIGINAL: Oneechan
Does anyone have any experience dealing with mental health issues in D/s relationships?

This isn't limited to submissives only. There are already too many damaged people seeking to work out their mental health issues via a D/s relationship dynamic. Emotionally unstable persons have no business engaging in BDSM because they are unable to make sound judgment calls and can be a danger to themselves and to their play partners.

What I see scrawled upon the wall is CO-DEPENDENCY. D/s aside, I think you need to examine your own motives in why you are ignoring all the warning signs to perpetuate a co-dependent relationship. What are you getting out of it, and is what you're getting out of it psychologically healthy for you?

It helps for your compass to point to the True North position of self-empowerment for both partners. I actually see you giving your power away to your sub, rather than the other way around, and he isn't equipped with the right tools or coping mechanisms necessary to attain self-empowerment for himself.

Please take a moment to read about the Dunning-Kruger effect, a cognitive bias. A friend and I were discussing this just the other day, so it's fresh on my mind. While the Imposter Syndrome (an illusory superiority complex, like with Supremacist thinking) is more well-known, the flipside of this condition can be called "the anosognosia of everyday life":


Anosognosia is a deficit of self-awareness, a condition in which a person who suffers a certain disability seems unaware of the existence of his or her disability.

Both anosognosia and denial [a psychological defense mechanism] are almost always connected with damage in the right hemisphere of the brain.

Anosognosia can be selective in that an affected person with multiple impairments may seem unaware of only one handicap, while appearing to be fully aware of any others.

Those diagnosed with dementia of the Alzheimer's type, often display this lack of awareness and insist that nothing is wrong with them.
The term 'anosognosia' is occasionally used to describe the lack of insight shown by some people who suffer from anorexia nervosa. They do not seem to recognize that they suffer from a mental illness.

E. Fuller Torrey, a psychiatrist and schizophrenia researcher, has stated that among those with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, anosognosia is the most prevalent reason for not taking medications.


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. . . i guess i'm taking on a motherly role here, and he views me as such. His doesn't get along well with his own family, an alcoholic, violent father notably. i'm not sure about his mother, but he hates her,

The first question that comes to mind here is whether you are both consensually entering into a MommyDomme/t[een]b[oy] dynamic? If so, then he has to be willing to accept your authority ALL of the time, but in his present unstable condition, you have to ask yourself, is he even in his right mind to give fully informed consent? He isn't, and your hand is being forced. Just because you feel he is not manipulating you on a conscious level and can't help himself, does not make this enabling situation fine and dandy. You need to step up as the more mature, responsible (Dominant) partner and issue a non-negotiable policy of Zero Tolerance. Hard Limit Zone. Or he has to go, no excuses, nothing.

The second issue has to do with a general policy (your choice) of not getting involved with any man who hates or disrespects his mother. This is a (vanilla) Hard Limit for me, personally. Such a man not only has big-time mommy issues, but will blame all women for his problems. Next, he will play the victim card and start blaming you for enabling him, as if he was a passive bystander and not the instigator.


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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 12:29:57 PM   
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Let me ask you something: would you be asking if he might outgrow or otherwise spontaneously recover if he had Type I Diabetes?


Maybe
I grew out of eczema as a child, conditions do spontaneously resolve

Aren't teenagers generally more susceptible to mental health issues though? i don't think it was unreasonable to ask

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/22/2015 2:03:09 PM   
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Fair enough.

Cognitive behavioral therapy will help him to deal with having bipolar disorder. Learning the changes in his thinking and learning he has a choice in how he responds to things.
But all of that is difficult when you are a teenager.

Neither medication nor therapy are a magic panacea.
But therapy plus medication have a better chance at giving him a chance at a happy and productive life.

You came here because you genuinely didn't know what you were up against.

Maybe in your country there is a way of adding you so that his doctors and therapists would be willing to discuss things with you.
We can do that here. [My] Master is always added to all my providers via a waiver to the confidentiality clause.

You came here for information, but the best way for you to get that would be to talk to his doctors and therapist.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 12:34:08 AM   
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There is absolutely no chance of this spontaneously resolving itself. If he remains unwilling to take his medication and pursue counseling, he has no chance of living a normal life. He will just continuously repeat the cycle.

It's not going to get any better unless he's willing to put the effort into his own care.


I am just wondering though, this is usually quite frustrating, but what if you are dealing with someone whom you care alot about that is in this situation, not willing to help himself or herself? As someone who cares alot about them, is the best thing just to abandon them and leave them on their own? I mean, is there anything we can do? In your professional practice, there must have been sooo many of these super duper difficult cases. And the ones suffering the most is also the ones who love them most. What do you usually tell them?

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 12:37:40 AM   
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Maybe
I grew out of eczema as a child, conditions do spontaneously resolve

Aren't teenagers generally more susceptible to mental health issues though? i don't think it was unreasonable to ask


In my personal experience, it seems like many who have mental health issues like this, can take years, some even 10 to 20 years, IF they are interested in seeking treatment, to even figure out the right combination of meds that can help them stablise, and they gotta literally stay on it for life.
This isn't eczema. This is something alot more difficult to treat. As I feel current science or medical advancement is still not there yet, all their medication only has 50% success rate. Not 100%. It's not like taking a cough syrup and you stop coughing. Like there are certain medication for certain illness, that you know 100% it would heal the problem. With mental problems, it's often not the case.

I'm actually quite familiar with eczema and steroids usually works miracle, although it's harmful to you. Like there is actually a drug that just makes it disappear. Mental health, doesn't seem to work the same way.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 12:59:26 AM   
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Hey there,

So I've read the thread, with very mixed feelings.

While I cannot claim to have any insight at all, I can't help wondering whether you've given proper consideration to the possibility that your sub might just be a total asshat?

People with anger issues often try to blame other things, when the reality is simply that they're nasty and unpleasant people. Now sure, you could try to rescue him but yanno... You're young, you're hot, you come over as pretty smart... plenty more fish in the sea.

Now, I'm very probably wrong, and it could be that this young boy has genuine mental health issues, but even then you need to really decide for yourself how much you're willing to do (and put up with) in order to help this fellah on his journey. While you may feel a degree of responsibility, I for one wouldn't judge you for a nano-second if you decided that the compromises you would have to make were simply too much.
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I do hope it works out, but my casual and non-medically trained sense of the thing is that there are way too many red flags here.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 1:01:44 AM   
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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 3:14:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Let me ask you something: would you be asking if he might outgrow or otherwise spontaneously recover if he had Type I Diabetes?


Maybe
I grew out of eczema as a child, conditions do spontaneously resolve

Aren't teenagers generally more susceptible to mental health issues though? i don't think it was unreasonable to ask




A teenage depression is something most teens grow out of (though not all) and it's more or less caused by the hormones adjusting, however if you are dealing with bi-polar and a full fledged depression, that's usually caused by a chemical imbalance and the causes are often genetic, you don't grow out of it, the longer you leave it untreated the worse it gets because the balance shifts more and more.
Imagine a pond in a park or an aquarium, you get algae - it's not going to right itself because the chemical balance is off, you have to intervene before it is completely toxic.

I can give you a personal example, I have an auto-immune issue with my thyroid, as long as I get the right medication, I'm fine, I'm right as rain, would I stop my medication, I'd get a ton of other issues, including depression to the point of falling into a black hole, it's not going to right itself, I have to keep the balance artificially with adding the thyroid hormone every day for the rest of my life. To make sure that the medication has the best effect (the condition comes with an absorption problem) I also have to keep certain vitamin and mineral levels at the optimum range, keep to a very disciplined diet and exercise regime.

It's a pain in the neck but hey, it helps, so I do it.

Maybe you can help him to understand that he needs to work with the doctors to help himself, if he's not working with them, they have to see a certain amount of patients every day, so somebody who is fighting them and taking more time and they aren't getting anywhere (and they can't make him), yes, they will drop him as he'd take up the space of others who genuinely want help and can be helped, because they are co-operating.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 4:32:30 AM   
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I am just wondering though, this is usually quite frustrating, but what if you are dealing with someone whom you care alot about that is in this situation, not willing to help himself or herself? As someone who cares alot about them, is the best thing just to abandon them and leave them on their own? I mean, is there anything we can do? In your professional practice, there must have been sooo many of these super duper difficult cases. And the ones suffering the most is also the ones who love them most. What do you usually tell them?

This wasn't directed at me but I'm going for it anyway.

The not willing to help himself is no different than him being chained at the waist to an anchor. By not taking the proper medication and working with therapy, the guy is basically throwing himself into deep water while being weighted down. The OP doesn't have the ability to take the chain off of him. Only he can do that. By holding onto the person, the OP is dragged under the water, too. Is she supposed to hold on so the other person can taker her under with him or should she let go so she can swim to the surface and breathe? He's allowing himself to drown. Should she drown, too?



OP, I really hope you are listening to some of these other posters. Bi-polar isn't a diagnosis that professionals (well, competent ones, anyway) just throw out there because of normal teenage issues that a person grows out of. He wouldn't be growing out of a heart defect or a disease with another internal organ. Comparing it to eczema is a bit naive on your part.

There is so much that I agree with the above posters about that I'd be quoting darn near everything they said. You ask for folks who have experience in the matter. Much of what they had to say is what I would have told you, myself.



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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 5:45:34 AM   
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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 9:20:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
There is absolutely no chance of this spontaneously resolving itself. If he remains unwilling to take his medication and pursue counseling, he has no chance of living a normal life. He will just continuously repeat the cycle.

It's not going to get any better unless he's willing to put the effort into his own care.


I am just wondering though, this is usually quite frustrating, but what if you are dealing with someone whom you care alot about that is in this situation, not willing to help himself or herself? As someone who cares alot about them, is the best thing just to abandon them and leave them on their own? I mean, is there anything we can do? In your professional practice, there must have been sooo many of these super duper difficult cases. And the ones suffering the most is also the ones who love them most. What do you usually tell them?



As a family member, you can apply for conservatorship from the courts. you'd have to prove that they're a danger to themselves of someone else. Essentially, this means that the patient will be put into a care facility and be given medication, whether he wants it or not.

What usually ends up happening is that the loved ones end up going through hell. They try to convince the patient to take care of themselves, they go through endless repetitive cycles and eventually cut ties to save themselves.

In this particular case, the OP says that his father is an alcoholic, he hates his mother and his older sister blocked her on Facebook. You have to remember that they've been subjected to his behavior for years, most likely from childhood. I'd also question the statement that the father is an alcoholic, because those suffering from unmedicated bi-polar tend to be paranoid and make accusations.

I can also guarantee that the violent episode described by the OP was not the first time that he has behaved that way. Bi-polar usually also comes hand in hand with an addictive personality. One of the primary traits of an addictive personality is that they think everything is about them, even if it isn't.

So, to answer your question: unless you're willing to get a conservatorship and have them committed against their will....you, as a loved one, are just along for the ride and that ride is being driven by an erratic driver.

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OP, I really hope you are listening to some of these other posters. Bi-polar isn't a diagnosis that professionals (well, competent ones, anyway) just throw out there because of normal teenage issues that a person grows out of. He wouldn't be growing out of a heart defect or a disease with another internal organ. Comparing it to eczema is a bit naive on your part.


Bi-polar is a serious chemical imbalance. There is no known cure, the best you can hope for is control. It's not going to just go *poof* one day.

Even comparing it to clinical depression would be naive.

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RE: Help me with my depressive sub - 11/23/2015 9:32:38 AM   
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In this particular case, the OP says that his father is an alcoholic, he hates his mother and his older sister blocked her on Facebook. You have to remember that they've been subjected to his behavior for years, most likely from childhood. I'd also question the statement that the father is an alcoholic, because those suffering from unmedicated bi-polar tend to be paranoid and make accusations.



But bipolar tends to be genetic, I'm thinking that the father might also be bipolar and trying to "self-medicate" with booze, as you mentionedm bipolar and substance abuse tend to go hand in hand...

Unfortunately it also often gets worse and worse with each new generation, especially if it comes from both sides.

I'm just guessing here, like everybody else, since we don't know the guy or his family, but it could be imaginable that he inherited it from his dad and the situation with 2 people with the disorder in the family has exhausted the family members completely and they are lacking the energy to deal with it anymore. There's only so much somebody can deal with.

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