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CreativeDominant -> RE: 3 dead 8 injured at PP In Colorado springs (11/29/2015 6:20:58 PM)
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
So...putting aside your typical wall of text, your basic idea is this: gun owners should show that they can be trusted by DISREGARDING the words of the founding fathers and trust the government to do what's right.
If you....ACTUALLY....read what I stated, you would have known that was not true. Since you didn't bother to inform yourself of what was stated; I can see how you would arrive at your ding-bat understanding....
The founding fathers warned of a healthy level of distrust. Conservatives have a paranoid schizophrenic level of distrust. How do I know this? Jade Helm 15 over the summer. The nation got to watch as conservatives from the stupid to the 'responsible with power' showed the nation they not only didn't trust the US Government OR the US Miliary; but accused them of all sorts of completely insane bullshit.
BASED ON NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE!
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Tell me, Joether...where in the Constitution does it say that the government is allowed to set up laws out of a BASIC distrust of citizens? Especially when the VAST majority of citizens follow the laws already in place governing their rights.
What composes the bulk of the US Government? Try hard to engage that pea-size brain of yours....
US CITIZENS! That's right, your fellow Americans! Your accusing your fellow Americans of wrong doing without any evidence to support yourself. Why should they trust you?
The vast majority of US Citizens no....SHIT...about their rights. Gallup Post conducted a poll to find how many of the five parts of the 1st amendment people knew existed. 92% could not rattle off more than two parts. 4% could name three parts. 3.5% could state four. I was in the 0.5% that could name all five parts. What does this tell me? That 11,000+ US Citizens do not know shit about their rights. How about the 3rd amendment? Know what that one covers? How about the 7th? Do you have a right to trial by jury under the 8th amendment? Most people would guess; they got a 50/50 chance. How much in dollar damage can be substandard in a court before your allowed a jury? Its $20. How many Americans would answer $20? Pretty small percentage!
If not for all the police shows on TV and cable, most Americans would not know they have a Miranda Rights. If you asked them were that concept comes up in US History, they couldn't tell you! What good is saying "I have rights", if you don't have a fucking clue what they are and aren't?
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Here's a problem you need to get onto, Joether...cell phones.
You have no idea....
But we are not talking about communications problems, but firearms. Try to stay on topic here. As much as what you suggest is interesting, we both would get...way off...topic. I'm all in favor of banning texting while driving. In fact, give police the allowance to check the local tower to see if messages were being posted during the time the officer was observing them breaking the law. Yes, there would have to be exceptions to the law here and there.
I've seen conservatives whom are totally against illegal immigrants, then get in their cars and travel 20 miles over the posted limit. How do I or anyone else take them seriously when they say "those people should respect our laws" when they dont?
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
Oddly enough, none of these texting deaths were motivated by political causes. They were motivated by stupidity and arrogance. And call me crazy but the numbers of these deaths and the everyday happenstance of them make me far more fearful of other drivers on the road than I am of going to the movies or a mall or my grandchildren's school.
Yet, there is an ever growing population of conservatives whom feel they need to carry their guns everywhere because they are afraid of something bad happening to them. To which I counter: Why are they not ALSO wearing NBC suits from head to foot? They are plenty more likely to pick up the flu bug that could kill them, then getting shot out. If safety is their paramount reason for a gun, they would be wearing an NBC suit (that's Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Warfare). Since they aren't, why do they need the carry the gun around? Yeah, I understand they feel they have a right to carry one. But there is a big difference between having a right and being a dick about it towards society.
Yeah, while a bunch of 2nd amendment morons were outside a elementary school, the school was on lock down. Yes, the police were talking to these morons whom believed they had a 2nd amendment right to be dickheads. Meanwhile those kids are FEARFUL of their lives! So rather then allowing the children to learn in peace and quite; a bunch of morons with guns need to push their silly beliefs in some sort of stupid and immature 'test of will' with the local police department. How many of those parents do you think give a shit about those morons, their guns, and their silly belief system? Given a choice between their children's safety and those morons and their 'rights'; which way do you think those parents will go?
You know, Joether...I'm beginning to understand why it is that you never join the chorus when someone from the right brings some loony shut from the left onto the board...as I have...and the chorus starts up "you're accusing all the left", even when you're not. You don't join the chorus because you're one of those from the left who sees the right as a monolithic unit...one thought, one way of seeing things, one common belief about everything, one behavior.
You're as wrong about that as you are the rest of your nonsense.
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