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crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 1:40:47 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
According to you if we don't dress in a way that hides our shape, we are flaunting our sexuality
C'mon. Don't twist my words into what they're not.
I'm very well aware of your stated lack of ability to find clothes that "fit the occasion" that don't also, at the very same time, accentuate your admittedly lovely figure.
When you have "my" body, you'll find PLENTY of clothes that hide your true shape, just as I have.
When you have the body of a matronly octogenarian, again, you'll find plenty of clothes that hide your true shape, just as all octogenarians have.
I don't buy the excuse that you can't find clothes that don't "hide" your true shape.
I do buy the excuse that you WANT to show your body off, but I don't think you really truly understand that excuse yourself.
When you WANT to hide the inherent sexuality of your shape, you'll have absolutely no problem doing so.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
and use it as a tool, for me a flirt is just that, you know, if a guy smiles at me, I usually smile back and then walk on, it doesn't mean I am asking him to follow me around, and most don't, all it means is, he gave me a smile, which is always nice, I gave him a smile back, which hopefully made his day a bit better, I consider that polite human interaction, like holding the door for the person behind me, asking somebody if I can help if they fell down or dropped their shopping.
Fair enough.
I'm well known for conversing with anyone, at the checkout counter, waiting at a bus stop as I pass by, riding their bicycle on the street, walking past me on the road, handling my order at a restaurant, etc., and in almost none of those cases (unless she's dressed as a slut!) am I "flirting" with her.
Ah, notice what I just said.
If she's dressed as a slut, then she will get my attention. I'll smile more. I'll tip more. I'll be nicer. I'll have an ulterior motive. I'll want more. And, I'll remember (far) more about her than if she wasn't dressed as a slut.
And, I'm no different in that regard, from any other dog, er, um, I mean man.
Women know this.
Women are inherently not as stupid as they sound when they say otherwise.
Even "traditional" women aren't that stupid.
There is a reason the thing showing in those dirndls, is the teats (all teat, nothing but teat).
And, it's not "tradition".
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
You know how often a guy will offer me a seat on a train, yet he won't offer the seat to the frumpy and stressed out mom with a kid and her shopping, or the lady who's in her 50's, that is what I consider rude and that also is sexism
Yup.
Bearing in mind I respond linearly, and in a serial fashion you can see that I, just above, already agreed with you.
Of course, I'm Italian. And, I have lots of sisters. And an Italian mother.
So, I might very well offer my seat to the frumpy stressed out mom, but, I'll also, at the very same time, try to push some creeepy leering guy out of his seat in order to offer the slut, um, I mean the sexily-dressed woman, a seat.
I'm a guy. We're no more complicated than your dogs.
Slightly more complicated than your sheep.
And, nothing even remotely as complex as you are.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
, no better than the leering and jeering, but please do make an argument how women are at fault for that too, because apparently we are at fault for everything else.
Men are at fault for plenty of things.
I mean, how many times have you seen marauding bands of young women terrorizing the town?
How many women rape men, versus how many men rape women?
How many men lie to women about their marital status versus how many women do the same?
How many men cheat on their wives (in droves, by the way) versus the other way around?
How many men die doing stupid things, versus women doing stupid dangerous things.
Men are at fault for many things.
But, in this discussion, since leering was never well defined, I'm assuming there are three types:
1. Noticing
2. Looking
3. Leering
And, I'm assuming women here haven't adequately defined the difference between the three.
And, worse yet, the women here don't even REALIZE they're the CAUSE of most of the #1 and #2, and that they INVITE #1 and #2 (albeit we hear many excuses to the contrary that don't jive with facts).
Now, no woman invites #3, but, the fine line of distinction rears its ugly head up when you try to dilineate between #2 and #3.
So, my premise is that EVERYTHING women do, is to obtain #2; yet, everything they SAY is to discourage #3.
Hence, it is my premise, that women make absolutely no logical sense, because what they decry, is exactly what they desire, the only difference being in "CONDITIONS" that they unilaterally impose, which they have absolutely no control over (hence, the predictable rant in the original post).
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I'm not using my sexuality as a tool to get a seat (I tend to have a reservation anyway but sometimes I gave up my seat for somebody who was older or seemed to be more in need to sit down),
Aw, C'mon.
I don't need to go down the fact that it's EASIER to get freebies being a woman than being a man.
Women cultivate this. If men have a fault, it's that they are only too happy to oblige.
I, myself, log into car forums as a woman simply because, at least in a car forum, being a woman instantly puts me worlds above all but the most accomplished men.
I get help like you can't believe (privately, if you like, I'll show you exactly who I am on the car and motorcycle forums). I have to "cultivate" my female sexuality though. I have to stroke male egos. I have to act a bit more stupid than I really am (heh heh ... that should make some of you happy). But, I get OFFERED freebies all the time (even from forum sponsors. I can't count the number of sponsors who have offered me free parts, if I only talk about them in the forums). I also have male profiles, who get no such offers. Nobody ever mailed the male me their 1040 PDF (like one guy did) because I made believe I was poor and didn't have the money for a mechanic). He wanted to marry me. Sight unseen. All because I knew 1/100th of what the guys knew, but, I simply had a (presumed) pussy and tits.
Point is, women use their sex to get attention from men, and I use women's sex to get things from men too!
It's the same game we're playing (only I'm honest with you about it).
EDIT: Scammers are also on to this males-will-pay-for-sluts phenomenon, in case nobody noticed.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I don't even want a seat that is offered to me by a sexist asshole who thinks it's a courteous gesture that will impress me, I tend to wait until asshole stood up, then tap momsy or an elderly person on the shoulder and tell them that the nice gent just gave up the seat for them. A lot of what you might perceive as women offering their sexuality is men projecting, thinking if they do something stupid it will impress the woman. It usually doesn't work this way.
Fair enough.
I can't deny that, since women can never be trusted to say what they really mean, that I have been left holding strings that I had to put together to figure out what they really wanted.
In a way, that's one reason I absolutely love to worship a strong Dominant Woman who will just tell me to shut up and do what she says.
At least that ONE WOMAN in the entire world actually says what she wants and I don't have to interpret if it's really what she means.
(And, when/if I find a woman who is both my mental superior and also just such a demanding self-infatuated dominant who isn't just after my "things", I will be in heaven - yet - I haven't found that combination yet.)
Being Aspergers and probably a few other things, I can never figure out women, because they, themselves, deceive themselves more than I could ever deceive them all by myself.
Heh heh ... I'm still smiling about your excuse that the dirndls are "traditional", hence, the woman isn't a slut because she's simply wearing it because tradition forced her to wear it, wholly and completely against her will - or - perhaps - she didn't look in the mirror that morning when she put it on?
Women even deceive themselves about the myriad "wardrobe malfunctions" that are designed into their clothes, seemingly wholly unaware of the flaws of a strapless gown, yet, just as seemingly perceptive about the myriad quirks of current fashion.
Women also deceive themselves about being whores. If they're a whore on Halloween or at the office party or at Mardi Gras, then they are a whore. This excuse of it being "traditional" only holds water if she, herself, is actively trying to delude herself.
I mean, if I was a convicted felon, would you think I would try to convince myself that I'm not?
How would I do that?
Only women can accomplish such odious self delusion.
The original rant is from a woman who, like many before her and certainly many after her, doesn't realize that what she wants from men is #2 above but not #3 above, yet, she has absolutely no control of the border between #2 and #3, and, worse yet, she can't even define it such that everyone would agree on that border.
She is getting EXACTLY what she asked for, yet, when she gets too much of it, she complains and blames the dogs, er, um, I mean men for doing exactly what she loves most about men, but just a bit too much of it for her tastes.
That she can't CONTROL these men, is what irks her the most.
And, I understand that feeling.
I can't stop men from sending my female car profile their tax returns either or from offering me free parts.
If I showed you the profile I cultivated on the car forums, you'll see that if I'm gone for just a week, men are STALKING me (literally), even to the point of publicly asking the forum moderators to send me emails (which they did!) asking if I'm OK. (heh heh ... they don't know the beauty of proxies to hide my real IP address!).
I get NONE of that attention, in my male profiles on that very same car forum.
Notice. I want #2 (which is attention from males who have something to offer) but I don't want #3 (which is too much attention from males who have nothing to offer me).
I'm a woman!
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